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superstar_88

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McCabe and Kampf may be injured. Panthers did most of the hitting in the game.
They are the number one hitting team after all. Ottawa is 5th. Leafs are 7th
Interestingly, TB is near the bottom in hits.
Even more interesting the top teams other than Florida are not big hitters
Jets are 20th
Washington is 23rd
Vegas, TB, Dallas, Colorado, Carolina, Edmonton are even lower.
 
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Under this 3 pts system:

3 pts = Regulation win
2pts = OT or SO win
1pts = OT or SO loss
0 pts= regulation loss

The Rangers have 32 regulation wins (96 pts) and the Habs have 25 (75 pts). Three points for those regulation wins, and the Rangers would have a playoff spot, not the Habs.
 
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Montreal made the playoffs not too long ago as the 24th seed.
Also as the 18th seed so this is nothing new.
Regulation time is the purer form of hockey
Teams would be more incentivized to win it in regulation rather than play the OT for the bonus point because there wouldn't be a bonus point.
All games would be the same value 3 pts rather than some 2 pts and some 3 pts.
But this will never change since the NHL likes to keep the standings tighter.
More teams vying for the wild cards.
OT and shooting supposedly is more exciting to watch.
The strategy under this current point system is to play more 3 pt games rather than 2 pt games.
Montreal has played a whopping 19 OT games. NYR has played 11.
 
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Under this 3 pts system:

3 pts = Regulation win
2pts = OT or SO win
1pts = OT or SO loss
0 pts= regulation loss

The Rangers have 32 regulation wins (96 pts) and the Habs have 25 (75 pts). Three points for those regulation wins, and the Rangers would have a playoff spot, not the Habs.
You have to add in the OT pts 2 for a win and 1 for a loss.
So add 15 OT pts for NYR and 29 OT pts for Montreal for total 111 NYR and 104 Montreal.
7 pts is 2 regulation wins and an OT loss.
Current standings both Montreal and NYR have 79 pts. Tie breaker is regualtion wins. Montreal does have a game in hand though so they could jump the Rangers with an OT loss.
Are you saying Montreal is again gaining the NHL rulings?
 
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I noticed that we didn't get any score from last night or season record from mitchell today, nor for the Jays. Now it seems there is no history of any of his posts. 😲
 

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Here's an interesting stat. Domi leads the Leafs in penalty minutes with 67. Connor Bedard has 62. He would be second on the Leafs. He has more penalty minutes than his teammates Bertuzzi and Foligno.
I think at least a few of the Bedard PIM's are of the 10 minute misconduct variety for yapping to the refs.
 

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Ottawa beat TB in regulation.
TB is a very high scoring team but Ullmark was spectacular only let in 1.
Ottawa doesn't score a whole lot but they pumped in 2 on Vasilevsky.

TB's schedule is relatively light. No back to backs and they play both Buffalo and NYR twice and one time against Detroit. The other 2 games Panthers and Leafs.

Leafs have 2 back to backs and one of them is Florida TB combo. The game against TB will be key. The proverbial 4 pt game. TB has the advantage. They'll be playing at home and rested. The other back to back is Montreal and Carolina. Leafs may also have some injuries. McCabe is key. They had their losing streak when McCabe was out.
 
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Montreal made the playoffs not too long ago as the 24th seed.
Also as the 18th seed so this is nothing new.
Regulation time is the purer form of hockey
Teams would be more incentivized to win it in regulation rather than play the OT for the bonus point because there wouldn't be a bonus point.
All games would be the same value 3 pts rather than some 2 pts and some 3 pts.
But this will never change since the NHL likes to keep the standings tighter.
More teams vying for the wild cards.
OT and shooting supposedly is more exciting to watch.
The strategy under this current point system is to play more 3 pt games rather than 2 pt games.
Montreal has played a whopping 19 OT games. NYR has played 11.
Teams tighten up to create a 3 point game. That is true, and it makes the last minutes of games generally dull.

But that is not the reason Montreal has all those OT games. its because Montreal leads the NHL in 3rd period comebacks, and last 10 minute comebacks.

We have covered the 18th place stat in the post Covid Season before. The 3 point games in the other divisions is the reason Montreal was 18th and not 16th. All 3 other divisions had significantly more 3 point games than the Canadian division. It allowed their teams to have more points on average. .
Central - 61 Loser Points
East - 50 Loser Points
West - 49 Loser Points
Canadian - 35 Loser Points

So decide how you are going to use the 3 point game to slam teams - you can't use it both ways to slam Montreal.
 
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superstar_88

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Teams tighten up to create a 3 point game. That is true, and it makes the last minutes of games generally dull.

But that is not the reason Montreal has all those OT games. its because Montreal leads the NHL in 3rd period comebacks, and last 10 minute comebacks.

We have covered the 18th place stat in the post Covid Season before. The 3 point games in the other divisions is the reason Montreal was 18th and not 16th. All 3 other divisions had significantly more 3 point games than the Canadian division. It allowed their teams to have more points on average. .
Central - 61 Loser Points
East - 50 Loser Points
West - 49 Loser Points
Canadian - 35 Loser Points

So decide how you are going to use the 3 point game to slam teams - you can't use it both ways to slam Montreal.
I'm not slamming Montreal. I'm the one advocating teams should be striving to play more 3 pts games under this system and Montreal is doing precisely that. Being able to come back in the 3rd period helps immensely a team to get into OT. Particularly being able to score with the goalie pulled. This is the point system the NHL is using so Montreal has earned it.
 
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I'm not slamming Montreal. I'm the one advocating teams should be trying to play more 3 pts games under this system and Montreal is doing precisely that. Being able to come back in the 3rd period helps immensely a team to get into OT. Particularly being able to score with the goalie pulled. This is the point system the NHL is using so Montreal has earned it.
Typically teams that play high amount of 3 point games, are the ones where it is tied 2-2 or 3-3 with 15 minutes to go and they pack it in the most to ensure it gets to OT. It's not good for hockey.

That being said Montreal's high level of 3 point games is not because they pack in when the game is tied midway though the 3rd. Its because they are scoring goals to force ties late in the game.

I can't say Montreal doesn't pack it in if the game is tied with 10 minutes left. Pretty much every NHL team does it to some degree, some worse than others. There is zero sense to play an agressive back and forth game in the last 10 minutes of a tie game in the NHL
 

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Typically teams that play high amount of 3 point games, are the ones where it is tied 2-2 or 3-3 with 10 minutes to go and they pack it in to ensure it gets to OT. It's not good for hockey.

That being said Montreal's high level of 3 point games is not because they pack in when the game is tied midway though the 3rd. Its because they are scoring goals to force ties late in the game.
Having to make a lot of come backs in the 3rd period means they were often behind in the 3rd and surely not all of them were successful comebacks to boot.

Quite frankly I don't watch any Montreal games other than when they play the Leafs and lately when they play Florida or TB.
 

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I noticed that we didn't get any score from last night or season record from mitchell today, nor for the Jays. Now it seems there is no history of any of his posts. 😲
It appears he's left the building. You were the first to notice.
He'll come back when Marner is traded.
 

superstar_88

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Marner is a free agent.
It was in jest.
Everyone knows he's a free agent.
Mitchell was the one who wanted Marner traded after last playoffs.
Well, he and 88% of Leaf Nation.
 
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It appears he's left the building. You were the first to notice.
It wasn't that I noticed directly that he was missing. I noticed that his useless posts announcing a score with only a pic hours after the fact and nothing else, such as some stats or some insight and how the Jays record changes one game at a time over 162 games were missing when both the Jays and Leafs had played weren't there. That's what I noticed. I had previously commented on them.
 

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From mapleleafsdaily:
"Ex-Leafs forward Kris Versteeg, who is currently a contributor on Sportsnet's Hockey Central, emphatically stated that Nylander may be the top winger in hockey today."


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