Israel at war
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You are correct. Both sides will not budge. Both sides want the other gone. By what ever means. There will not be a one state or two state solution. Just a winner or a loser. That's the way Both sides want it.
Feel free to pick a side, but don't expect reason and peace to ever be a factor in the outcome.
This is not accurate. Obviously anyone would want their bad neighbour to leave forever. But meanwhile israel is trying to preserve the status quo and is basically satisfied with it (not counting settler violence which is def fucked up) while the other side is trying to change it and is actively using violence against civilians while doing so.
Don’t tell me they are the same.
You are not paying attention in the West Bank.
Hey I'm on Israel's side. I consider them a far better Western Ally. And will negotiate peace treaties with neighboring nations. But let's not call it out. They are encroaching and baiting them. The Palestinians are too stubborn, stupid and religiously directed to not become the author of their own demise as well. It's a shitshow with recent 75 years and before that thousands more of wanting absolute control of the area and expelling each other, happily using violence.
Israel will likely win. No one in the region likes the Palestinians. Not after allying with Iran. Stupid move to be Sunni but ally with Shia Muslims. And with US/Saudi relations good it means game over.
What territory were Jews in control of during the Holocaust. There was no Jewish state to defend?
What international aid was coming in expressly intended for Jews?
What governing body of Jews existed that had militias?
What rockets did other countries supply to the Jewish militias?
Your attempt to try to compare the Holocaust to the situation in Gaza is extremely fucked up and further proof that you're a good old-fashioned Jew hater.
He called your bluff and you failed.
You don't give a shit about the Gazans. Hating Jews is your only motivation.
So why have the great majority of this vast world done not a single thing to attempt to stop tiny Israel in this conflict. They don't even want to take in any Pali refugees.
Actually, it proves that the great majority of the world really doesn't care about the Palis. All they do is shout but unfortunately for you actions talk louder than words and zero actions have been taken.
radicalized people are as desirable as radioactive waste. Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon have learned it the hard way.
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Brain dead.
You missed the point completely.
Jewish exceptionalism as usual proving you're a good old fashioned Jewish supremacist.
That's all you're good for, screaming Jew hater, anti-Semite.
Those words mean NOTHING....ZERO.
Those words have been weaponized to the point that no one gives a shit.
They only give supremacists like you an excuse for your inhumanity.
Really, they mean nothing.
I don't know if you're really this stupid, or just doing your disgusting schtick.
U.S military.
The fact that you can actually ask this question shows what an idiot you are.
It's not on the world to take in the Palestinians, it's on your zionist buddies to get the fuck out of Gaza and the West Bank.
I never expected reason or peace, we had this discussion at the outset.
I said from the beginning this was a done deal.
Nobody has to like it or accept the moral justification for it though.
You're wrong on one account.
Israel wants this, they've wanted this from the very beginning.
45% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide.
The useful idiots are the ones backing genocide and thinking they are doing good.
I think there were a few that realized from the beginning it was inevitable this is where it would end up. And yes some wanted it. I think the majority initially just wanted a place to feel safe after the world had essentially turned their back.
Some Jews were trying to put this together pre WW 2 by buying up shitty property there(the locals were happy to sell it). But that would not have worked because they needed political and military support to really get it going. It's not like they came in strong. They were a very poor nation, had to have a lot of aid and socialist policy to get by. And in regular conflict.
Winning wars gave the nationalists the momentum to get where we are.
No I don't.
You want to me to come up with a specific list to try to argue my position is fixed.
Its not, that's the point.
You want me to put a price on my support, so you can declare a price for support of genocide.
That's your turf, your support for genocide comes with a price of just not being trump.
And again, you are trying to put a price on support for genocide and to try to argue how much genocide I can support.
You've agreed to support genocide for the price of not being rump.
I haven't.
Skoob like rebuttal, just declaring you are right when you can't answer.
Weak.
So now not backing genocide is a 'threat' to you.
Interesting.
Skoob like rebuttal.
Weak.
Biden is gone, that's a major success.
You argued everyone should back Biden because rump.
Skoob like rebuttal.
Weak.
I've nailed you by your own definition.
You don't care about rules based government, you just want your party in power.
Now you are arguing for violence against the 45% of Canadians who think Israel is committing genocide?
You want violence against people protesting against genocide.
That's very fascist like.
Unbelievable bigotry and double standards. You just took the usual WW2 Jewish narrative which you would portray as a story of Jewish victim hood and tried to repurpose the same events as a way to present Palestinians as worthless. You don’t have an ounce of integrity in you, shazi.
“So why have the great majority of this vast world done not a single thing to attempt to stop Germany in this conflict. They don't even want to take in any Jewish refugees.
Actually, it proves that the great majority of the world really doesn't care about the Jews. All they do is shout but unfortunately for you actions talk louder than words and zero actions have been taken.”
I hit it head on.
You compared the Holocaust to the the situation in Gaza and I showed how incomparable the 2 situations are. Of course your retort was nothing more than a personal attack and did not directly address my points.
Typical behaviour of an anti-Semite when your racist, BS, Holocaust minimizing rhetoric is called out.
Oh, fuck off with your bullshit numbers. 45% based on what? 2% of the Canadian population? Like the rest of your posts, full of shit!
You should wear the shoe because it is a perfect fit. When you make accusations and statements minimizing the Holocaust and I give valid, rational points and all you come back with ad hominem rants, you validate my accusations. It's rather pathetic yet entirely predictable.
Genocide, apartheid are words that have been weaponized.
