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HaHa!!!!! Unfortunately for him the team has changed plans. They told him to go directly to Detroit due to travel concerns. My guess is they are trying to keep him away from that deep dish pizza.
lol oh great now he’s going to be all alone in Greektown or close to Buddy’s Pizza.

i’ll be there too…..also to get his autograph.
 

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Jays sweep the double header. Lots of heroes. Everybody contributed. We're back in a playoff position.

And we have our "ace" going tomorrow.
 

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I enjoyed watching yesterday's sweep. The way they won the 1st game in extra innings was a lot of fun and very unusual. It does bother me though that they continue to make base running mistakes. Vladdy getting caught between 2nd and 3rd after hitting a double was the biggest mental blunder of all. He continues to make a lot of mental mistakes. They got away with it yesterday but that won't always be the case.

I do like the fact that Vladdy finally went the opposit way with an outside breaking pitch rather than try and pull it, which usually results in a ground ball to short or 3rd. That is how he hit in his big year and I hope he keeps it up.
 
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Hopefully Nate Pearson can turn into an 8th inning reliever, similar to what Duane Ward was to Tom Henke
 
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Hopefully Nate Pearson can turn into an 8th inning reliever, similar to what Duane Ward was to Tom Henke
Why?

1)They have Swanson for that.
2)He can pitch multiple innings (unlike Ward)
3)The last I heard is that the long term plan is to still make him a starter.
 

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I thought Manoah looked pretty good. He looked strong, and a touch more fit and energetic. I was at Comerica for Fridays game. I was able to watch the pitch clock and his rhythm at the same time. He was working fast and finding a rhythm with that. It was nice to see.

Mind you it’s the Tigers. But still, hopefully this is the sign of things to come..

Philip
 

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Hopefully Gausman will get the run support today as Manoah did last night, if there is a game, rain forecasted all day.
 

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It was a planned start against the Tigers for him, a confidence building game.
After giving up 11 runs in 2 2/3 innings to rookies only 2 games ago, there were no guarantees of building confidence against any MLB team.

I thought it was a risky move this early, but as I say, we are all outsiders and we are not privy to what goes on aside from what we see and hear on TV as opposed to management.

If he'd crapped out again, his confidence could have been absolutely crushed.
 

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This offense is unreal, score 12 runs yesterday, get no hit today, Gausman gets “Dave Stieb’d” again.
 

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Why?

1)They have Swanson for that.
2)He can pitch multiple innings (unlike Ward)
3)The last I heard is that the long term plan is to still make him a starter.
I don't disagree with your assessment of not turning Pearson into a 1 inning specialty reliever.

As an asdie, Ward could certainly go multiple innings like most pitchers from the 80's and early 90's . Relievers (and starters for that matter) were not babied like today team could run through the season with 10 man pitching staff and extra innings with no real issues.

Most pitchers today are close to 1:1 ratio.

The amount of innings Ward pitched between 88 and 92 is generally unheard of today for a reliever, and he was nothing special in that regard.

Games / Innings
1988 - 64 Games, 111 Innings
1989 - 66 Games, 114 Innings
1990 - 73 / 127
1991 - 81/107
1992 - 79 / 101

The ratio got less and less by 1991 and 1992 - that is the start of the period where managers started to slow down the innings for relievers.
 
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It was a planned start against the Tigers for him, a confidence building game.
Exactly

tigers are weak hitters and right hand batters heavy

they also have the ball park we should have built at a fraction of the cost of the freakin skydome
 
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I don't disagree with your assessment of not turning Pearson into a 1 inning specialty reliever.

As an asdie, Ward could certainly go multiple innings like most pitchers from the 80's and early 90's . Relievers (and starters for that matter) were not babied like today team could run through the season with 10 man pitching staff and extra innings with no real issues.

Most pitchers today are close to 1:1 ratio.

The amount of innings Ward pitched between 88 and 92 is generally unheard of today for a reliever, and he was nothing special in that regard.

Games / Innings
1988 - 64 Games, 111 Innings
1989 - 66 Games, 114 Innings
1990 - 73 / 127
1991 - 81/107
1992 - 79 / 101

The ratio got less and less by 1991 and 1992 - that is the start of the period where managers started to slow down the innings for relievers.
I guess memory fades with time. I recalled him as the 8th inning set-up guy, but clearly he was not simply a 1 inning guy. Maybe his role got more specialized closer to the time when Henke was getting near the end of his time.
 
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