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The Brits promised Palestinians they'd give them back Palestine for their help in WWII.
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Sorry but you're making stuff up as usual.

They promised Hussein Ibn Ali Arab independence; Ibn Ali was not Palestinian. And the Brits did give his family independent Arab states by handing his kids Jordan, Syria, and Iraq even though they weren't indigenous to any of those place. His family and clan still rule Jordan in what is truly like apartheid era SA as the small minority of foreign Hashemites rule over the indigenous population.

As I said, the Brits gave the vast majority of the pre-WWI Ottoman lands to independent Arab states. Saud got 2.1 million km^2. The Hashemites got half a million in Iraq, 200,000 in Syria, 100,000 in Jordan plus they gave another million or two to other Arab states like Yemen, Oman, and (eventually) Egypt.

But you're upset that Brits proposed that out of the 5.5 million km^2 in the Arab Middle East, 0.2 of that land in recognized the 400,000 Jews in Palestine and the million Jews elsewhere in those lands.

The Brits made deals with the Hashemites, Jews, and the French and let down each side somewhat but there is no validity to your claims that Brits promised an independent Palestine. You should really try getting your history from somewhere other than twitter.
 
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You and shack did right here, rich.
Every accusation is a confession.

You've been cheering for months and months for more Palis to die for PR purposes. You want to demonize Israel and have them charged with genocide. The more Palis that die the easier you feel it will be to make your case.

You cheering for more death is a perfectly logical argument. After all, you said yourself that they are only "lesser humans".
 

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Israel is the homeland of Judaism. Not the Europeans who happened to be Jews. ...
This has to be the most moronic argument used by the ignorant and the outright racists. Why is it you think that Judaism is the only religion that only applies to people descended from the original adherents? Are the only true Muslims the descendants of Muhammad's followers? Palestinians are generally not in Muhammad's family tree so by your logic, Muslim shave no right to be there. Are the only true Christians descendants of the disciples? That would make most Christians fake. I have family that despite ancestry coming exclusively from the British Isles see Bethlehem and Jerusalem as holy places. Hinduism originated in the Indus Valley. Does that make Hindus from outside that area not deserving of being considered dharma?

And for what's it's worth, there are clear genetic descent showing some Ashkenazi Jews having roots in Israel and the middle east.


Of course in your hypocritical wanderings, you ignore the point I clearly made. You've agreed with me that a way forward respecting the rights of all the people there is far more important than what happened 100 or 1000 years ago but you still insist on making bullshit claims.
 
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You're deflecting.

If the UN partition resolution is the only thing that makes Israel a legitimate state then it also made Palestine a legitimate state.
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It does. You and the Palestinian leadership just need to accept that both have a right to exist instead of having their people fight to their death to prevent Jews from being there. That rejection by Arabs leaders has been the only thing preventing a Palestinian state since 1937.

And sorry but what makes Israel legitimate is 10 million Israelis living there who want to continue being Israelis, just like the 5 million Palestinians and the refugee descendants trapped in camps makes a Palestinian state legitimate.
 
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This has to be the most moronic argument used by the ignorant and the outright racists. Why is it you think that Judaism is the only religion that only applies to people descended from the original adherents?
Going by your assertions, given Israel is the birthplace of Christianity, it would be justified for me as a Catholic, to call Israel my ancestral homeland. And based on that assertion all the Christians of the world can just waltz into Israel and settle down there, and evict all the Jews in Israel who already live there, genocide them, ethnically cleanse them and take the country for themselves.

Genetic connections mean absolutely nothing. Here is a map of the South Asian genetic makeup. So let us get India to go conquer all those nations from Africa to Europe to South East Asia. Heck look at that, Indians share DNA with certain Mizrahi Jews. So yeah, let me call Israel my homeland too. Lemme also call Modi, so he can invade day after tomorrow.

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No. Your religion or your genetics do not define your homeland. That is a moronic assertion. Where you are born, and where you acquired citizenship via naturalization (meaning the natives of a different land other than your country of birth, ALLOW you to come live with them as citizen) is what defines your homeland and no amount of religious mumbo jumbo will change that.
 
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Sorry but you're making stuff up as usual.

They promised Hussein Ibn Ali Arab independence; Ibn Ali was not Palestinian. And the Brits did give his family independent Arab states by handing his kids Jordan, Syria, and Iraq even though they weren't indigenous to any of those place. His family and clan still rule Jordan in what is truly like apartheid era SA as the small minority of foreign Hashemites rule over the indigenous population.

As I said, the Brits gave the vast majority of the pre-WWI Ottoman lands to independent Arab states. Saud got 2.1 million km^2. The Hashemites got half a million in Iraq, 200,000 in Syria, 100,000 in Jordan plus they gave another million or two to other Arab states like Yemen, Oman, and (eventually) Egypt.

But you're upset that Brits proposed that out of the 5.5 million km^2 in the Arab Middle East, 0.2 of that land in recognized the 400,000 Jews in Palestine and the million Jews elsewhere in those lands.

The Brits made deals with the Hashemites, Jews, and the French and let down each side somewhat but there is no validity to your claims that Brits promised an independent Palestine. You should really try getting your history from somewhere other than twitter.
The brits broke a deal they made with Palestinians then gave foreigners 7% of the population 50% of the land and were surprised the indigenous people weren't happy.

 
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Wow, the classic anti-semitism of claiming Jews are all Israelis. What a surprise.

And pathetic that though you rightly point out that racism from pro-Palestinian activists is cherry-picking, you happily promote cherry-picked videos of some jews.
Stop with the tropes.
That was a post about aggressive zionists attacking protesters.
Only an antisemite would say that is about all Jews.

End the occupation.
Honour the Right of Return.
Free Palestine

 

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The brits broke a deal they made with Palestinians ...
So I clearly lay out the truth but you don't like it so you just cry and plug your ears.

The Brits did make an offer to the Palestinians in 1937 and 1948 but the Palestinians said they didn't want it if it meant Jews could live near them. And the Brits gave 0.2% of the former ottoman Empire to Jews who were almost 2% of that Ottoman population.
 
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Going by your assertions, given Israel is the birthplace of Christianity, it would be justified for me as a Catholic, to call Israel my ancestral homeland.
Many Christians do. That's why there are pilgrimages to Bethlehem and Jerusalem.





No. Your religion or your genetics do not define your homeland. That is a moronic assertion....
The moronic part is I've repeatedly said that an historic religious connection means nothing. You claim to agree with me that what matters is the people living there now but then you realize that would mean that Israelis would have rights so you simply ignore what I said and go back to your moronic nonsense.

And as I've repeatedly pointed out, by the standards you apply to Jews, neither you nor I have any right to be in Canada.
 

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Many Christians do. That's why there are pilgrimages to Bethlehem and Jerusalem.

The moronic part is I've repeatedly said that an historic religious connection means nothing. You claim to agree with me that what matters is the people living there now but then you realize that would mean that Israelis would have rights so you simply ignore what I said and go back to your moronic nonsense.

And as I've repeatedly pointed out, by the standards you apply to Jews, neither you nor I have any right to be in Canada.
I am not talking about pilgrimage. I am talking about flat out taking the country for Christians to oust Israel and create a new Christian land. That would be just as justified as the premise of establishing a Jewish state because it is the ancestral homeland of the Jews.

I have repeatedly said that I reject this premise of Israel, along with the narratives and the reasons that were used to establish Israel, narratives and reasons that Israelis repeat even to this day. If you agree with me, then you should be open about saying that you reject the premise of Israel as well.

I have also repeatedly said that Israel by virtue of time, is now a legitimate state, regardless of how it was formed. But it is the only legitimate state that is brutalizing its indigeneous people. Unlike Canada and the US, which have established a 'one state' solution.
 
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