Fact is I lived in a communist country and you did not. The only failure of Cuba policy lies in the hands of Castro brothers who sentenced Cubans to generations of slavery, misery and poverty. But, you wouldn't know anything about it. You have your "facts".
Cuba - U.S. "Normalization"?
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And maybe the land of the free will allow its citizens to travel to the island.Cuba's other sponsor, Venezuela, is having its own problems.
Looks like Cuban baseball players will no longer have to defect to play ball in the U.S. and Cubans will no longer have to escape Cuba in rowboats to get to the U.S.
Of coarse it isThe reaction from the Cuban expat community has been mixed.
For decade a number of these people have been one of the strongest lobby groups to maintaining the economic embargo
Many of them were wealthy and had assets seized by Castrol
They wanted a regime change
The other side of the coin is many ex-pats have relatives on the Island and know their lives suffered because of the regime & the embargo
You will never please everyone
You betHoly shit. It's 2014 and someone is still worried about the spread of communism.
It is more dangerous than the the spread of Ebola
You're a moron.You bet
It is more dangerous than the the spread of Ebola
Actually the useless embargo didn't do any of that (stop the spread of communism). Instead it was efforts like the anti-communist "counter-insurgency training" offered by the United States Army School of the Americas to various (and often murderous) Latin American governments that kept communism from spreading through the Western Hemisphere.. Many of the graduates of this school went on to become soldiers used by ruthless dictators (far worse than Castro), or actually became dictators themselves (General Roberto Viola, General Leopoldo Galtieri, General Hugo Banzer Suarez, General Guillermo Rodriguez, General Efrain Rios Montt, etc.,.). In one case some soldier type graduates rounded up a bunch of Jesuit Priests in El Salvador and murdered them (along with a housekeeper and her daughter), the soldiers did this because the Priests were simply labelled as "subversives" by their governments.. But fuck.. At least these soldiers weren't supporting the COMMIES..Absolutely
There will never be a threat of communism emanating from Cuba again
Cuba tried it and it failed miserably despite being propped up by the Ussr for 30 years
You obviously don't even know what initiated the embargo in the 1st place,...commies,...
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Once again you show yourself to be a self made idiot, always looking at the dark side of thingsActually the useless embargo didn't do any of that (stop the spread of communism). Instead it was efforts like the anti-communist "counter-insurgency training" offered by the United States Army School of the Americas to various (and often murderous) Latin American governments that kept communism from spreading through the Western Hemisphere.. Many of the graduates of this school went on to become soldiers used by ruthless dictators (far worse than Castro), or actually became dictators themselves (General Roberto Viola, General Leopoldo Galtieri, General Hugo Banzer Suarez, General Guillermo Rodriguez, General Efrain Rios Montt, etc.,.). In one case some soldier type graduates rounded up a bunch of Jesuit Priests in El Salvador and murdered them (along with a housekeeper and her daughter), the soldiers did this because the Priests were simply labelled as "subversives" by their governments.. But fuck.. At least these soldiers weren't supporting the COMMIES..
Latin America has always been a hotbed for ruthless animals who do not value human life
torture murder & an absence of human rights will be found in Latin America regardless of the political system
Is the USA totally virgin white wrt how they fought the commies ?
No way, some evil things were done (by both sides)
However this was war (a cold one)
Communism was defeated because the USA out spent the USSR on military technology
The USA allowed its capitalist system to spur technological innovation for profit
Risk takers developed technology with the goal of increasing wealth & the commies had no answer for that other than fear of exile to Siberia
Of coarse they tried stealing and copying technology but that only goes so far
In the end the flawed commie economy just could not keep pace & they had to throw in the towel
Do not think for a second the Chinese were not more than casual observers in this poker match, they too have come to the realization of what works best
While he did not come across as super intelligent it was Ronnie Reagan who dramatically increased the stakes and raise the anti in the game
Two terms in the office & Boris was crying uncle, begging Ronnie to take his foot off of the commie neck
Incentive & risk taking motivated by profit. It is what makes the world go round
I hope you finally learned something
You mean the wrong Fidel committed when he stool other peoples property & assets?No real changes are expected to be felt in Cuba in our lifetime.. This is only the beginning of the United States finally righting a wrong..
Time has already taken care of FidelCuba is/was a terrorist state under the Castros but sometimes one has to let bygones be bygones (like we did with Japan, Germany, Viernam). Time will get rid of the Castros.
He has not been seen in public in quite some time (> a year ???)
My guess is dementia and hence the reason for re-establishing ties with the US
They need proctor & Gamble in order to get some quality adult diapers for Fidel as his standard Camouflage Kakis are chafing him
Sure are a lot of American corporation lining up to work in Cuba (and I guess that means lots of right wing Americans are happy about Obama's policy shift).No real changes are expected to be felt in Cuba in our lifetime.. This is only the beginning of the United States finally righting a wrong..
Really cant get how anyone except for the radical Cuban exiles or Jack D. Ripper thinking this is a bad thing.
Actually I was referring to the years the USA spent propping up a murderous thug (Batista), simply because that thug allowed American corporations to rape Cuba for all it was worth.. Only to then turn around and scream "NO FAIR" when the people took up arms and rebelled against him (and then took back what they rightfully felt was theirs)..You mean the wrong Fidel committed when he stool other peoples property & assets?
Fidel Castro isn't a saint by any stretch.. But the revolution wasn't a result of him "fooling" the majority of Cubans..
I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear. - John F. Kennedy
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Glad to see you've dropped your moronic argument that the embargo is what stopped the spread of communism..Communism was defeated because the USA out spent the USSR on military technology
Just a little info for ya,...this originated with the commies setting up missile sites in Cuba,...Glad to see you've dropped your moronic argument that the embargo is what stopped the spread of communism..
Just how the hell would you respond to that,...???
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Just a little info for ya.. The embargo began in 1960. In February of 1962 the embargo was extended to almost all imports. The Cuban Missile Crisis didn't happen until October of 1962. The embargo was NOT the result of the Cuban Missile Crisis.Just a little info for ya,...this originated with the commies setting up missile sites in Cuba,...
Just how the hell would you respond to that,...???
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The embargo was initiated due to communist support and influence in Cuba, which was brought to a head when the US showed proof of missile installations.Just a little info for ya.. The embargo began in 1960. In February of 1962 the embargo was extended to almost all imports. The Cuban Missile Crisis didn't happen until October of 1962. The embargo was NOT the result of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The whole issue was military build up in Cuba by a communist country,...
If the military build up was done by any western ally,...no embargo.
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That's what they said about Soviet Russia and then, one day, poof and it was gone. And the same will be in Cuba. Communism needs no embargo, arms race or sanctions. It only needs enough time to demonstrate to its victims how idiotic and vile it really is. It takes some peoples a bit longer, that's all.No real changes are expected to be felt in Cuba in our lifetime.. This is only the beginning of the United States finally righting a wrong..
