Those numbers dont help your case canada-man, they only hurt it because Blacks represent about 10 to 15% of the total US population.
So per capita the numbers of hate crimes committed by blacks are exactly the same as ones committed by Whites
Is Racism and Conservatism Hard Wired?
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So per capita the numbers of hate crimes committed by blacks are exactly the same as ones committed by Whites
"clears throat"
In 2009, the racial breakdown of the 6,225 known hate crime offenders was as follows:
* 62.4 percent were white.
whites are largest numbers of hate crime offenders
Right, so if the total US population is about 60 to 70% white, and the total black population of the US is only 10 to 15% it would make those numbers per capita about even. Do you not understand this, smartypants??!
If anything the black total at 18.5% is higher than the percentage of blacks in the US population, so it makes your case worse, not better
I'm not an apologist for anyone, if I'm on a jury and some white kid beat up a black kid because of his race, I'm gonna send that little white punk to prison.
But the numbers dont lie, there's just as many black racists as there are whitey racists
nope blacks which are 12-13% of the U.S population are 70% of racist hate crime victims
while whites which are 70% of the population are 16.5% of hate crime victims
Note that there is a subtle difference between "racial discrimination" and "racism". Usually the two go hand in hand, people are discriminated based on race for racist reasons. It is not necessarily the case though. For a simple example, ordering additional tests to check for certain kinds of heart disease based on the fact that the patient is South-East Asian. It's racial discrimination, but it's hardly racist! You're discriminating based on race in that case in order to better the health of your patient by checking for disease they're likely at high risk of having.
So plainly it is possible to divide people according to their skin colour and ethnicity and not be racist. Let's turn to affirmative action. Is it one of those policies that discriminates based on race, but is not racist? Let's set aside for a moment the question of whether this legislation was ACTUALLY required in Ontario, and look at the question in theory. Is it plausible, at least in theory, that there are situations where racism is so pervasive that you have to discriminate based on race and set quotas in order to resist it?
Plainly yes.
Was Ontario in such a situation at the time that policy was enacted? That's much more debatable, but I think probably so. Are we still in that situation? I don't think we are any longer, honestly. At least not in the major cosmopolitan areas like Toronto. Perhaps in smaller towns it is still the case. When I look around my workplaces, and the workplaces of major companies that I deal with, I see quite a healthy racial diversity now. I really did not see that 25 years ago.
Nah, I don't feel like playing this game. There seem to be a few posters in the Politics forum, usually people with left-of-centre views, who are constantly challenging others to produce evidence. Many times, I've accepted the challenge, produced the evidence, and it never seems to have any effect -- often, the people who issued the challenge simply change the subject.
The details of the Rae government's Employment Equity Act from 1993 were well documented:
http://epress.anu.edu.au/agenda/002/04/2-4-A-6.pdf.
Employers were required to follow a number of steps, including setting numerical goals and timetables for the hiring and promotion of people from designated groups -- in other words, quotas.
To fulfil the quotas, the only standard that people being hired and promoted had to meet was to be from the designated groups.
The legal requirement to meet targets (quotas) went well beyond ensuring that people receive "favourable consideration."
the trouble wit bigots is they seldom can hide for long
Take the original poster for instance.
Feel free to discuss this amongst yourselves
Take the original poster for instance.
Feel free to discuss this amongst yourselves
And also the largest number in the north american population.
Racists exist in all races. I could see an argument that some cultures are more racist than others but I would bet my strip club money on it only being that some cultures are more vocal in their racism but I would put it that the less racist seeming cultures only seem that way because they are less obvious about it.
I was following along perfectly until you made this claim. This just seems to be your opinion, with no basis in fact. Fundamentally by stating this, though, you are accepting the notion that quotas are sometimes necessary--you're just quibbling over how much.
Some cultures have been historically more insular and cut off from the outside world than others. I think that leads to a higher level of xenophobia in such places--which can seem like racism, and is often just as bad or worse, but is really a bit different, in that it has more to do with (willfull?) ignorance than with hatred. I think the effects of that sort of isolation linger on for a few generations after the country opens up.
China comes to mind here.
It is very much a political thread, and mods should not move it just because of that.Is this another thinly veiled political thread that the mods should move out of the lounge?
