'Hitler died an old man in South America'
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Thyssen personally was a very influential and early promoter of Adolf Hitler, backing Hitler's rise directly and personally from the early 1920's, and personally provided or arranged for huge sums of money to be donated to the Nazi party in general and to Hitler in particular. He did approach von Hindenburg personally on Hitler's behalf and he did go beyond simply providing funding in lobbying on behalf of Hitler and the Nazi party. At one point in the 1920's he was actually arrested as a result of his activism on behalf of the Nazis. It is impossible to argue against the claim that he played a very significant role in Hitler's coming to power. He was absolutely key.
On the other hand he became a critic of the Nazi regime when the violence against Jews began, specifically he was horrified by Kristallnacht, and resigned from his posts as a result, which rather takes the bite out of the "he was a Nazi" accusation. He was openly anti-Semitic and a staunch German nationalist but he did not believe in the violence and actually spoke out against it.
I'm less clear on Krup's role.
Nazi war criminals did hide/relocate/escape to South America.
It's surprising how people seem to be ignorant or just want to sweep it under a rug?
that is because many deny the real direction of hitler.
Be happy that he lost his bid for power.
Hitler came to power as Germany was in economic crisis.
He untied the people by blaming the bankers and business owners for all the problems of the country ( same thing seems to be happening today in the USA)
As his quest for power and domination he insisted the JEWS (bankers) caused every economic ill Germany was suffering.
He also said they should be rounded up as a threat and as the numbers became too large to handle he killed them.
He untied the people by blaming the bankers and business owners for all the problems of the country ( same thing seems to be happening today in the USA)
As his quest for power and domination he insisted the JEWS (bankers) caused every economic ill Germany was suffering.
He also said they should be rounded up as a threat and as the numbers became too large to handle he killed them.
In my young days I spent all my summers on the Bariloche's mountains(small town in the patagonia's Andes) lots of Germans there. Many of them use to tell war stories. Like the submariner that told me of the sub he was on that on the last voyage brought many treasures and high ranking officers to Argentina.
Nazis always felt comfortable in the right learning country of Argentina. A few were said to have escaped remote Paraguay also....
you seem to be an expert on the NazisNazis always felt comfortable in the right learning country of Argentina. A few were said to have escaped remote Paraguay also....
I was thinking more of the great stab in the back legend and his ferocious anti-communism...but those are cool too.
How about Stalin? Surely no one believes that he actually died of a stroke. He probably took off for South America where he and Hitler met up for furious games of Risk.
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Since it was von Hindenburg who appointed Hitler Chancellor, and the Reichstag that passed the Enabling Act. . .
The most you can accuse Friedrich Thyssen of is having contributed money to the Nazi Party and having signed a letter to von Hindenburg urging that Hitler be appointed Chancellor On the other side he and his wife were inmates at the Sachsenhausen and Dachau Concentration Camps, further his businesses were Nationalized and he was largely exonerated by the deNazification courts.
Alfried Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach on the other hand was not only an early party member but also a member of the SS. During the deNazification process he was convicted of plunder and use of slave labor. However, then again in the early 1950's after his rehabilitation he refused although having as many pensioners as employees to cut pensions.
