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Israel at war

joetheman

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Frankie you can believe whatever you wish but you are wrong. I do not have any skin in the game. I do not have any Arab blood or Jewish blood in me, I only look at it as an outsider and what I see is Gaza under Hamas presenting itself as a threat and I would not feel safe in Israel knowing I have neighbors that want to hurt and kill me.

At this point, because I am not like you and want to spend every minute in this thread I will say no more for now. I'll pop in again when I'm bored but for now, I rather rag on Trump and decide on who I'm going to stick little Squeezie into this weekend.
The problem is that Palestinians have never had safety of their own. They're denied the right to exist as normal human beings by Israel. So they resist, with the intent to make Israel feel unsafe like they do every day.

Without a firm solution that gives Palestinians their freedom to exist, you cannot have peace. Dropping bombs and shooting each other doesn't create peace. It creates the next generation of recruits.
 
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shack

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So you admit that the entire world, except for Biden and Trudeau, are against your genocide and are just bragging that they haven't yet taken serious action against it?
Those countries already hated Israel.

The world will take action.
How long will that take, and in that time how many more Gazans would die? You support that?

If you are so concerned about saving Gazan lives, which you clearly don't, you would call for Hamas to surrender and give up the hostages and in the meantime the world can still take whatever action they want. It's a win:win:win:lose.

Gazans win by stopping their suffering immediately. The hostages win by getting released. The world wins by stopping a war that can keep growing into a larger regional conflict and be able to take these actions against Israel.

THE ONLY LOSER IS HAMAS, who even you said is a terrorist organization and should be tried for war crimes at the ICC. I guess you could be considered a loser since you're virtually an honourable member as well.

My course of action makes much more sense. You course of action makes much more spilled blood. It's undeniable.
 
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Butler1000

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Israel isn't defending itself. Right now, they are collectively punishing Palestinians and possibly grabbing some real estate. Their defence ended Oct 7.

BTW did you watch the video of Bibi I linked yesterday? Do you really think he cares or will stop because of the US based on that?
Yes they are. Imagine if the Palestinians had been good neighbors there might be a trade pact instead of this.
 
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Butler1000

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All this whining reminds me of when the Tamil Tigers were on their last legs. That's why its seems so desperate. The protestors know how bad Hamas fucked up, know there is no going back, and is hoping an outside force will stop it.

Notice how lots of words but not a single soldier, ship, plane or other military option is travelling to assist them? The world is going to let this happen.

How does it feel to know the Palestinians are regarded with such indifference?
 
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Knuckle Ball

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All this whining reminds me of when the Tamil Tigers were on their last legs. That's why its seems so desperate. The protestors know how bad Hamas fucked up, know there is no going back, and is hoping an outside force will stop it.

Notice how lots of words but not a single soldier, ship, plane or other military option is travelling to assist them? The world is going to let this happen.

How does it feel to know the Palestinians are regarded with such indifference?
It’s not really a choice, though, is it? How would other nations get soldiers, aid, or anything else into Gaza at this point?
 

Butler1000

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It’s not really a choice, though, is it? How would other nations get soldiers, aid, or anything else into Gaza at this point?
Well lets see, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon share borders with Israel.

Seriously though its been a month+ . If they wanted to help they would have. Best that has occured is a few rockets and skirmishes from Lebanon and Yemen(Iran backed forces)
 
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