Israel Gives US the Finger - Announces 2600 New Houses on Eve of Obama Meeting

[fuji]

Again, Israel did not murder a single person. There were terroristskilled justly and properly, and there were civilians killed inadvertently or incidentally. No one was murdered by Israel.

Hamas did drag a bunch of Palestinians out to the street and murdered them. And Hamas certainly committed thousands of acts of attempted murder against Israeli civilians, and succeeded in murdering a few. They also murdered those three Israeli teens.

 

[groggy]

Again, Israel did not murder a single person. There were terroristskilled justly and properly, and there were civilians killed inadvertently or incidentally. No one was murdered by Israel.

Your track record is embarrassing.

You said the same thing about the Flotilla, even after Israel admitted culpability and started negotiations for settlements with Turkey.
Now you say the same thing about the 4 kids playing soccer on the beach in Gaza that Israel murdered, even after the IDF started investigations.

Nothing you claim is worth listening to.

Israel killed 500 children in Gaza, bombed hospitals and schools.
There is no excuse for those crimes.

 

[fuji]

You said the same thing about the Flotilla, even after Israel admitted culpability and started negotiations for settlements with Turkey.

You are lying. Israel only ever admitted that they made mistakes, they were not ever culpable for the deaths. Their mistake was in not using more overwhelming force. Had they used more overwhelming force the thugs would not have been able to engage in close combat with the soldiers.

All those on the flotilla who were shot were armed thugs shot in the act of attacking lawful security forces.

Now you say the same thing about the 4 kids playing soccer on the beach in Gaza that Israel murdered, even after the IDF started investigations.

There you go again, blatantly lying. No serious person thinks they were murdered. The one accusation beyond investigated is that not enough was done to confirm targeting and even that is in doubt.

 

[groggy]

All those on the flotilla who were shot were armed thugs shot in the act of attacking lawful security forces.
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Thanks for confirming your support for the killing of civilians.

 

[fuji]

When civilians are carrying out armed attacks against security forces I and the Geneva Convention support shooting them dead.

 

[basketcase]

Thanks for confirming your support for the killing of civilians.

Says the guy who has routinely justified killing of Israeli civilians and went so far as to argue that Jews who live in the West Bank, including children and the elderly, should not be considered civilians.



p.s. another of gryf's lying titles. It was a rights group that announced it.

 

[groggy]

When civilians are carrying out armed attacks against security forces I and the Geneva Convention support shooting them dead.

They weren't armed.

They were aid workers bringing in humanitarian aid to support the people of Gaza who were and are living under an illegal blockade.

You are supporting killing aid workers, civilian aid workers.
Just as you support the bombing of hospitals, schools and children playing on beaches.

 

[basketcase]

They weren't armed....

Despite what their own videos showed?

 

[fuji]

They weren't armed.

They were aid workers bringing in humanitarian aid to support the people of Gaza who were and are living under an illegal blockade.

Another example of your blatant, shameless lying. The video shows they were armed with steel clubs and knives. In fact, not only were they armed, they viciously attacked security forces. Officers were stabbed and beaten and held hostage by these violent thugs.

They were shot in the act, justly and properly. The mistake IDF made was assuming that the ship only contained aid workers when in reality it included armed terrorists.

Had IDF known there were armed terrorists on the ship they would have taken a different approach that would not have given the thugs an opportunity to engage in close quarters combat.

 

[groggy]

Another example of your blatant, shameless lying. The video shows....

The video shows the IDF firing from helicopters before they illegally boarded a Turkish ship in international waters and summarily executed aid workers.

 

[fuji]

The video also shows the thugs armed to the teeth with iron bars and knives and we see them planning well in advance to attack IDF.

Stop lying. They were armed and there is proof that they were armed. Changing the topic to other aspects of the event does not change that they were armed thugs.

And Israel was exonerated fully, it has a lawful right to blockade Gaza and to board any ship claiming to be bound for Gaza, whether in international waters or not.

Your terror pals were justly and properly shot.

 

[groggy]

Your terror pals were justly and properly shot.

'Summarily Executed' is how the UN says the volunteer, aid activists were killed.
Still supporting killing civilians, aren't you, you terrorist sympathizer.

You really should stop supporting state terrorism and support democracy and equal rights.

 

[fuji]

No, they were not executed, they were video taped attacking soldiers and they were shot in the act.

The activists own video showed them arming themselves and discussing their violent intentions before the Israelis even showed up.

 

[groggy]

No, they were not executed, .

They were executed, as reported by the UN.
The IDF shot and killed civilian activists even before they illegally boarded the flotilla.

 

[fuji]

The final UN report exonerated Israel.

Meanwhile you flat out LIED about them being unarmed.

 

[groggy]

The final UN report exonerated Israel.

Meanwhile you flat out LIED about them being unarmed.

No, the only one that looked into whether crimes were committed or the legality of the blockade found enough cause for Israel to be charged at the ICC.
Meanwhile, you support Israel assassinating aid workers from a helicopter before they illegally boarded in defence of a blockade that is a war crime.
All this to support a policy that resulted in permanently disfiguring tens of thousands of toddlers.
Why do you argue so strongly for starving toddlers until they are stunted and shooting civilians?

You should turn away from state terrorism and embrace peace and equal human rights.
Learn to love the democracy, you arse.

 

[fuji]

You still haven't apologized for your blatant lie that the thugs were unarmed.

And no, that that pathetic garbage from UNHRC did not have any legal standing to recommend anything to anyone. The only report with legal standing exonerate Israel, as did thev icky bipartisan UN report. The final UN report also found that the UNHRC report was biased and full of errors.

 

[groggy]

You still haven't apologized for your blatant lie that the thugs were unarmed.

They were not armed.
They had no pistols, no guns, no stun grenades, no rifles, no automatic weapons, no helicopters, no missiles.
They were aid workers.

 

[fuji]

They were armed with knives and metal bars, which they used to viciously assault security forces. It is all captured on video, including on video from the activists.

You need to stop lying and admit they were armed.

 

[groggy]

They were armed with knives and metal bars, which they used to viciously assault security forces.

Do you mean the security forces who illegally attacked and shot and killed protesters before boarding a Turkish ship in international waters?
That was defence, not attack.

The IDF attacked, the aid workers who survived the first round of slaughter defended themselves with whatever they could find.
It was a legal and lawful defence against an illegal attack.