Like wearing a condom, wearing a mask is just common sense

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Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
There is no evidence of transmission from free-floating viral particles. The transmission is from respiratory droplets and aerosols, the smallest of which are in the 5 um range.
...and surgical masks filter down to 1um.
"The surgical mask blocked about 60% of .03 micron particles and over 90% of 1 micron and 2.5 micron particles."


"in one study, researchers tested particles down to .007 microns (even smaller than viruses) and found that a simple surgical mask blocked 80%."

"... it’s downright surprising that surgical masks are just as effective [as N95 masks]! Maybe virus particles are actually easy to capture because they fly on water droplets.

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/n95-mask-surgical-prevent-transmission-coronavirus/?rel=1
 

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See post#12, #13, #15.

The horse already left the barn.

Even if you want mask now. THere no mask available to buy anyway.

Worldwide shortage of mask !!

RIght now all mask being produced are going to governments which they are purchasing for the Frontline health Worker "

PS So stop shaming or lying to the public from wearing face mask to protect their own health due to all governments ( left or right) screwup in the first place!!

PPS I like my lungs & testicle don't want any damages causes by covic-19. Look at Japan and South Korea , and Singapore all their population wear face mask And N95 masks also.


How do we beat covic-19 ?

Bottom line everyone wear a MASKS.

Go to video 22:38



Yes, Governments & fuckup on planning for pandemics ... if government haven't spend billions of dollars on climate changes/ aka " global warming ' in the first place . If they just bought N-95 masks and or surgery facemask for everyone in the face place then Canada ( also rest of the world) would not be in deep shit!

Yes Frontline workers do need the N-95 mask more, but don't shame the public from not wearing the mask first place because of the all left & right government( previous, past , present) fuckup in the first place by not preparing for a pandemic in first place and not stock piling N95 mask.

N95 mask should be in a emergency kit that we prepared at home in advance.

Bottomline
Yes mask do help greatly.
Mask shortage? You are on the internet, right? Is there an issue with your credit card?
 

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In Asian countries, mask-wearing has been common since 2003 sars. I can see some of the reasons behind the anti-mask, it's a cultural belief thing, Muslim women are forced to cover their faces so White Christians won't wear a mask, heck even some Mulism men are anti-mask they believe it's only for women. In western society, mask-wearing is associated with bank robbers and villains. Sure it is also political, anti-masker side with Trump as they see Biden encouraging masks. And then those who see it as vanity thing, some people think they are so good looking they don't want to wear a mask, it makes them look stupid and unattractive.
 
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I just keep it simple, if you don't want to wear a mask - no issue on my end, that doesn't mean I won't. I will always wear one now when I go out in public - meaning like in retails shops , indoor gatherings when they open up etc.
 

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From the article:

Even with masks on, as with smoking, those who are in the vicinity are heavily affected by the secondhand smoke that makes its way around the enclosed area and lingers

Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
False. As my other posts to you have revealed, surgical masks are highly effective. Even the article you refer to says masks work. So even it disagrees with your statement that "Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed".

Many places - stores, businesses, clinics, homes - one goes to do not have this "secondhand (covid) smoke(/droplets/aerosols)" saturating it everywhere or even necessarily present at all or to any significant extent. Moreover in time, even if present, it would dissipate, fall to the floor, get stuck somewhere, lose its potency, die, etc.

You've provided no evidence that covid particles are like smoke from cigarettes that can saturate a room and infect people as easily as secondhand cigarette smoke enters a person. If that were the case, wouldn't we be seeing far more infections. We do know, however, that covid is released from people in large or small droplets that are big enough that they are usually blocked by cloth, surgical and N95 masks, thus making the mask wearer & those around him much safer.
 

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How's this for a study? Only 72 years of data.

"In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) "

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

1) That study is re influenza, not covid19.

2) The url refers to the CDC who have supported the use of face masks re covid19, at least for the unvaccinated, as a measure that saves lives.

3) The study itself states: "A pooled analysis of 2 studies in university residential halls reported a marginally significant protective effect of a combination of hand hygiene plus face masks worn by all residents...Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.... In theory, transmission should be reduced the most if both infected members and other contacts wear masks...as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched.

4) With the exception of one reference to 2018, all mask references were from 2013 and earlier. Quite out of date with more recent studies since 2020.

5) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: a systematic review

Abstract


Influenza viruses circulate around the world every year. From time to time new strains emerge and cause global pandemics. Many national and international health agencies recommended the use of face masks during the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) pandemic. We reviewed the English-language literature on this subject to inform public health preparedness. There is some evidence to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission. There are fewer data to support the use of masks or respirators to prevent becoming infected. Further studies in controlled settings and studies of natural infections in healthcare and community settings are required to better define the effectiveness of face masks and respirators in preventing influenza virus transmission.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20092668/
 

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"Hong Kong was relatively unscathed by the first wave of the COVID-19 outbreak and had a flatter epidemic curve than most other places, which observers consider remarkable given its status as an international transport hub. Furthermore, its proximity to China and its millions of mainland visitors annually would make it vulnerable.[2] Some experts now believe the habit of wearing masks in public since the SARS epidemic of 2003 may have helped keep its confirmed infections at 845, with four deaths, by the beginning of April.[2] In a study published in April 2020 in the Lancet, the authors expressed their belief that border restrictions, quarantine and isolation, social distancing, and behavioural changes such as wearing masks likely all played a part in the containment of the disease up to the end of March.[3] Others attributed the success to critical thinking of citizens who have become accustomed to distrusting the competence and political motivations of the government, the World Health Organization, and the Chinese Communist Party.[4] "

 

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Name one place where there wasn't a mask mandate where cases rose faster than India.

What would be the point. Recent infection numbers rising in India is probably because of a number of factors i've already listed, including more infectious VOC, high density populations, covidiocy rising, irresponsible lifting of restrictions after things improved as a result of the restrictions, low numbers vaccinated, etc. If it weren't for masks, things would be even worse.

What has often happened during the pandemic is when infections rose extreme safety measures were recommended or mandated to stop the rising wave of infections. In many cases that included masks. If the wave of infections continued rising for a time after a mask mandate, that was not because masks are not effective, but because the powerful unstoppable wave was already in motion. Without the mask mandate the wave would have been even worse.

Likewise a powerful unstoppable storm may be coming to a Florida beach area. Putting up some protection on your dwelling will often spare it some damage. Without that protection the storm damage is more likely to be even worse.

This post above & below explains why graphs being posted by covidiots with infection numbers & mask mandates are worthless as regards the question of the efficacy of masks in reducing infection numbers & hospitalizations and deaths from covid19.

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"If you think that & your graphs provide any proof re whether or not masks work to save lives, then you are a clueless ignorant covidiot. But why else would you post them without any comment except a silly laughing icon. In so doing it just suggests you are a silly ignoramous.

As i have stated repeatedly before, infection numbers vary & are a result of many different factors, such as numbers tested, population density, individual immune systems, irresponsible covidiocy numbers, mask wearing, social distancing, lockdowns, numbers in poorly ventilated areas, the type of virus (VOC) circulating, numbers vaccinated, numbers recovered from infection with antibodies & other factors.

So you can't just look at one factor, e.g. alleged mask usage, & draw any valid conclusions based on infection numbers as to whether or not masks save lives."
 
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