If this war goes on for a year or so I wonder how many pages of posts we'll be at in this terb thread? 
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Gee Frankfooter. Weren't the 2 hostages released? Oh I see. You're quoting Al Jazeera, a notoriously unbiased source lol
The more of your posts I read the more I lose respect for you. You're as myopic as I used to be before my cataract operation...
I doubt the release of hostages (its not going to happen, maybe a few more) is going to stop Israel from going into Gaza to get rid of ham ass, this time they went too far killing 1300 Israelis. Israel can't let this happen again in the future.From NBCNews.com
"Qatar's strategy: Convince Hamas that freeing hostages is the only way to avert all-out war
Story by Keir Simmons and Chantal Da Silva • 5h
Qatar played a central role in securing the surprise release Friday of an American mother and daughter held hostage by Hamas. Now that Judith Raanan and her daughter, Natalie, are free, negotiators in Qatar hope that the release of more captives by Hamas “could lead to wider dialogue or mediation,” aimed at averting a full-scale war, a diplomat with knowledge of the talks told NBC News on Saturday.
There were “ups and downs” during the discussions, said the diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly. Ultimately the American mother and daughter walked free because negotiators were able to convince Hamas that the unconditional release of two hostages could serve as a confidence building measure.
After the release of the two women, President Joe Biden thanked “the government of Qatar and the government of Israel for their partnership in this work,” in a statement.
Mamoun Fandy, the president of the London Global Strategy Institute, a think tank based in the British capital, said the successful hostage negotiation with Hamas allowed Qatar to show it is “the hub of diplomacy in this crisis.”
The freeing of the two Americans is the latest in a series of diplomatic initiatives by the small, oil-rich Persian Gulf state. Qatar recently helped negotiate a prisoner exchange between the US and Iran, as well the release of four Ukrainian children from Russia.
It also hosted peace talks with the Taliban before the American withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021. But Qatar’s history of sheltering Hamas’ political leaders could complicate its effort to present itself to Israel as a mediator.
Judith and Natalie Raanan had been staying on a kibbutz called Nahal Oz, in southern Israel, before they were captured by Hamas in its massive terrorist attack on Oct. 7. After 13 days in captivity, the pair were greeted at the Gaza border on Friday by Israeli Brig. Gen. Gal Hirsch and taken to a military base where they were reunited with relatives.
The diplomat said that negotiators are now hopeful that if more hostages are freed, it could clear a path to wider talks about getting humanitarian aid into Gaza, home to 2 million Palestinians. They also hope that it sets the conditions for broader talks that could limit the Israeli military operation in Gaza to one that targets Hamas' leadership and averts a full Israeli occupation of the coastal strip.
The diplomat said that Qatar has been urging Hamas to free its hostages. “The Israelis have been clear they are not willing to talk until all the hostages are released. So it may be better for Hamas to release them faster because that may lead to wider dialogue or mediation."
But Eldad Shavit, a senior researcher at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, cautioned that the release of the two hostages was “probably a manipulation” by Hamas.
“My assumption is that Hamas is conducting a military operation and also a political campaign,” said Shavit, who has served senior roles in Israeli defense intelligence and the prime minister’s office. He added that he thought Hamas was hoping to put pressure on both the international community and Israel "not to proceed with plans, military plans.”
Whether that will be possible is doubtful, according to Michael Horowitz, the head of intelligence at Le Beck International, a security and risk management consultancy. Many Israelis, given the killing of more than 1,000 civilians by Hamas in the Oct. 7 terrorist attacks, will argue that a full-scale ground invasion that ends with the complete destruction of Hamas is the only acceptable outcome.
While Qatar was “proving to be a key ally of the U.S. and fending off criticism related to their decision to keep hosting senior Hamas leaders,” Horowitz said the images and testimonies of the attack were too fresh in the memories of Israelis.
“The best shot everyone has to lower the flames is to push for two parallel tracks, namely the release of hostages on one hand, and on the other the entry of much-needed humanitarian aid in Gaza,” Horowitz said. “This is a sensible strategy, though I would say the chances of avoiding some form of Israeli incursion are still low.”
This article was originally published on NBCNews.com"
The guy wearing the robe looks like he's waving a ISIS flag.
Not surprised really, as millions of Muslims love ISIS.
Here is a source that’s even more biased. But the way you like it.Gee Frankfooter. Weren't the 2 hostages released? Oh I see. You're quoting Al Jazeera, a notoriously unbiased source lol
The more of your posts I read the more I lose respect for you. You're as myopic as I used to be before my cataract operation...
Hamas claims Israel declined to receive two hostages | The Jerusalem Post
210 hostages remain in Gaza after being kidnapped from Israeli territory on October 7.
www.jpost.com
This guy is on angel dust 
he claims they don't target non -combatants. I guess those children and grandmas they killed and kidnapped were Israeli commandos.
Mashaal: Hamas ‘well aware of consequences’ of attack, liberation demands ‘sacrifices’
Questioned by critical Saudi interviewer citing ‘Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians,’ terror group’s former leader falsely claims it doesn’t target non-combatants
In an interview, Hamas official Khaled Mashal said the terror group is “well aware of the consequences” of its brutal October 7 attack on Israel, insisted his group — which massacred some 1,000 civilians in the assault — does not target non-combatants, and said Palestinians will need to sacrifice lives in order to “liberate” themselves from Israel.
Mashal, the former political leader of Hamas and still a senior leader in the terror organization, made the comments in an often combative interview on Wednesday with the Saudi-based Al-Arabiya news network.
Host Rasha Nabil asked Mashal if he could continue to fly the flag of “resistance” to Israel as the world watched “Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians” throughout southern Israeli communities.
www.timesofisrael.com
he claims they don't target non -combatants. I guess those children and grandmas they killed and kidnapped were Israeli commandos.Mashaal: Hamas ‘well aware of consequences’ of attack, liberation demands ‘sacrifices’
Questioned by critical Saudi interviewer citing ‘Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians,’ terror group’s former leader falsely claims it doesn’t target non-combatants
In an interview, Hamas official Khaled Mashal said the terror group is “well aware of the consequences” of its brutal October 7 attack on Israel, insisted his group — which massacred some 1,000 civilians in the assault — does not target non-combatants, and said Palestinians will need to sacrifice lives in order to “liberate” themselves from Israel.
Mashal, the former political leader of Hamas and still a senior leader in the terror organization, made the comments in an often combative interview on Wednesday with the Saudi-based Al-Arabiya news network.
Host Rasha Nabil asked Mashal if he could continue to fly the flag of “resistance” to Israel as the world watched “Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians” throughout southern Israeli communities.
Mashaal: Hamas ‘well aware of consequences’ of attack, liberation demands ‘sacrifices’
Questioned by critical Saudi interviewer citing 'Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians,' terror group's former leader falsely claims it doesn't target non-combatants
www.timesofisrael.com
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This is from last December. Imagine dealing with this type of injustice, bullying, and humiliation daily.
Proper leadership can end most of the problems we're witnessing within a day. But stupid men with big egos won't make the right choices.
Proper leadership can end most of the problems we're witnessing within a day. But stupid men with big egos won't make the right choices.
No water, food or power in Gaza.If this war goes on for a year or so I wonder how many pages of posts we'll be at in this terb thread?
2.2 million people would likely be dead in another month.
B'tselem keeps a database of settler attacks.
Its interesting how there's a shortage of everything in Gaza except for rockets.
American Media: Innocent black kid shot dead by police for no good reason
Americans & Canadians: Outrage! Injustice!
Palestinians: My kid has been shot in the back and killed by Israeli soldiers for no good reason!
American Media: Silence
Americans & Canadians: Who gives a fuck about those Aye-rabs. Israel is our ally! Send more money!
How can any thinking person expect peace in this situation?
Americans & Canadians: Outrage! Injustice!
Palestinians: My kid has been shot in the back and killed by Israeli soldiers for no good reason!
American Media: Silence
Americans & Canadians: Who gives a fuck about those Aye-rabs. Israel is our ally! Send more money!
How can any thinking person expect peace in this situation?
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The asymmetry in coverage and outrage speaks volumes about our media and the levers of power here.
The list that you posted is detailed but people don't respond to words. They need to see this stuff in video. They need to be bombarded with it the way mass media bombards us with whatever narrative they're pushing.
So ceasefire already and stop the stupid genocide.
100,000 protested for Palestine in London today.
100,000
You're backing genocide.
This won’t last a year. Israel can’t sustain this. They can’t maintain 300k extra troops or carry the burden of missing 300k workers from the economy. The West Bank will explode and Hezbollah will continuously bleed them from the north.
One thing is for sure….they will be looking for handouts from the US.
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Its true.
2021 as a repeat of this year, settler terrorist attacks followed by hundreds of settlers storming the Al Aqsa and Hamas responding.
Same pattern that's been going on for decades.
Its the occupation.
We all know Jews were always against genocide of Palestinians, now If you can only get Hamas and Islamic Jihad , the real perpetrators to stop the genocide of Palestinians.
Israel let in some trucks for the press today.
Enough water for 22,000 for one day.
There are 2.2 million people there with no water.
