Police arrest suspect in York University student murder

[hinz]

i agree with locomotil..some asian chick must have really taken you for a ride...

ROFLMAO, Nope. The thought and sight of unshaven, hairy pussies makes me puke but different stroke for different folks.

That being said , this is funny. No?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Does a "killer" have to make any sense?

Maybe the killer "gets off" strictly on the nudity or the kill?
The killer may've been distracted or thought he was discovered and left before he can do the deed?
Killer couldn't perform under-pressure?

Looks like our resident pet detective has solved the mystery

 

[Mervyn]

Does a "killer" have to make any sense?

Maybe the killer "gets off" strictly on the nudity or the kill?
The killer may've been distracted or thought he was discovered and left before he can do the deed?
Killer couldn't perform under-pressure?

Another possibility is the killer didn't strip her.

 

[mmouse]

If the guy was charged with manslaughter, I would have guessed he accidentally asphyxiated her as he was trying to rape her then panicked. If the charge is 1st degree murder, it implies to me that he went to her place with the intention of killing her.

I believe they've already done an autopsy which would have ruled out asphyxiation. That's why they're now doing toxicology.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I believe they've already done an autopsy which would have ruled out asphyxiation. That's why they're now doing toxicology

Toxicology?? You mean she might have been poisoned??

Why do I get the feeling this guy has killed before

 

[fuji]

Is Falun Gong an offshoot from Buddhism?

There's what, at most, a few million of them? That's hardly anybody in a country with a population of over a billion people. You'd have been better off pointing out the Uighers in Xianjiang. In that area of the country there plainly are lots who aren't Buddhist, but in the Chinese heartland practically everybody is Buddhist. With the exception of a few tens of million christians and a few million falun gong and probably a few million of other faiths as well... in other words, hardly anybody.

BTW, I am told those Communist party members are among the most superstitious folks over there. Quite an irony when the Cultural Revolution was supposed to dismantle thousand years old "Nonsense" like this. No?

Again... I think you've forgotten about the 6 October 1976 coup. You know, the day they rounded up and arrested the people who led the cultural revolution. The current leaders of China consider the cultural revolution to have been a crime against the Chinese people.

 

[james t kirk]

It does not say that he stripped her from the waist down, it says that she was found nude from the waist down.

Maybe she was just walking around her apt like that? (Hell, when I'm home by myself, I've walked through my placed bare assed. Who cares. I don't do it when I have people over.

The details have not been released. But they appear to have their man very quickly and what I'm very interested in is why. Why did this guy pick this girl and kill her? We humans tend to need those things explained.

 

[pc0mo]

It does not say that he stripped her from the waist down, it says that she was found nude from the waist down.

Maybe she was just walking around her apt like that? (Hell, when I'm home by myself, I've walked through my placed bare assed. Who cares. I don't do it when I have people over.

The details have not been released. But they appear to have their man very quickly and what I'm very interested in is why. Why did this guy pick this girl and kill her? We humans tend to need those things explained.

im with james on this one , should could have just been wearing a oversized tshirt or something . she was talking to her " boyfriend " over seas maybe they were cybering

 

[fuji]

I doubt she was walking around her apartment like that. She answered the door. Had she been naked from the waist down I imagine she would have put on some clothes before answering the door.

We'll have to wait and find out what happened. There are all kinds of explanations. No "obvious" sign of rape doesn't mean there was no rape. Alternately, maybe he intended to rape her but couldn't get it up. We just don't know and won't know until the details come out in court.

 

[5hummer]

Looks like our resident pet detective has solved the mystery

Hey, McDuh, come up with more original insults (instead of stealing from me).

And, while you're at it, admit there is no connection to the Caledon killing (that you so irresponsibly assumed)?

 

[Aardvark154]

And, while you're at it, admit there is no connection to the Caledon killing (that you so irresponsibly assumed)?

How was it irresponsible? It was speculation and he stated it was speculation.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

How was it irresponsible? It was speculation and he stated it was speculation.

The fact I was just speculating seems to be lost on 5Dummer.

Also we dont know yet for sure if he's not connected to the other 2 Caledon murders.
I will concede however that he's probably not though.

Turns out the suspect was "known to police" (READ: he had a criminal record).
He also lived in the same building as the girl, in one of the upstairs rooms

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/978295--webcam-killing-suspect-appears-in-court?bn=1

A Toronto man who appeared in court Thursday on first-degree murder charges lived in the same building as the victim, 23-year-old York University student Qian Liu.

Brian Dickson, a 29-year-old amateur actor and runner who studied geopolitics at York, was remanded in custody until April 26.

Dickson, wearing a white dress shirt and showing no emotion, stood and spoke only to give his name during the two-minute appearance.

He lived in one of several apartments at 27 Aldwinckle Heights near the York campus. Liu lived in the basement.

Toronto police say Dickson “is known” to them, but wouldn’t elaborate. “We have had dealings with him,” Const. Tony Vella said.

A publication ban was imposed on court proceedings.

His Facebook page reveals a square-jawed, clean-cut young man.

A graduate of Riverdale Collegiate in Toronto, Dickson studied geopolitics at York University’s McLaughlin College. He co-founded the York model NATO club, was president of York’s undergraduate Political Science Council and served on their model U.N.

Dickson worked for the Atlantic Council of Canada, a NATO-affiliated foreign policy think tank, from 2008 to 2009. He was an assistant to president Julie Lindhout.

He was involved with Developments in Literacy, which establishes and operated school for disadvantaged children, particularly girls, in Pakistan.

A running instructor and amateur actor, his Facebook page still lists him as a member of The Players Academy.

Justice of the Peace William Danbrook ordered some of the nearly 50 media in the crowded courtroom to leave before the morning hearing started. The story has captured international attention because part of an altercation with the victim in her apartment was seen via webcam by her boyfriend in Beijing.

Police had announced Dickson’s arrest as a plane carrying Liu’s grieving parents touched down Wednesday afternoon.

The exhausted couple was ushered through Pearson airport by Chinese consulate staff, stopping momentarily to address reporters before being ushered out a private exit.

“We are very sad but we would like to take this opportunity to thank . . . everyone, the media, community and Chinese consulate staff,” Jianhui Liu, the victim’s father, said after the 13-hour flight from Beijing. “Thank you, but we are really tired.”

He is research director of Communist Party history at a school that trains party officials and a much-admired lecturer.

His daughter’s body was discovered by two friends and her landlord in her apartment on Friday morning, after they were alerted by Meng Xianchao, the victim’s boyfriend in China, who said he witnessed part of the struggle between the woman and an intruder by webcam the night before.

Liu was found naked from the waist down, police said. There were no obvious signs of trauma.

Police are still awaiting toxicology test results to determine the cause of death.

This week, the Star reported that Liu had been stalked by a man, painted as a rejected suitor in a popular Chinese chatroom. However, police said there is no evidence of “criminal stalking.”

Liu arrived in Canada in September and lived in a house on Haynes Ave. before moving to the Aldwinckle Heights apartment in January.

The victim’s boyfriend in China told CTV News in Beijing of watching a man try to hug Liu before assaulting her.

He said his webcam conversation with his girlfriend was interrupted when Liu heard a knock at the door at about 1 a.m. Friday. A man entered the apartment and wanted an embrace, but grew aggressive when Liu refused. The webcam was then disconnected.

“At that moment my mind went blank and I was cursing him from my webcam, I was so far away I couldn’t reach her. I felt so helpless and I couldn’t calm down until in the end the guy closed the computer,” he told CTV, adding he then contacted Liu’s friends in Canada

 

[5hummer]

The fact I was just speculating seems to be lost on 5Dummer.

Also we dont know yet for sure if he's not connected to the other 2 Caledon murders.
I will concede however that he's probably not though.

McIRRESPONSIBLE
McWRONG

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I'm a huge faggot who likes to bold words

We know

 

[fuji]

Children, behave.

 

[hinz]

There's what, at most, a few million of them? That's hardly anybody in a country with a population of over a billion people. You'd have been better off pointing out the Uighers in Xianjiang. In that area of the country there plainly are lots who aren't Buddhist, but in the Chinese heartland practically everybody is Buddhist. With the exception of a few tens of million christians and a few million falun gong and probably a few million of other faiths as well... in other words, hardly anybody.

LMAO, no different from the mindset of those people believing a few tens of millions lives lost in Korean Wars and subsequent "mismanagement" throughout their history "hardly anybody" in your own words, for a country over a billion people. No?

Doubtful the victim's parents, even the Communist ones would share the same sentiment like you do.

Again... I think you've forgotten about the 6 October 1976 coup. You know, the day they rounded up and arrested the people who led the cultural revolution.

LOL, instigated by this 2nd Mao Wannabe.

That being said, he did live in the ripe old age, unlike the real Mao Wannabe. Dunno whether his ashes were subsequently scattered at sea to make sure nothing left behind, just in case.

The current leaders of China consider the cultural revolution to have been a crime against the Chinese people.

They have vested interest to paint that revolution the worst color when you compare recent event like this. No?

 

[superstar_88]

Anyone clean cut is innocent of all crime?
Genius, pure genius.

 

[fuji]

LMAO, no different from the mindset of those people believing a few tens of millions lives lost in Korean Wars and subsequent "mismanagement" throughout their history "hardly anybody" in your own words, for a country over a billion people. No?

Stop playing the fool. Your examples add up to what, 2% of the Chinese population maybe? If that's what you've got--that 98% of Chinese are what I said, then I'm pretty comfortable saying that 98% is practically everybody.

That being said, he did live in the ripe old age, unlike the real Mao Wannabe.

That's right, because the practice of murderous purges ended with the coup. Ever since the coup China has been a much better run country. Hua was forced out of power, but unlike what would have happened previously, was not subjected to any violence as a result.

Plainly China's not a democracy but since the coup it has been something very different than it was before the coup.

You keep referring to pre-coup events and associating them with the modern Chinese state, which is just idiotic.

They have vested interest to paint that revolution the worst color when you compare recent event like this. No?

You're trying to compare Tiananmen Square to the cultural revolution? Really?

At Tiananmen people who were trying to overthrow the government were put down by force. The Cultural Revolution was inflicted on *everybody* in China. Most of the people who suffered often had nothing to do with politics, no interest in politics, just regular people trying to live their lives. It's fundamentally different when you have people trying to overthrow the government getting killed, and in large numbers, as compared to people trying to overthrow it--violently--being killed.

What ACTUALLY happened at Tiananmen is also bit more complicated than has typically been reported in the media here. Somebody bussed in a bunch of unemployed workers and armed them with clubs, knives, molotov cocktails, and the like. Maybe the CIA? Some other faction in China? The Taiwanese? Who knows. They were capable enough fighters that they managed to kill not a small number of police. Sure, the army over-reacted, but it's not like they went in and opened up on peaceful protesters--they started shooting back when they were attacked, after some soldiers were killed, and no doubt took that too far. By the way I know someone who was there, as a student in the square, and I've spoken with her one-on-one in private. She's of the opinion that the violence was started by protesters who who arrived towards the end, and didn't belong to the student group.

At any rate, however you want to characterize it, it was an attempt to overthrow the state, and it was put down, which is quite different than something like the CR which was inflicted on people who had no gripe with the government, who were just trying to get by.

Yes, in China, if you engage in sedition you're going to get stomped on. It's not a democracy. Don't engage in sedition and you're more or less going to be left to do as you please.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Follow-up on Dickson. Supposedly he was at some bar before he was arrested acting nervous and talking about the murder.

Sounds to me like he's guilty: http://www.torontosun.com/2011/04/21/i-am-going-to-jail-for-life

When he saw Brian Dickson’s picture on the news as being the alleged “WebCam Killer” this Toronto man just about fell off his bar stool.

“I just had a beer with Brian Tuesday night and now he is charged with first-degree murder,” said the man, whose name is also Brian.

“As soon as I saw the picture I said, ‘holy sh..’ I am in shock.”

It was just four days after York University student Qian ‘Necole’ Liu, 23, was found dead — a struggle seen on webcam by her boyfriend in China — that this man said he was sitting with Dickson at the My Bar and Restaurant on Gerrard and Pape and it was “regular bar BS” banter going on between them.

“He even offered to buy me a beer,” he said of the late Tuesday night encounter. Dickson was arrested the next day.

“I remember Brian looking at two crack dealers over in the corner saying, “they are ruining this neighbourhood.”

And then the conversation got strange.

“He said to me, ‘Have you ever been to jail?’ He was asking me if I knew what it was like?” the bar patron said.

“I told him I had once for five days. Then he said, ‘Well I am going to jail for life.’”

He assumed Dickson, 29, who he thought worked as a retail salesman at the Eaton Centre, was just joking around.

“I didn’t know what to think. It was strange but I didn’t draw any conclusions,” said the bar patron who also contacted police.

Raymond, who is the bartender and owner, told me Dickson seemed to be slightly intoxicated but was coherent, respectful and polite.

“I said to Brian (Dickson), ‘Have you been drinking elsewhere’ and he said he had,” said Raymond, adding he hadn’t seen the part-time actor in his bar in “two months”.

Then the conversation switched over to the investigation at York University into the slaying of the Chinese exchange student.

“Raymond said that police had a guy in mind and had looked in his apartment,” the bar patron said.

It was after that, he said, that his bar chum’s demeanour changed from calm to nervous.

“He looked at us and said, ‘Are you guys cops?’” he said.

“He then said, ‘I have had enough of this,’ and then got up and left.”

Dickson paid his bill with cash before he walked out, Raymond said.

It was about 11 p.m. and he had been there for about an hour.

Dickson’s parents’ home on Austin Ave., which police searched Thursday after receiving a warrant and removed a computer, is only about 300 metres south of the bar.

His mom and his dad remained in the home throughout the evening, refusing to take calls. But earlier in the day expressed their horror of the events that had transpired.

They looked shaken and dishevelled.

“It’s a very difficult time,” the father said.

Police sources say this is not the first time they have had dealings with their son who is known to them.

But neither his father or mother, who attended his first court appearance, would answer questions about friends saying only that their son frequented Internet dating sites and was involved in trying to recruit Asian women for a casting company.

“We will not be commenting,” said his father.

But there was plenty of commentary at My Bar and Restaurant Thursday night

 

[Don Draper]

Do forgive me, I tend to confuse sarcasm and humor very easily.

aside from Don Draper, I'm sure most see Asians as normal humans who do right and wrong..just like their white cousins...i mean aren't we all realted (white , black, asian) to one smart monkey family anyways?.

I suppose you'd have to include some clarity in your statement before I know what you're specifically referring to. Particularly, are we to think we can all be 'realted' as in property that can be traded and bought over and over?​