Hillary lost the popular vote.
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OnTheWayOut
I think the major flaw in your argument is using the word "won". Hillary won nothing except early retirement. The way to win the Presidency is to get the most electoral votes, she did not do that so she won nothing. You can say more people voted for her, but she didn't win anything. Winning and Hillary seem to be dissimilar items.
Exactly. oldjones is talking about a fictional competition. How can you "win" the popular vote when nobody was competing for the popular vote???
She got a fraction of 1% more votes but didn't win anything at all.
Why are fuji and oldjones in denial about Clinton's brutal loss?
60 million ordinary voters rejected him or voted for him?
That number speaks for itself.
As we know, the GOP is a party in decline due to demographics. The fact that Trump got MORE votes than any other Republican candidate in history speaks volumes. He was cast as Hitler!
Clinton is right where she belongs, unpopular as ever, and soon-to-be forgotten.
Practically nobody knew who Obama was before he began running President but his likability and media exposure turned him into an instant worldwide celebrity. If you have the media behind you, hundreds of millions of dollars showered on you for your campaign, and a bit of talent, you can could get more votes than Clinton did. LOL
I love these posts. You start cheering because Trump got more popular votes than Bush but suddenly don't care about popular vote when he is outdone by Obama and even Hillary.
It is surprising that the least popular candidate ever beat the second least popular candidate.
Both had record low approval rates.
Bush, Obama, and Trump were competing for the same thing - the electoral college. The actual total number of votes is just a byproduct but not the focus of the campaigns. That Trump got a record share of votes is astonishing and interesting trivia. Did Clinton break any records? lol
I don't know what Hillary was competing for. The popular vote maybe?
And yet you were still bragging about total votes. When your candidate got less than the opposition you should either stick to bragging about electoral votes or continue to make yourself look bad.
You need to tell smallcock. "Hillary won the 'popular' vote" was his phrase, and I added the quote marks in my reply, to point out it was a dubious usage. You might also tell the OP that as no one 'win's the popular vote, likewise no one can lose it.
Whatever words you prefer: President-Elect Trump got fewer votes than his opponent, and she got more than anyone else. Do please stop trying to pick a fight over how one wins the the Presidency. It was never an issue, and that vote will be taken in December.
This election out of the way, if you want to talk about how a democracy is supposed to work …
Still counting those 3 million votes from mexico I see. She didn't win the popular vote amongst the legit American citizens. You guys are seriously kidding yourselves if you truly believe the illegals weren't voting their asses off in this election. The real numbers will come out after the big inauguration protest.
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**Sophie**
You must have missed this post from Kathleen in the media thread or do you purposely set yourself up to be constantly corrected?
P.S Obama is a Democrat
More nonsense. The popular vote actually determines which Electors are chosen. That makes their subsequent vote — after the rigging process of Winner Take All is applied — the byproduct of the general election. So every campaign is focussed on maximizing the vote, and every campaign tries to spread that vote across enough states with enough Electoral votes to win. Trump succeeded and won. Changes nothing. More people wanted her to be President than him.
Are you ever going to stop re-fighting the election, and actually deal with the reality that fewer people wanted Trump as President than the person who lost? That is what America and the rest of us have to deal with for the next four years. An undemocratically elected leader for the free world.
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The Irrelevant Record Nonsense: Beating Bush II's popular vote by 757 may be a big deal to Republicans, but it's hardly a record, barely a score (anyone who cares can see the numbers in the **Sophie** post 158 above, and do the easy arithmetic). But wait! aren't you the guy claiming popular votes are meaningless? I think that was your word. So either this 'record' is meaningless, or Hillary's vote is at least as important as invented plurality of Donny's. And I'm dying to hear just how you compare her million plus with his 757?
You might also remember that between BushII and Trump, the USA added ten of fifteen million new voters to the population, roughly half of them probably Republicans. So out of five to seven million new Republican voters since BushII, Donny picked up just 757?
Oh yeah, you asked if Hillary broke any records: Clearly she beat Trump's 'record' margin over Bush by more than a million. And that means she also beat Gore's total (In case you forgot, he also beat Bush. By a lot more than 757.)
Some record.
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Election's over, it's not your fault your guy won it by a rigged system; time to get back to improving the world and give up re-fighting dead issues so poorly.
It is like oldjones whining about his team losing the Stanley Cup finals 4 games to 3 when they outscored the other team 30 to 29 in popular goals.
You are ignoring the fact the media was coordinating with the Clinton campaign. Take out the media bashing Trump 24/7 and you will see the real picture in an media neutral race. The media wouldnt even cover the Wikileaks lol. They went bananas over the Trump tape and the Tax returns.
What, you don't think Mexican American's should have the vote?
Very alt-right of you.
Your idea of "neutral" is a racist site like Breitbart. You think the media wasn't neutral because they reported honestly on Trump.
Wikileaks got lots of coverage. So did the FBI's intervention into the election--it dominated the news.
You just don't like that they also covered the truth about Trump as well.
