You guys don't feel like it's dehumanizing?if anybody breaks the law then they should be charged accordingly
that's what being treated equally means
I am taking about illegal immigrants who engage in drug or violent crime.Earlier you said that criminals should be deported. Every illegal immigrant is a criminal.
It is your opinion that I should be able to take up residence in any country on the planet illegally and be given a pathway to citizenship?
Families don't have to be ripped apart. They can all be deported together.
There is room for compromise.
Are you saying that from today forward, all new illegals should be deported?
Yes, the combo of losing Muslim, youth vote and those who couldn't vote for genocide cost Harris the election.Apart from Michigan do you have anything to say about all the other swing states Trump won?
WTF??That people dont have freedom at all in China is a Western myth designed to malign the nation as it is an economic rival.
a bit less / more?I agree there are human rights abuses committed by the Chinese government.
But western nations do it too.
Perhaps a bit less than China, but abuse is abuse.
This is where the discussion should have come to a full stopWithout freedoms there can be no economic success.
WrongThe Soviet Union is a good example of this.
They left behind economic ruin.
China is not in this category.
Again, no it does notThe fact there is economic success means there is freedom.
WTF ???May be not the freedoms of expression we have, but their people are okay with it.
No it is a very sad disaster and its just plain evilSo for all intents and purposes, China is a resounding and emphatic success story.
This thread is 'IN YOUR FACE LEFTIES...."just like to point out that
1. I am not angry at all
2. the only person that mentioned "hate" is you
3. the only person that mentioned "violence and segregation" is also you
but in order to offer an olive branch to you
I suggest that we all see ourselves first as human beings and take care of one another first
if any goverment can't solve basic issues of homelessness or hunger for all it's citizens
then they have no right to bring up more complex issues of different individual groups
So generally illegal immigrants commit less crime than citizens.How about an illegal that has been in the USA for decades then commits robbery or murder. Should they be deported or do they get to stay because they've "planted roots"?
You've been saying the same thing for years, how is this different?absolutely
payback is a bitch, isn't it
we are just finally saying ENOUGH !
sorry it offends you
It wont.You can physically secure a border all you want, but if policy exists that allow illegals to circumvent the law such as 'parole in place' then you only incentivize more illegal immigration.
And if there were no people at all in the country then there would be 0 crime.Irrelevant. If there were no illegal immigrants, they'd commit ZERO crime.
If an illegal commits murder, they should be deported, regardless of time spent living illegally in the country.
Your argument is essentially... 'the longer you've been breaking the law, the better the chances of you staying.'
Do you see the incentive this creates?
if you enter the country illegally you are a criminalBut you are! Deporting people who pays taxes and made their life here withoutbeing criminal,
I have looked at both sides of this and .... its an unresolvable quagmirewomen are being bullied online with "your body, my choice" litteraly everywhere,
I do not hate trans or lgbtq,trans and lgbtq are scared to walk in the street so yes, absolutely can we leave the hate aside?!
Which is why you strengthen border security and fix the immigration system to reduce illegal immigration.This isn't a rebuttal. It makes no sense. There is no country if there are no people.
But we don't have to accept illegal immigrants. If they cannot stay, they cannot commit crime whether they're here for a day or decades.
Nobody has a right to citizenship in another country by illegally crossing its border.
This is not a human rights issue. It's an issue of national sovereignty, security, and the rights, freedoms, and protections of citizens.
The crime, the devaluing of wages, and the culture of illegal immigrants impact everyone.
The cow farmer doesn't think that cow manure is affecting anyone and he doesn't even smell it. But everyone else far enough from his farm can smell the cow shit on him when he comes to visit.
You're the farmer. You're impacted without knowing it.
They tried this and were called racists for it. That was the real issue. Then Biden opened everything up.Which is why you strengthen border security and fix the immigration system to reduce illegal immigration.
And deport anyone in the future.
But with the already present 11M, you deport the criminal ones and give a path to citizenship for the rest.
It is the most practical solution that benefits the state while avoiding a human rights crisis.
Illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans wont do or do not want to do.
So devaluing of wages is not an issue.
Biden was an idiot.They tried this and were called racists for it. That was the real issue. Then Biden opened everything up.
once again your logic is very flawedAnd if there were no people at all in the country then there would be 0 crime.
That does not work for an argument.
Actual noPeople and crime go together regardless of their status. We have to accept this.
The longer they stay the less likely they are to commit crime.
Detaining a criminal (ie illegal) and returning them to the scene of the crime (the boarder) and is not a human rights abuseThe lack of a piece of paper authorizing their presence is not such a big deal that you should engage in human rights abuses via mass deportations.
We want to treat all applicants for immigration equally, the only way to do that is to accept legally processed applicants and only legally processed applicantsYou are advocating for this despite not being affected by illegal immigrants.
You whine that deporting criminals are human rights abusesIt drums up hatred when there is no need for it and ends up actually materializing into human rights abuses.
What rights are you worried sex workers will lose in Canada under a conservative government exactly? Or as a woman, for that matter? Real question.Are you serious?
Today is a very sad day for women's, lgbtq's AND sex workers rights. It's not our battle but it is. This will also affect ours. If a guy like Pollievre pass, there will be a humongous shitshow around here (I don't like the Liberal either, if that matters). What is going on is really, really bad.
Also the Trumpist on a review board that copulate with sex workers but celebrate this kind of victory sound so weird to me. Make it make sense!
Conservative = right. Right do not like prostitute. They don't like you. From there anything is possible.What rights are you worried sex workers will lose in Canada under a conservative government exactly?
You whine that China is not a success story because of their human rights abuses despite being the 2nd largest economy and soon to be the largest economy in the world.You whine that deporting criminals are human rights abuses
While at same time declare China a success story despite knowing they murdered 20 to 50 million (or more) of their own people
Your logic is a clown show
It isn't but the media says it is.Biden was an idiot.
But it is not racist to strengthen your borders while being humane.
I see. I wouldn’t worry about a legal change or anything. That’s not going to happen up here. Don’t worry!Conservative = right. Right do not like prostitute. They don't like you. From there anything is possible.