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Could the canadian senate do the same as the french senate who rejected the bill that was initially approved by their house of commons ? It's interesting, the french senate said that they studied the consequences of the law in Sweden and concluded that it was a failure but the canadian cons keep saying it was successful there.
Can it? Yes. Will it? Doubt it. However, yes, technically it's possible. As can the committee. But they won't. However, their only current example has now rejected the very notion it was used to portray. That's awesome. The cons keep stating lots of false data. Excessively & overtly if u ask me. Most of the witnesses that have actually studied Nordic results have concluded it leads to more harm. The cons just don't want to admit it ;)
 

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This new development in France may be important to Canada. I remember reading someone in committee was pointing to France as the reason why bill C36 should be implemented also in Canada. Also a direction for our senators to do their job right and act like senators instead of six digit paid for nothing puppets and reject the bill when they get the chance next fall.
Feminists kill me. "Clients responsible for violence"? How about violent people be responsible for their own violent behavior. Wtf does sex of the person have to do with the price of rice?! Ugh!

I agree, this France issue might set a precedence. Who knows.
 

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anyone in this thread remember the name of the other challenge?

Remember the one that started around the same time as Bedford, but in BC... maybe by the downtown east side sex workers? or Pivot? I think I recall it was abandoned or suspended in favour of Bedford when it became apparent that she was making to the SCC and the 'other case' was still fighting it's way to Provincial top court.
I don't know anything about this, but if there was some case suspended because of the Bedford situation, perhaps it could be resurrected as a fast track back to the Supreme Court, in the event that C36 gets passed, since the new law presents (presumably) the same hazard as the Supremes intended to eliminate in the Bedford decision. That could be good.
 

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Sex workers remain in danger under Ottawa’s proposed new prostitution law: Editorial
Justice Minister Peter MacKay admits the federal government’s goal is to put prostitutes out of business. No wonder Bill C-36 doesn’t make them safer.
Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS
Justice Minister Peter MacKay says Bill -36 bill aims to reduce the demand for prostitution, deter participation and ultimately abolish it.
Published on Jul 08 2014
Instead of making life safer for some of Canada’s most vulnerable and at-risk workers, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s government simply wants to drive prostitutes out of business. Abolition of the sex trade lies at the root of Bill C-36, and that’s why it falls so lamentably short in providing increased security for thousands of sex workers.
It’s impossible to eliminate the world’s so-called oldest profession, even Justice Minister Peter MacKay concedes that. But eradication is the “aspirational” goal of the legislation he defended before the Commons justice committee earlier this week.
The bill aims to reduce the demand for prostitution, deter participation and ultimately abolish it, he said. Given that, it is no wonder it doesn’t address the Supreme Court of Canada’s ruling last year that the existing law is unconstitutional because it forces prostitutes to work in dangerous conditions.
That failure leaves the new version, unveiled last month, open to being overturned by the courts, rendering the entire legislative enterprise a waste of time and effort. Rather than provide clarity and resolve problems inherent in existing law, Bill C-36 feeds confusion. It is telling that the government sought no outside legal opinions in drafting this mess, even though MacKay admitted a Charter of Rights challenge is “as sure as night follows day.”
Resolving such a challenge will likely take years. And while the government blusters and blunders — squandering court time and taxpayers’ dollars — prostitutes will continue to ply their trade in risky circumstances resulting all too often in injury and even death.
At the very least MacKay could have fast-tracked the process by referring the bill directly to the Supreme Court, but he has refused to do even that. It’s almost as if he wants to avoid a verdict for as long as possible, knowing full well that the flawed legislative package he has put forward won’t pass muster.
There’s good reason to expect rejection by Supreme Court justices. They unanimously struck down all three of Canada’s prostitution-related prohibitions last year because these imposed heightened risks and “dangerous conditions” on sex workers, violating their Charter right to security of person. The old law, for example, barred them from working in “fixed” indoor locations and hiring receptionists and security staff.
Selling sex is obviously an unsavory, exploitive business but it wasn’t illegal under the previous law, and it wouldn’t be with Bill C-36. Instead the new legislation criminalizes the purchase of sexual services, with “johns” liable to face up to five years in prison or fines of up to $4,000. The advertising of sexual services would be restricted, in print and online, and prostitutes would be banned from operating near where “persons under the age of 18 can reasonably be expected to be present.”
The upshot of all this would be to force sex workers further to the fringes of society. It will be much harder for prostitutes to screen their clients since potential johns, fearing arrest, would be anxious to operate in the shadows. That’s inherently dangerous. And to avoid possible contact with young people, the law could force sex workers into more isolated, unsafe areas. This isn’t progress.
Instead of putting safety first, the Conservative government is pandering to its base by posturing as trying to stamp out prostitution — bizarrely by keeping sex legal to sell, but a criminal offence to buy. It doesn’t make sense. The Criminal Lawyers’ Association is right to call this “bad policy and bad law.”
The tragedy is that it will take years for the courts to sort this out, leaving sex workers in danger, while the government panders and postures.


http://m.thestar.com/#/article/opin..._proposed_new_prostitution_law_editorial.html
 

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Feminists kill me. "Clients responsible for violence"? How about violent people be responsible for their own violent behavior. Wtf does sex of the person have to do with the price of rice?! Ugh!

I agree, this France issue might set a precedence. Who knows.
Thank you for watching and relaying. I would be bald at my own hands by now if I were watching. What a fucking farce.
 

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Prostitution law gets its own TV show: Mallick
Eleven thoughts on the parliamentary hearings on Bill C-36, the Conservatives' proposed anti-prostitution legislation.
Tony Bock / Tony Bock/Toronto Star
Conservative chair of the Justice Commons Committe, Mike Wallace, is overseeing the hearings on Bill C-36.
Published on Jul 08 2014
Heather Mallick
COLUMNIST
Here are thoughts after a day online watching an Ottawa parliamentary committee discuss Bill C-36 and the concept of arresting men who hire prostitutes:
Calgary Police Chief Rick Hanson is a calm middle-aged man who has seen it all. He has a patient air and is as sympathetic to brutalized local prostitutes as he is to angry homeowners who collect jars of discarded condoms for evidence of how hordes of sex buyers can ruin a neighbourhood. When I compare Chief Hanson + Mayor Nenshi to the chaotic Chief Blair + Mayor Ford that is Toronto’s domestic situational comedy, I am eaten alive with envy.
Kady O’Malley (@kady) of the CBC is a smart, funny tweeter. Montreal journalist @martindufresne is also wise and helpful. I also direct readers to thestar.com where they can find I wrote recently about prostitution laws in Europe. Creepy desperate entitled men are still emailing me about it.
One reason Canadians tune out of federal politics is that once a journalist is stationed on the Hill, he doesn’t dare say that Ottawa is a small dire city that attracts the dim. So he reports it all straight, without context, and pretends it’s plausible. I was quietly appalled by the committee’s performance, but I may just be writing that to preclude the Star sending me to Ottawa.
MPs from all parties are pleasant well-intentioned people. Almost none can form a coherent sentence or ask a crisp question. Even I, who have never had my words transcribed, know my sentences must eventually end, hopefully with punctuation. Don’t drop points like bread crumbs. Stay with the trail and circle back. I used to spend summers at Hansard, and I say my notes covering this committee should not read “says is good tho basicly flerm bu (sic).”
MPs often lack social skills. The distinguished Portuguese parliamentarian José Mendes Bota, who studied European prostitution laws for the Council of Europe, spoke to the committee via satellite. MPs who referred to him as “Mr. Bota” should not then have called prostitute witnesses by their first names, even if that felt right. New Brunswick Conservative MP Robert Goguen spoke particularly brutally to one witness — she had been gang-raped by three male clients — but the atmosphere of mutual misunderstanding was a committee constant.
In Germany where prostitution is legal, there are 400,000 prostitutes, Bota said, but only 44 have taken legal advantage of registering as such for taxation benefits. People who want prostitution called “sex work” might wonder why even there it is not a career choice.
It is not a waste of money to send MPs to Strasbourg on the fact-finding trips that are widely scorned as “junkets.” MPs who have never been outside their rural ridings learn a lot from other continents. They bend intellectually and inhale cultural respect. Going to Yurp taught me how to use a fork, look at paintings, cope with tiny refrigerators, fast trams.
There are MPs who do not know the difference between “indictable” offences and “summary” ones, or indeed “dual” offences in which the Crown Attorney can choose “summary” or go all indictable on you. MPs can sit on the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights without knowing this.
Hanson said $20 million to send prostitutes to national rehab was “woefully inadequate.” When a cop says this, it means Justice Minister Peter MacKay got his sums terribly wrong.
Do not visit #C36 on Twitter. It is people throwing creamed corn at each other, sometimes without opening the can first, and you’ll have to block extremists who find it grotesque that Bota, a man, should have been in charge of researching violence against women in the first place.
Childless people often don’t consider a central issue in prostitution: would you want your daughter to do this for a living? If you are blithe about this question, you do not have a teenage daughter who is rebellious or indeed walks along a local prostitution “stroll” on her way to school. I have talked to career brothel managers, to pimps, who got defensive about this. But then some people don’t like their children in the first place, another issue that runs very deep beneath the prostitution story.
The hearing continues.
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http://m.thestar.com/#/article/opin...itution_law_gets_its_own_tv_show_mallick.html
 

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Fred Hahn: Sex workers deserve the same protections as all other workers

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...ve-the-same-protections-as-all-other-workers/

If the Harper government’s anti-prostitution legislation, Bill C-36, is passed, it will reproduce the harms and violence of the prostitution laws that were recently deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of Canada (SCC) in its Bedford decision. The new bill not only reintroduces most of the offending laws, it also adds more criminal provisions to prohibit purchasing sex and advertising sexual services.

If it becomes law, this legislation will drive sex work underground by removing any legitimate means of accessing labour protections and safety mechanisms. It also prohibits sex workers from working collaboratively and from paying others to help ensure their safety.

The prohibition on advertising sexual services will make it even more difficult for sex workers to have some degree of control over their own businesses and their safety. Criminalizing communications minimizes sex workers’ ability to screen clients and to assess potential risks. The preponderance of research on sex work clearly demonstrates that the criminal restrictions contained within Bill C-36 are the kinds of laws that increase violence against sex workers.

The Canadian Union of Public Employees Ontario (CUPE Ontario) looks to labour laws and occupational health and safety codes to address injustice and exploitation at work. The SCC decision in the Bedford case demonstrated that the use of criminal laws to regulate any aspect of sex work takes its hardest toll on sex workers.

Writing for the majority, Chief Justice Beverly McLaughlin ruled that criminal laws “impose conditions on how prostitutes operate.” She added that criminal provisions “go a critical step further, by imposing dangerous conditions on prostitution; they prevent people engaged in a risky — but legal — activity from taking steps to protect themselves from the risk.”

The criminalization of any part of sex work prevents sex workers from negotiating and enforcing workplace health and safety standards. It also prevents redress from labour abuses and discrimination. Laws criminalizing brothels make it impossible to report labour violations, without fear of having one’s brothel raided and of losing one’s job. Even if a sex worker has wrongfully lost her job, criminalization makes it impossible for her to be reinstated.

Workplace violence is not limited to sex workers. Violence on the job is a highly documented and important issue for transit workers, home-care attendants and visiting nurses, taxi drivers, ambulance drivers, as well as gas station and convenience store attendants. At least people working in these industries have an incentive to report violent crime to the authorities.

The criminalization of sex work prevents redress for violence at work, home or anywhere else. The prohibition on brothels and those who manage them means that sex workers cannot report violence — even if they have the support of management — without risking their jobs.

Sex workers across Canada have demanded that Bill C-36 be scrapped entirely. They deserve the same protections as all workers, including the right to earn an income without being persecuted, the right to a healthy and safe work environment, and the right to freely associate with other workers.

CUPE Ontario has always fought for workers’ rights in the workplace and in our communities. Trade unions must support the health and safety of everyone, especially those working in precarious industries. We therefore stand in solidarity with sex workers and all organizations that are committed to defeating this regressive and dangerous legislation. We call on the federal government to reject Bill C-36, and implement a policy of full decriminalization of all forms of sex work.

Fred Hahn is the president of CUPE Ontario.
This is excellent!
 

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'Foolish' to think prostitution will go away

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/life/Foolish+think+prostitution+will+away/10016594/story.html

Police chief says funds won't fix social problems

Saskatoon police Chief Clive Weighill says it's foolish to think prostitution will ever be eradicated, and $20 million spread over five years won't fix the social woes that lead people into the trade.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay has said the federal government wants to abolish prostitution, "to the extent possible," and has promised the five-year fund to help sex workers exit the field.

A House of Commons justice committee is hearing feedback this week about the proposed bill as the government works to have legislation in place by mid-December, when old prostitution laws will be nullified in keeping with a Supreme Court of Canada ruling last year.

Calgary police Chief Rick Hanson, who spoke to the committee this week, said $20 million is "woefully inadequate."

Weighill said although he is unimpressed by Mac-Kay's stated goal for the new law and the promise of money, he thinks the law could help control street prostitution.

"I'm in favour of it. We need to have something legislated to help us deal with it," he said.

"The police need something to fall back on to legally look into the trade to ensure we don't have young people involved or people that are being trafficked."

Saskatoon's adult services bylaw has authorized police to monitor who is working in brothels and massage parlours, but it hasn't succeeded in preventing people from ignoring the bylaw and plying the trade on the streets. Officers found a 17-year-old girl working in a licensed business, which led to a charge against the owner, Weighill said.

"The bylaw has been very effective ... now everybody knows what the rules are ... The escort services and the massage parlours have fallen in line quite well."

On the stroll, vice officers have continued to operate john stings. They hope the new law will discourage the street trade.

"I don't believe we're going to eradicate prostitution. We're foolish if we think that's ever going to be eliminated," Weighill said.

"The government has offered money to help people get out of the social conditions they're in that would maybe entice them into the world of prostitution and, of course, $20 million isn't going to fix the social woes of underprivileged people," he said.

"I don't believe there is a solution.

This has been around since the beginning of time and people will engage in this act.

"If you push it too far underground it's just harder for us to investigate, but if you leave it wide open, it opens a whole other door to a string of issues. It's the moral dilemma I'm talking about." There are differences of opinion even within the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, in which religious faith or the absence of it plays a role, he said.

"This is almost like talking about the argument around abortion. I mean, you just have one of those social issues that you're never going to find congruence on."

Weighill said it's too soon to say how the bill, if passed, would affect Saskatoon's bylaw.

City councillor Pat Lorje said "it's a bit vainglorious" of the federal government to think a hastily passed law will address the multi-faceted issues that cause the problem. The government should focus on reducing poverty and deal "honourably with respect to treaty implementation," as a way to improve life in aboriginal communities, from which many in the sex trade originate, she said.

"Let's get on with it, for heaven's sake."
What does "vainglorious" mean?
 

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This is excellent!

It may be commendable for Mr. Hahn to comment on the rights of sex workers.

Perhaps it is an untapped area of the labour market to unionize, which may be theoretically correct.

However, I don't believe that big unions are so altruistic, and to expand their roster is equally an important objective in of itself.

Can you imagine having unionized MPAs?
 

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It may be commendable for Mr. Hahn to comment on the rights of sex workers.

Perhaps it is an untapped area of the labour market to unionize, which may be theoretically correct.

However, I don't believe that big unions are so altruistic, and to expand their roster is equally an important objective in of itself.

Can you imagine having unionized MPAs?
Not sure how that would work as they are all independent contractors. What could this union really accomplish? You can't exactly do what unions typically do and ask the owners for higher wages. And the market is so varied between high class spas and low end hollistics. And not all women who work at the low end hollistics can work at the high class spas.
 

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Sex workers could be forced to ‘risk their lives’ if prostitution bill passes, escort service owner says

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...tution-bill-passes-escort-service-owner-says/

Amanda Jerome, Special to National Post

TORONTO — If you work for Jillian Hollander, she says, you will be eligible for educational bursaries, RRSP matching, and discounts on plastic surgery if you need a confidence boost.

But working for Ms. Hollander would mean becoming a sex worker. She owns and runs Cupid’s Escorts, Toronto’s biggest, employing 40 prostitutes.

In layman’s terms she’s a pimp; Ms. Hollander describes herself as a madame. The prostitution industry described by the Conservative government and supporters of its Bill C-36 during parliamentary hearings this week, she says, is not the prostitution industry she works in.

“I run a high-end introduction service,” says Ms. Hollander (and no, that’s not her real name). “I screen the clients and set up dates. I encourage the women to pursue their education by providing bursary programs. I encourage them to think about their futures by doing RRSP matching, and I have plastic surgery discounts for those that want to feel a bit better about themselves. I ensure their security, I take care of their marketing, and make sure they’re treated with the respect that they deserve.”

If Bill C-36, the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, is passed, Ms. Hollander’s company will be in violation of the law for selling sexual services and advertising those services on the Internet.

“My head’s been spinning for the past two weeks as I come to the realization of how this will affect me,” says Ms. Hollander. “I find it ridiculous that the Conservatives want to create laws for us without even consulting us and how we feel.”

The Supreme Court struck down Canada’s old prostitution law last December, saying it exposed sex workers to undue risks that constituted a violation of their basic Charter right to security of the person. The Conservatives responded with a new bill that creates new offences for clients and pimps, but does not generally criminalize prostitutes themselves — except if they communicate to sell their services in a public place where children might be.

During this week’s hearings in Ottawa, witnesses were deeply divided by those who see sex workers as victims, and those who see them as women in charge of their own destiny. The Harper government, though, revealed no ambiguity. Mary Ann Dewey-Plante, spokesman for Justice Minister Peter MacKay, said this week Bill C-36 ‘‘will protect vulnerable Canadians and our communities from this inherently dangerous activity.”

“No one takes the time to delve deep and understand,” says Leigh, one of the escorts working for Ms. Hollander. “The Tories have only talked to the people that support them. They haven’t talked to us.”

Ms. Hollander bought Cupid’s Escorts when she was 26. She started researching the escort industry after she discovered her boyfriend used one, found an agency for sale, and then decided to buy Cupid’s ‘‘for about the price of a mid-range car.’’

“The majority of people don’t understand what sex work is all about,” she says. “People tend to think that most of us are abused and come from bad families. I came from an upper-middle class family in the suburbs of Toronto. I was given every privilege imaginable.”

“If Bill C-36 is introduced as law, I’m out of a job. My employees will all be out of a job. They’ll have to find black market agencies to work for and they’ll risk their lives if the clients are criminalized. Our society will become more repressed. Screening makes women safe. Screening stops women from meeting another Robert Pickton.”

Leigh says she sees couples and even single women, but mostly she sees people in need of not only sex but understanding.

“Half the time I’m a therapist. They talk about their jobs, their lives, their kids. They’re looking for a companion. We don’t always have sex the first time and it progresses from there. If this stuff were more well known then it wouldn’t be scary.”

She got into the industry when her partner, Jay, lost his job, their debt was over $30,000, and they needed income.

“I knew someone in the industry and spoke to her for six months until I understood the industry, then I started interviewing with agencies,” she says. “We’re swingers, so it’s an easier transition. Most men wouldn’t be comfortable with this.”

Jay now works at Cupid’s as a driver, chauffeuring escorts between appointments.

“The word I hear people use the most often is empowerment,” Jay says of how the women he drives describe their experiences working in the sex industry.

“If people could walk a mile in my shoes and see how liberating this can be,” says Leigh. “I used to be so stressed about money. This changed our lives. I feel more confident since I’ve started in this business. I’m not a victim. It’s my choice and now the government is telling me I can’t have my choice.”

Jessica Lee, who works for herself in the Muskoka region north of Toronto, said she’s never felt like a victim. She takes care of all her own marketing, styling, and date arrangements. She has worked in the industry for six years.

“It’s kind of a funny story,” Ms. Lee says about her introduction to escorting. “I was a client before I was a provider. I was seeing this guy, and we had a pretty open relationship. One day, for his birthday, I hired an escort for a threesome. When we broke up, I got in touch with her [the escort] and asked about the industry.”

Ms. Lee said she has a dedicated client base, and Bill C-36 won’t affect her business.

‘‘Because I’m established, I’m not worried. I’m not going to stop being a sex worker. It’s like the gun thing — if you’re going to outlaw guns who’s going to carry them? Outlaws! The men who are more risk averse will stop and we’ll be left with the dregs of society. I feel bad for the girls on the street because that’s what they’re left with.”

Ms. Lee says she can gross between $80,000 and $130,000, depending on the year, and pays her taxes dutifully. She used to be a struggling, single parent who received assistance from the Salvation Army at Christmas. Now she’s the one doing the donating.

Ms. Hollander won’t reveal her income as a madame, but says her job affords her a very comfortable upper-middle class lifestyle. She lives in a beautiful, 2,500-square-foot home in a decent neighbourhood, and travels widely and often.

“They think we’re all abused, and pimped out, and I’m a victim that needs rescuing,’’ says Ms. Lee. ‘‘I’m not, I’m very happy.”

National Post, with files from The Canadian Press
Go Jillian & Jessica!!! Well done ladies! Xoxo
 

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If they are worried about victimization, they should outlaw organized sports. Children are regularly bullied and verbally if not physically abused as well and violence is pervasive through out most of them.
 

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KITCHENER Johanna loves her job.

She works from her home, earns cash money — about $1,000 a week — and reports to no one.

She has sex with men.

She's a sex worker and it's a job she's done from the privacy of her own suburban Kitchener house for 15 years.

"I really like what I do. There are a lot of nice guys out there," she said. "I think I'm pretty lucky."

"I'm not ashamed. I like connecting with another men and listening to their stories," she said.

Johanna is married. In October, she celebrates her 32nd wedding anniversary. Her husband knows about her work and supports her choice.

Johanna admits her husband had difficulty with the idea in the beginning. But Johanna says trust is paramount and she loves her husband.

Johanna, 50, is her own boss. She's never had a pimp. She books her clients from a website used by sex workers as well as her own website. Her iPhone is her friend.

Her face is visible from photographs online and her two adult sons know about her work.

Many of her clients are regular customers, coming to her since she started. Some clients are local, while others visit the area on business. Most are in other relationships.

Her customers range from young men in their late 20s, to middle-aged men, to those in their 70s and 80s. She charges about $150 to $180 an hour.

Some men want sex, but many also want someone to listen to, she said. And there are the clients who want their fantasies fulfilled and fetishes met.

Johanna sees her clients during the day, often seeing two men a day, sometimes three, but takes days off whenever she feels like it. She always uses condoms.

"You have to set standards higher in order to get the clientele. They know they are in a safe place," she said.

Unlike other sex workers who fear for their lives in this work and have experienced violence at the hands of their customers, Johanna said she's been fortunate.

But there was one incident. In 1999, she agreed to an "out call," meeting a client in his home. After paying for an hour, the man wanted his money back because he was dissatisfied.

"He didn't want to let me go. He was swinging a cleaver in front of me," recalls Johanna, who called her husband. He then called 911. The man was charged and she testified in court.

At one point, she ran an agency and had women working for her but the business was "a lot of headaches" so she gave it up and went on her own.

But sex work is a job she will soon stop for good. She's found other work that she likes more. Next year, she will return to college to enrol in the personal support worker program and hopes to work with seniors in their homes.

For Johanna, sex work has always been her choice. She's not addicted to drugs or alcohol and chooses to have sex with men.

"I'm very discreet about what I do. I feel safe because I'm in my own home," she said.

She supports legalizing the work and thinks the new prostitution bill should decriminalize prostitution.

"There will always be girls doing this. It will never go away," she said. "They (government) should legalize it and profit from it."


Waterloo Region Record

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4629226-kitchener-sex-worker-married-32-years-with-children/
 
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