Porn star Christy Mackk tells tale/posts photos of beating by ex bf/MMA fighter

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

The story is a person beat another person. Period.

I don't care if was a man or a woman who was beating or being beat. The pictures say it all. He had no right to beat her. Period.

I will go as far as to say that when he is arrested and in jail and he gets beat, I will be looking at why the guards where not doing their job. We may wish that a person who is like this gets his "just desserts" but when it comes to the reality of it, it is wrong.

I don't think there are many here who have ever been beaten up close to what she was. I think if you had, you may have a different opinion on hitting.

 

[nuprin001]

Actually you are.. By questioning what "role" she had in this you're questioning how much she is to blame for her own vicious beating.. I'm telling you that there's not a human being on earth (short of the kinda people who blow up planes, diddle little kids, or repeatedly drive drunk and eventually kill somebody) that deserves the beating she got...

No, I'm not. I'm treating them as separate issues. You're equating two things that I don't equate. You're looking for a black and white picture, when I'm looking at the whole picture.

I'm saying that the story doesn't have to be "douche bag beats up damsel in distress" because the story is already "douche bag beats another WEAKER human being to a bloody pulp (and likely within an inch or two of theeir life)"

Wait: so you're saying that when pro wrestler Sean Waltman beat up his wife Joan Laurer, that was okay because Chyna was obviously bigger and stronger than X-Pac? Because that's what you're saying, isn't it? That the strength between two people is what matters?

The "truth" you are after is how much she is to blame for what happened to her, and that's fucked up..

No, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking at a story that's been written as a "damsel in distress" story and I'm saying there's the POSSIBILITY that there's fuckery going on here.

Mack could be a raving bitch who makes fun of War Machine's dick, who belittles him, who treats him like shit, and it doesn't excuse or justify in any way him so much as slapping her (in a non-consensual, outside the bedroom way), let alone what he actually did. He is responsible, period.

All I'm doing is bringing up the possibility that she isn't a damsel in distress. What's so difficult to understand about that nuance? I'm not saying that her career means she deserves this. I'm not saying NOT being a damsel in distress means she deserves this. I'm saying she may not be a damsel in distress. That the story isn't being fully told. I don't see any way where the story can be fully told that releases "War Machine" in any way from his responsibility. I just want the full story. What the hell is wrong with that?

 

[nottyboi]

There had been lesser acts of violence towards her in the past, so, while I think the guy is scum and should be in jail, she also chose to stay with scum. So she is not blameless.

 

[nuprin001]

The story is a person beat another person. Period.

I don't care if was a man or a woman who was beating or being beat. The pictures say it all. He had no right to beat her. Period.

I will go as far as to say that when he is arrested and in jail and he gets beat, I will be looking at why the guards where not doing their job. We may wish that a person who is like this gets his "just desserts" but when it comes to the reality of it, it is wrong.

I don't think there are many here who have ever been beaten up close to what she was. I think if you had, you may have a different opinion on hitting.

With respect, you're essentially saying "the story stops here". And you don't have the right, nobody has the right, to tell me or anyone that the story stops at a particular point. I'm curious. That's all that this is. I'm pretty damn sure that "War Machine" is a massive douchebag and doesn't deserve to breathe free air. I've listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with him, and he's just a douchebag.

Is it perfectly possible he's the kind of deluded douchebag who'd go to the home of a girl he's been broken up with for three months, thinking he could propose marriage to her and make it all right? Totally. 100%. But there's something about the two competing versions of the lead up to the beating, NEITHER OF WHICH IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM JUSTIFIES OR EXCUSES THE BEATING, that feels like we're not being told the full truth by either side. When I get that feeling, I say so. And that's all that I'm doing here.

 

[AdamH]

No, I'm not. I'm treating them as separate issues. You're equating two things that I don't equate. You're looking for a black and white picture, when I'm looking at the whole picture.

Why does it matter to you? Why do you care if she was fucking the other dude, or if she called WM over only to make him jealous, or if she was maybe trying to set him up to be beaten up himself... Why does that matter to you so much? Just answer that first and we'll get into the rest of it.

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

With respect, you're essentially saying "the story stops here". And you don't have the right, nobody has the right, to tell me or anyone that the story stops at a particular point. I'm curious. That's all that this is. I'm pretty damn sure that "War Machine" is a massive douchebag and doesn't deserve to breathe free air. I've listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with him, and he's just a douchebag.

Is it perfectly possible he's the kind of deluded douchebag who'd go to the home of a girl he's been broken up with for three months, thinking he could propose marriage to her and make it all right? Totally. 100%. But there's something about the two competing versions of the lead up to the beating, NEITHER OF WHICH IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM JUSTIFIES OR EXCUSES THE BEATING, that feels like we're not being told the full truth by either side. When I get that feeling, I say so. And that's all that I'm doing here.

You are right. You are entitle to your curiosity, but that is all it is. A lone person's curiosity.

And I never said the story stops there or at least I was not trying you. Plus that does not negate the fact that the main story is what it is. A person beat another person with respect to THAT aspect of it.

The rest that is being presented here is to change that story to something that suits the opinions of others. The opinions of damsel in distress or whacked out crazy chick, or even douchebag man. Which leads to those appearing for or against or somewhere in the middle of who deserves what. Because even though you have the right to be curious and to have an opinion, it is does mean in anyway that a person has the right to hit another person.

People need to see the different between the two. If they do, then the opinions are opinions and the facts are the facts and the line is drawn. The line in the case again is no person has the right to hit another person. You and I are in agree with that.

I hope that is makes sense. You are trying to treat them as separate issues {which I see} yet when people label a story as one way or another the issues get combined and then you have people believe that you are laying blame or looking to lay blame.

So again the story is or should be a person beat another person. Not "Dougebag MMA fighter beats damsel in distress" nor should it be "Lovestuck man ends up in fight crazed slutty porn star and her new man. " In my opinion.

Make sense?

 

[mandrill]

Gotta say, I agree w NuPrin. Few or no-one is excusing what took place. But there's no reason not to talk about the other aspects of the situation. It simple curiosity about human nature and human dynamics.

 

[mandrill]

There had been lesser acts of violence towards her in the past, so, while I think the guy is scum and should be in jail, she also chose to stay with scum. So she is not blameless.

I don't think it's an issue of blame. The beating was pretty horrendous and assessing whether someone "shares the blame" for being beaten up - let alone that badly - is pretty stupid. Let's have some respect for physical integrity as an inviolable rule.

 

[AdamH]

Wait: so you're saying that when pro wrestler Sean Waltman beat up his wife Joan Laurer, that was okay because Chyna was obviously bigger and stronger than X-Pac? Because that's what you're saying, isn't it? That the strength between two people is what matters?

It's weird that you bring up these two.. Because the only stories I can find online are all about the time SHE was arrested for domestic abuse.. Not him..

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

Just so people who are actually blaming her can see for themselves the damage they think she deserved.

Now, I am not posting this for the ones looking into the story. Curious or not. I am posting this for those who 100% believe that she asked for this or has fault in this, or lead WM on, etc

 

[AdamH]

Gotta say, I agree w NuPrin. Few or no-one is excusing what took place. But there's no reason not to talk about the other aspects of the situation. It simple curiosity about human nature and human dynamics.

I'll concede that the two CAN be separated.. Sure, maybe one truly can be "curious" without at all laying any kind of blame (in their mind) on the victim... It's possible, but not likely...

Person 1 - "This woman was beat up to within an inch of her life, she claims it's because of yada yada yada happening"
Person 2 - "Hmmmm.. Shame.. I feel bad for her.. But I wonder what really happened before she got beat up..."

Forgive me if I have the audacity to think that this sounds like victim blaming..

 

[Smallcock]

Why are there multiple people here who are obsessed with the fact that she's not the innocent damsel in distress?

Who gives a flying fuck?

Of course she's not.. She was a porn star who was dating some hot headed freak and you think you should be surprised (or judge her differently) because she likely had "baggage"?

Give your heads a shake... This isn't about who she is or what she said or did to the guy.. It's about the fact that a woman got beat so hard she ended up with 18 broken bones around her eye, broke her nose in 2 places, broke some of her teeth, outright knocked other teeth out.. In what world does ANYBODY give a shit what this girl did or said prior to getting this beat down?? In what world does anybody think this shit is relevant??

It matters insofar as "if you play with fire, you're bound to get burned". War Machine is a forest fire.

It's sad that people like WM and Mack exist because they obviously invite pain and terror into their own lives.

 

[AdamH]

It matters insofar as "if you play with fire, you're bound to get burned". War Machine is a forest fire.

It's sad that people like WM and Mack exist because they obviously invite pain and terror into their own lives.

Yeah, that's victim blaming.. "She had it coming" didn't she...

 

[GPIDEAL]

Sad thing is 'War Machine' (regardless of his past violent history with women) will continue to bang plenty of women (models, pornstars, etc.) ... :frown:

Not if he goes to prison.

 

[mandrill]

It's weird that you bring up these two.. Because the only stories I can find online are all about the time SHE was arrested for domestic abuse.. Not him..

which must have been the most inept Net search ever conducted. Here's what the Wiki article says about this freak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

Personal life

Koppenhaver was born in Simi Valley, California. His German-American father was an officer for the Los Angeles Police Department and his Mexican mother worked as a nurse, but she later became a stay-at-home mom.[4] Due to his mother's drug addiction, Koppenhaver would often take care of his little brother and sister.[4] When he was thirteen, Koppenhaver unsuccessfully performed CPR on his father, only to witness him die during the process.[5]

In August 2000, Koppenhaver attended The Citadel in Charleston, South Carolina, for two years before being expelled for "poor behavior".[6] While attending, he majored in biology.[6] In an interview, Koppenhaver claimed that he had been earning high marks at The Citadel.[4]

Koppenhaver was previously in a relationship with porn star Christy Mack,[7][8][9] and the two were featured in the January 2014 issue of Hustler in a nude pictorial.[10] ..........

Assault convictions

Koppenhaver has been arrested and convicted numerous times for violent offences.

On September 2, 2007, he was found guilty of striking a Las Vegas man in the face and choking him unconscious during a parking lot scuffle.[34] In February, 2008, he was sentenced to three years of probation and 30 days of community service, avoiding the possible felony charge and accompanying prison time.[34]

On February 22, 2008, Koppenhaver plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of assault and battery, and was fine and sentenced to probation.[35]

In August, 2010, Koppenhaver was sentenced to one year in the county jail for a felony assault conviction stemming from a fight at a Point Loma bar earlier in the year, as well as an additional fight at a Pacific Beach bar.[36][37] He was imprisoned in the San Diego's George Bailey Detention Facility and served time in administrative segregation.[38]

After going to jail, Koppenhaver maintained his Twitter account as well as a blog documenting his time in jail. In this blog, he stated that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi Germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America... I'm not exaggerating either."[39] Koppenhaver also described how he was sent into administrative segregation due to jail policy violations but decided to voluntarily remain there until the end of his sentence.[40] Koppenhaver was released from incarceration on July 15, 2011.[41]

On February 1, 2012, it was announced via Koppenhaver's Twitter that he will be serving another year of jail time, due to preceding events. He was released on October 29, 2012.[42]

On August 8, 2014, it was reported that Christy Mack and her friend were assaulted in her Las Vegas home, allegedly by War Machine, and taken to the hospital where it was found that Mack suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver.[43] The Las Vegas Police have named Koppenhaver as the "prime suspect" for the alleged assault. According to Mack, War Machine also tried to rape her, but got angry when he failed to.[44]

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

which must have been the most inept Net search ever conducted. Here's what the Wiki article says about this freak.

I think he was searching Sean Waltman & Joan Laurer.

 

[AdamH]

which must have been the most inept Net search ever conducted. Here's what the Wiki article says about this freak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

Personal life

Koppenhaver was born in Simi Valley, California. His German-American father was an officer for the Los Angeles Police Department and his Mexican mother worked as a nurse, but she later became a stay-at-home mom.[4] Due to his mother's drug addiction, Koppenhaver would often take care of his little brother and sister.[4] When he was thirteen, Koppenhaver unsuccessfully performed CPR on his father, only to witness him die during the process.[5]

In August 2000, Koppenhaver attended The Citadel in Charleston, South Carolina, for two years before being expelled for "poor behavior".[6] While attending, he majored in biology.[6] In an interview, Koppenhaver claimed that he had been earning high marks at The Citadel.[4]

Koppenhaver was previously in a relationship with porn star Christy Mack,[7][8][9] and the two were featured in the January 2014 issue of Hustler in a nude pictorial.[10] ..........

Assault convictions

Koppenhaver has been arrested and convicted numerous times for violent offences.

On September 2, 2007, he was found guilty of striking a Las Vegas man in the face and choking him unconscious during a parking lot scuffle.[34] In February, 2008, he was sentenced to three years of probation and 30 days of community service, avoiding the possible felony charge and accompanying prison time.[34]

On February 22, 2008, Koppenhaver plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of assault and battery, and was fine and sentenced to probation.[35]

In August, 2010, Koppenhaver was sentenced to one year in the county jail for a felony assault conviction stemming from a fight at a Point Loma bar earlier in the year, as well as an additional fight at a Pacific Beach bar.[36][37] He was imprisoned in the San Diego's George Bailey Detention Facility and served time in administrative segregation.[38]

After going to jail, Koppenhaver maintained his Twitter account as well as a blog documenting his time in jail. In this blog, he stated that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi Germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America... I'm not exaggerating either."[39] Koppenhaver also described how he was sent into administrative segregation due to jail policy violations but decided to voluntarily remain there until the end of his sentence.[40] Koppenhaver was released from incarceration on July 15, 2011.[41]

On February 1, 2012, it was announced via Koppenhaver's Twitter that he will be serving another year of jail time, due to preceding events. He was released on October 29, 2012.[42]

On August 8, 2014, it was reported that Christy Mack and her friend were assaulted in her Las Vegas home, allegedly by War Machine, and taken to the hospital where it was found that Mack suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver.[43] The Las Vegas Police have named Koppenhaver as the "prime suspect" for the alleged assault. According to Mack, War Machine also tried to rape her, but got angry when he failed to.[44]

Wait: so you're saying that when pro wrestler Sean Waltman beat up his wife Joan Laurer, that was okay because Chyna was obviously bigger and stronger than X-Pac? Because that's what you're saying, isn't it? That the strength between two people is what matters?

This is what Nuprin001 had brought up.. I don't know why you're sending me info about War Machine.

 

[danmand]

Maybe the legal eagles here can shed some light on this. In the country I grew up in, the criminal system had special very strict rules for assault committed by trained fighters (at the time boxers), something like any assault by a boxer would be considered assault with a deadly weapon.

Are there similar rules in Camnada and/or the US?

 

[GPIDEAL]

I think it is highly probable that she set up the other poor dude for a beating by taunting out WM and telling WM that she was fucking someone else that night. Probably WM was flirting with another girl the prior time they went to a club and she decided to fuck with his head a little. Didn't work out the way she planned.

I would not doubt that this is a possible scenario but as you will agree, he still doesn't have the right to beat her. I would've dumped her ass and hooked up with another porn star.

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

I have to admit, I would like to hear from the other man that was there. Even in all of this he said, she said, there is a still another person who was beat up by WM. That seems to be a fact that some are forgetting.