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FBI investigating death of suspect after Minneapolis police officer put knee on neck

Smallcock

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My father was ex-military. Naturally, some of his very close friends were other soldiers he served with and trusted.

One of these friends, a very bright and aware gentleman, was of great interest to the police community. Their attempts to recruit him went unreciprocated time and time again. He did go to many interviews to hear them out and express his viewpoints on law enforcement.

When I was in my early 20's, I had lunch with him and my Father in NYC. As we walked to the restaurant, we saw 2 police officers belittling a group of men who were clearly of middle eastern heritage. I don't know what the deal was but the immigrant men were clearly scared mindless.

As we sat for lunch, my father's friend said this to me which I'll never forget: "A Custodian of Peace (COP) who has been charged with protecting the morals, ethics and laws of any society, specially carrying a firearm, should have a certain level of education. It's too much responsibility for a lowbrow person".

Every time I see these episodes of police violence on TV, such as Minneapolis, these words always ring round and true.

He went on to say: "Ideally, officers would have a B.A. in sociology. This would solve a world of problems. Truthfully, this will never happen. It's a pipe dream. The vast majority of applicants to police forces don't have the discipline to obtain a university degree and society would have a severe shortage of LE officers. Too many of them come from low income backgrounds and already have a bias towards minorities in society. Being 'caucasian' is the only worth they can find within themselves. Ex military is also a problem as they rely on hierarchy to absolve them of any wrong doing since they can fall back on the "I was just following orders" mentality. Training isn't enough, education is what's needed. This will never happen though. Things will only get worse."

As a young man hearing these things, I hoped for the best.

It's clear that my Father's friend was absolutely correct and I see why he never accepted any work in the Law Enforcement Community. He retired a successful and content man.
Your father's friend is a jackass.

First, having a university degree in sociology doesn't make you a good person, and that's the crux of incidents like this (this is common sense but if you want evidence of it check out all the highly educated Karen's calling cops on black men). Secondly, the general public often misinterprets events and what's required to keep the peace, as well as the difficulty in split second decisions that must be made in dangerous situations.
 

Smallcock

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I only ever had 3 encounters with cops. No bad experiences to report. I don't mess with them and they don't mess with me. It's not complicated.
Correct, and that's why the millions of interactions between police and the public don't get any news coverage. They're polite, responsive, helpful.

You're more likely to catch and die of covid as a young adult than get beat up or die at the hands of a cop.
 

Smallcock

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Smallcock, when did you decide to go all lib on us?
High integrity, morals, values, and law & order are hallmarks of conservatism. You should try it.
 

Valcazar

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I always thought "COP" was "Constable on Patrol". Origin in the U.K.
Acronyms as words only starts becoming popular after WWII. (Or during, I guess.)

If someone tells you a word comes from an acronym and it is older than that, they are almost certainly wrong.

Cop means to capture and one who captures is a copper. People just shortened copper back to cop.
 

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You know what I just realized that I dont think has been mentioned. Why didnt the EMTs do CPR? They did not even do any sort of assessment on him and just carried him away like cleanup crew.

I dont think they were negligent it really depends what they were told and what they thought when they approached the scene but in retrospect they should have done a full assesment of his airway and circulation and started CPR on the scene. I would also even put a collar on him since there was 200lbs on his neck for 7 min lol
 

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I don't know what the hell kind of training american cops get, but always seem to use excessive force way more then our Canadian men in blue. Like I used to watch cops a lot, and yes sometimes the force was necessary, but other times I would see situations where they clearly had the suspect contained but do shit like this. Maybe because face more dangerous situations then the average Canadian cop??? I don't know, but I mean logic tells you the suspect was no longer a threat. Get him off the ground and throw him the fucking of the cruiser already. If you weren't comfortable doing that, get your fucking knee off his next for a bit and see what happens.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Wow, I just saw the video right now and that cop should be charged with 1st degree murder.

That was tough to watch :blue:
 

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basketcase

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okay I just watched the video.

so many people who like to arm chair quarter back.

the video fails to show the incident prior to the containment.

the suspect resisted arrest as per another members post. ....
The resisting does give the right to put his knee on the guy's neck to restrain him. Instead, the cop kept pressure of on the neck for several minutes after the guy was cuffed and had stopped moving. The cop may not have intended to kill the guy but he did.

There is a reason MMA officials are so quick to break chokes after a tap or loss of consciousness instead of waiting a couple minutes to make sure.
 

basketcase

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Terb has reached a new low. Some of you are actually defending this.
The victim is black. What would you expect from some of these guys. Next we'll see them posting that he bit his babysitter when he was 1 so he deserved it as a career criminal.
 

mandrill

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Now major rioting and looting in Minneapolis. Target and Auto Zone looted and burning. Projectiles fired at police and police firing rubber bullets.
 

Smallcock

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The fact that the cop didn't try immediately when he realized he went too far speaks volumes.
Excellent point. Cops are trained in CPR and that should have been his first reaction.
 

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GameBoy27

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this is a tactic that is used in the law and security field. it immobilizes the suspect. while the practice can control the suspect it can also cause injury. while suspects may scream or complain they are being hurt the problem is that many suspects will use this tactic to guilt officers into releasing them when in fact they may not be experiencing any pain.

this has nothing to do with racism. this technique has been used for years by law enforcement.

this is the media/society pulling the racism card.
Not according to Police officials I've heard interviewed. But by all means, prove me wrong.
 

wigglee

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this is a tactic that is used in the law and security field. it immobilizes the suspect. while the practice can control the suspect it can also cause injury. while suspects may scream or complain they are being hurt the problem is that many suspects will use this tactic to guilt officers into releasing them when in fact they may not be experiencing any pain.

this has nothing to do with racism. this technique has been used for years by law enforcement.

this is the media/society pulling the racism card.
It was murder and of course this cop was on stage with Trump at a rally in Minneapolis a while back. They had handcuffs on him and could easily have bound his feet and let him breathe.
 
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