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Trap & Drown?

Should the city cull the raccoon population?

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 86.0%
  • No

    Votes: 7 14.0%

  • Total voters
    50

fuji

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Plainly beating racoons with a shovel is not an acceptable way to control them, and probably the City should take ownership of the raccoon problem so that residents aren't left on their own trying to figure out how to do it.

Shooting at them in a crowded urban center seems like the wrong way to go about it, and if you put poison about you're liable to harm someone's child, or someone's pet.

What's the right way to cull the raccoon population?

I'd vote for trap and drown. Distribute traps around the city and chuck them in the Don river.
 

Rockslinger

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I'd vote for trap and drown.
That's what the University of Waterloo did with their beavers. Here are a couple of other suggestions:
1) Trap them and release them 100 miles up north and let nature take its course.
2) Trap them and dump them all in the backyards of raccoon lovers, like that snitching neighbour (probably also a porch person).
 

danmand

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That's what the University of Waterloo did with their beavers. Here are a couple of other suggestions:
1) Trap them and release them 100 miles up north and let nature take its course.
2) Trap them and dump them all in the backyards of raccoon lovers, like that snitching neighbour (probably also a porch person).
Releasing them more than a km from where they have been captured is a certain and not pleasant way for them to die. Euthanasing them is a better choice.
 

Aardvark154

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Releasing them more than a km from where they have been captured is a certain and not pleasant way for them to die. Euthanasing them is a better choice.
I'd really like to see the studies regarding this. If all sorts and kinds of mammals from Black Footed Ferrets, to Black Tailed Jackrabbits and European (Brown) Hares, to Indian Black Buck to Wild Boar can be reintroduced or just plain introduced and survive why not Raccoons, certainly the Raccoons from Florida which were introduced into West Virginia and started the huge Northeastern U.S. and New Brunswick rabies zoodemic, managed to survive more than long enough to infect a great many other raccoons and other mammals.
 

danmand

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I'd really like to see the studies regarding this. If all sorts and kinds of mammals from Black Footed Ferrets, to Black Tailed Jackrabbits and European (Brown) Hares, to Indian Black Buck to Wild Boar can be reintroduced or just plain introduced and survive why not Raccoons, certainly the Raccoons from Florida which were introduced into West Virginia and started the huge Northeastern U.S. and New Brunswick rabies zoodemic, managed to survive more than long enough to infect a great many other raccoons and other mammals.
The resident raccoons will not tolerate them.
 

JT13

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Great idea!!! Less raccoons, more wolves, coyotes, bobcats, foxes, and pumas in the city. That'll do the trick!
lol! Reminded me of this classic Simpsons sequence:

Skinner: Well, I was wrong; the lizards are a godsend.

Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?

Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!

Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.
 

Mervyn

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Plainly beating racoons with a shovel is not an acceptable way to control them, and probably the City should take ownership of the raccoon problem so that residents aren't left on their own trying to figure out how to do it.

Shooting at them in a crowded urban center seems like the wrong way to go about it, and if you put poison about you're liable to harm someone's child, or someone's pet.

What's the right way to cull the raccoon population?

I'd vote for trap and drown. Distribute traps around the city and chuck them in the Don river.
I don't think decaying bodies would be enviromently friendly, and I still think that would be classified as "cruel"
 

WoodPeckr

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Shooting at them in a crowded urban center seems like the wrong way to go about it,
Not if you hire a qualified mighty white hunter skilled with guns!
Perhaps JAJA is available for hire.....
 

Aardvark154

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The resident raccoons will not tolerate them.
Well, I can see how that could be. However, other animals are also territorial; then again many of them do not have the a) sharp teeth and b) miserable dispositions of Raccoons.

Then again, bears also have sharp teeth and not particularly charming dispositions yet "problem bears" are routinely transported over 150 km away.
 

Ping

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Plainly beating racoons with a shovel is not an acceptable way to control them, and probably the City should take ownership of the raccoon problem so that residents aren't left on their own trying to figure out how to do it.

Shooting at them in a crowded urban center seems like the wrong way to go about it, and if you put poison about you're liable to harm someone's child, or someone's pet.

What's the right way to cull the raccoon population?

I'd vote for trap and drown. Distribute traps around the city and chuck them in the Don river.
Why do you think they make .410 shotguns?
 

WoodPeckr

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Why do you think they make .410 shotguns?
So you won't die when you go hunting with drunken DICK Cheney and he shoots you in the face....:eyebrows:
 

Rockslinger

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Maybe another option is to neuter them. How long do raccoons live anyway? Over time, this should reduce their population.
 

fmahovalich

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I remember back on the farm..a neighbour used to catch them regularly in his feed bins.

A shovel was not a viable option in his mind. He found the 3 pronged pitch fork much more efficient.

Less energy expended!!
 

oldjones

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Let's assume this simple-minded hypothetical is sincerely meant, and that there is a 'problem' that can only bea dealt with by killing. First of all, why kill the raccoons, it is the people cutting down the treas and despoiling the lanscape with their idiotic, lawns and ticky-tacky suburbs who cannot mamnage their food waste who are The Problem.

But on the issue of humaneness, go back to your New Testament and remind yourself we are to treat others as we treat ourselves. The humane death that you would choose for yourself, as an innocent doing no wrong, who was simply trying to live where someone else didn't want you to would be the only humane option.

If that's being drowned in a cage, go for it.
 

Despo

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But they are not humans.... I mean really...why do we need to say that ..really...what about grass plants when society just chops them in half mass slaughter with the green blood everywhere of the baby grass plants...really?? Now get that dress off and go get some common sense...really!!
 

SweetSerenity

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Let's assume this simple-minded hypothetical is sincerely meant, and that there is a 'problem' that can only bea dealt with by killing. First of all, why kill the raccoons, it is the people cutting down the treas and despoiling the lanscape with their idiotic, lawns and ticky-tacky suburbs who cannot mamnage their food waste who are The Problem.

But on the issue of humaneness, go back to your New Testament and remind yourself we are to treat others as we treat ourselves. The humane death that you would choose for yourself, as an innocent doing no wrong, who was simply trying to live where someone else didn't want you to would be the only humane option.

If that's being drowned in a cage, go for it.
If we were on Facebook I would like this post. Thank you for stepping up and mentioning the reality.

Also, for those of you who are thinking we need to introduce a species to help control the raccoon population, did you never take biology in class? Go look up the incident that occurred when Australia tried to introduce toads to their ecosystems to help reduce the population of several species of insect they deemed a nuisance. The ecosystem is a delicate thing that needs to be kept in check. We as humans are the ones screwing that up, so don't blame the rest of the animals for having troubles adapting to how we think they should be living.
If you keep your garbage inside until garbage day comes, then take it out to the curb, and try to keep any waste in your area to a minimum the raccoons will leave your property alone. An animal who can't find food will move on. So try the really humane option and just clean up after yourself.
 
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