Elon musk calls Justin Trudeau an insufferable tool

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Wait so stealing ideas is ok, but Elon is a con?

Elon is a con for saying he is an engineer when he is not.
Elon is a con for promising one thing and not delivering on it altogether.
Elon always steals and lies.
While Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg may have stolen initial ideas, but subsequently they embarked on projects that were entirely developed in house.
So Elon is a con while the others are not.
Dont forget I am being very generous in calling what Jobs, Gates and Zuckerberg did "stealing".
Truth is they were more likely inspired.
Elon pretty much stole and misstated his role.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Found another guy who doesn't understand the concept of "free speech".

I'll explain it clearly: Unless you find yourself arrested or imprisoned for voicing your opinion, your free speech/freedom of expression is not being compromised. Full stop. End of discussion.

Any private company or entity has a right to silence you for the things you say.

If a Mod reads this post and deletes it because they don't agree with what I am saying, my freedom of expression is not being compromised.

If you come on to my property and voice an opinion that angers me, I have every right to tell you to get off my property for what you said. Your freedom of expression is not being compromised.

If I go out in public and start yelling obscenities at passersby and someone films me, posts it on Facebook and it goes viral, my boss has every right to fire me because I signed a code-of-conduct agreement with the company.

Free speech is not free and it never has been. It comes with a price and that price is called responsibility.

Free speech isn't freedom from consequences.

 

[richaceg]

Found another guy who doesn't understand the concept of "free speech".

I'll explain it clearly: Unless you find yourself arrested or imprisoned for voicing your opinion, your free speech/freedom of expression is not being compromised. Full stop. End of discussion.

Any private company or entity has a right to silence you for the things you say.

If a Mod reads this post and deletes it because they don't agree with what I am saying, my freedom of expression is not being compromised.

If you come on to my property and voice an opinion that angers me, I have every right to tell you to get off my property for what you said. Your freedom of expression is not being compromised.

If I go out in public and start yelling obscenities at passersby and someone films me, posts it on Facebook and it goes viral, my boss has every right to fire me because I signed a code-of-conduct agreement with the company.

Free speech is not free and it never has been. It comes with a price and that price is called responsibility.

What the fuck has that got to do with my post?
Free speech is free, hate speech is not...there's the difference...Now you can get banned on terb if you break the rules they implemented...moderated...read it, you won't get banned if there's no trace of hate speech on your posts...no illegal stuff... you are not being silenced on twitter...sure you could get bashed by anyone opposing your opinion...the problem is Liberals cry a lot...it's their way or the highway...

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

Free speech isn't freedom from consequences.

Exactly -- and it's terrifying how many people don't understand that. Voicing an extremely unpopular opinion can completely destroy someone's life, but so long as they're not jailed for it, their rights have not been violated.

 

[jalimon]

Charging premium isn't banning accounts...you are free to stay and free to go on X. Twitter purposely banned Trump for nothing. you were ok when he got banned but now you're not because Elon is running the show...plain and simple.

Trump got banned because the potus should not post propaganda bs.

Elon bans all who criticize him. He’s a total authoritarian who will do so much damage to the US.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

What the fuck has that got to do with my post?
Free speech is free, hate speech is not...there's the difference...Now you can get banned on terb if you break the rules they implemented...moderated...read it, you won't get banned if there's no trace of hate speech on your posts...no illegal stuff... you are not being silenced on twitter...sure you could get bashed by anyone opposing your opinion...the problem is Liberals cry a lot...it's their way or the highway...

You clearly still don't get it. Unless you go to jail for espousing non-hate speech, your rights are not being violated.

Saying you like Donald Trump is a very unpopular opinion in Canada. If you make pro-Trump posts on a forum and you get banned, your freedom of expression is not being compromised. If you're arrested and jailed for it, that's another issue all together.

 

[richaceg]

Elon is a con for saying he is an engineer when he is not.
Elon is a con for promising one thing and not delivering on it altogether.
Elon always steals and lies.
While Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg may have stolen initial ideas, but subsequently they embarked on projects that were entirely developed in house.
So Elon is a con while the others are not.
Dont forget I am being very generous in calling what Jobs, Gates and Zuckerberg did "stealing".
Truth is they were more likely inspired.
Elon pretty much stole and misstated his role.

Engineers don't need degrees to become an engineer...they're not surgeons. you don't need to be a lawyer to defend yourself in court. maybe not a good idea though.
So far he delivered.
What did he steal?
Zuckerberg was so inspired he has to pay 65million to the twins?
I don't think Steve Jobs stole ideas...he's a visionary but he didn't execute the hardwork....kinda like...Elon. Elon without his team of engineers won't be where he is now...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

.....Of a foreign state.
Not of leftist Canada.

 

[richaceg]

You clearly still don't get it. Unless you go to jail for espousing non-hate speech, your rights are not being violated.

Saying you like Donald Trump is a very unpopular opinion in Canada. If you make pro-Trump posts on a forum and you get banned, your freedom of expression is not being compromised. If you're arrested and jailed for it, that's another issue all together.

and what has that got to with my argument about twitter...the liberals doing a mass exodus isn't about them being silenced. it's because repugs are not...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Engineers don't need degrees to become an engineer...they're not surgeons. you don't need to be a lawyer to defend yourself in court. maybe not a good idea though.

Wow, that is probably the most uneducated opinion I have come across in a while.
You say that because you are not an engineer and you dont know what engineering entails.
Yes, engineers do need to study engineering.
Engineering is not just about "building" stuff.
There is a lot of math, physics and other science that goes into designing something.
You could learn that outside of the degree, but Elon knows none of that.
He just gave himself a title and sold you bullshit.
Hence why he is a con.

 

[richaceg]

.....Of a foreign state.
Not of leftist Canada.

exactly and people on terb are having a meltdown over him winning an election they can't vote for...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

exactly and people on terb are having a meltdown over him winning an election they can't vote for...

No they are not.
It is the right wing guys acting like he is their president.

 

[richaceg]

Wow, that is probably the most uneducated opinion I have come across in a while.
You say that because you are not an engineer and you dont know what engineering entails.
Yes, engineers do need to study engineering.
Engineering is not just about "building" stuff.
There is a lot of math, physics and other science that goes into designing something.
You could learn that outside of the degree, but Elon knows none of that.
He just gave himself a title and sold you bullshit.
Hence why he is a con.

not as uneducated as saying stealing ideas is ok...but elon is a con is bad.

 

[Skoob]

Trump has a ‘my way or the highway’ style of negotiation. What’s good about that? There’s no give and take with Trump, only take, take, take.

He's trying to do the best for his country and there are times he doesn't really need to negotiate anything if he can just take it.
Leaders know how to use influence and power to get what they want. Everything doesn't always have to be negotiated if you often hold all the cards anyway.
Hate the game not the player so to speak.

Did Biden negotiate when he cancelled the XL pipeline?

 

[richaceg]

No they are not.
It is the right wing guys acting like he is their president.

nah...i'm seeing meltdown...unless you're blind...you can take a look at the politics section how many Trump posts there are...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

not as uneducated as saying stealing ideas is ok...but elon is a con is bad.

That is between the stealer and the stealee.
The only debate is whether Elon revolutionized the world.
He did not.
He did develop a cult following of loyal Elon stans though.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

...unless you're blind...you can take a look at the politics section how many Trump posts there are...

....made by the right wing guys.

 

[richaceg]

....made by the right wing guys.

Only Mitch posts about Trump but probably just to rub salt on the wounds...

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

Wow, that is probably the most uneducated opinion I have come across in a while.
You say that because you are not an engineer and you dont know what engineering entails.
Yes, engineers do need to study engineering.
Engineering is not just about "building" stuff.
There is a lot of math, physics and other science that goes into designing something.
You could learn that outside of the degree, but Elon knows none of that.
He just gave himself a title and sold you bullshit.
Hence why he is a con.

Exactly. I stopped reading when I read "engineers don't need degrees."

Holy. Fuck.

 

[Skoob]

Ideas can be acquired form anywhere.
This isn't about ideas.
This is about the claim that Elon revolutionized the world.
Did Bill Gates, Steve Jobs revolutionize the world? Yes.
Did Elon? No.

Apple was founded 30 years before the first iPhone was introduced.
Microsoft was founded 10 years before the first version of Windows was released.

Musk brought the first successful and commercially available EV to consumers in 5 years.
He successfully reached orbit with the Falcon rocket in 6 years.

You seriously think he is not revolutionizing the world in those aspects and within those timelines?