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Do the dummies south of the 49th actually agree with moron Don ?

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The vaccine was first developed successfully out of warp speed by a team in Germany (led by a girl from Israel and Turkish scientist). Trump used warp speed to sign an executive order to make it mandatory for pharma to sell 300 million doses to the US first, bypassing other countries.

And warp speed left the impression to stupid Americans that the vaccine was developed on the fly and was not safe at all.
Wasn't the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine supported by German funding, but not Warpspeed? Warpspeed was a client that bought doses from P-B. Unless you're thinking of a different vaccine like Moderna.


The BioNtech project to develop a novel mRNA technology for a COVID-19 vaccine was called "Project Lightspeed", which started in mid-January 2020 at BioNTech's laboratories in Mainz, Germany, just days after the SARS-Cov-2 genetic sequence was first made public.[55] In September 2020, BioNTech received €375 million (US$445 million) from the government of Germany to accelerate the development and production capacity of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.[56][57][58] On November 9, the PfizerBioNTech partnership announced positive early results from its Phase III trial of the BNT162b2 vaccine candidate, and on December 11, the FDA provided emergency use authorization, initiating the distribution of the vaccine.[59] Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said that the company had not taken Warp Speed funding for the development of the vaccine out of a desire "to liberate our scientists [from] any bureaucracy that comes with having to give reports and agree how we are going to spend the money in parallel or together"
 
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Credit where it's due, Trump is charismatic, at least with his base. Poilievre, on the other hand, has no presence and no charisma. He appears confident in his ads, when he's talking to his base or when being interviewed by Rebel News, but he looked like a wet noddle at last night's debate, where he had no control over his environment.

Won't be voting for this phony cunt based on this crap.
 

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I'm an American. I grew up down south in Arkansas. I just visited last week with my relatives. I used to be a Republican until Donald Trump hijacked the party. I can give you my opinion as to what is happening in America but I'll give a little background first.

When the Don ran in 2015, I was working with a guy that said he was going to vote for him. I was shocked! This was a conservative guy with common sense. I asked him why he was going to vote for him and his answer was 'he's going to shake up Washington.' Then I mentioned all the things he said and his reply was 'Nah, he doesn't really mean that. What he actually means is...' And every single time I asked someone about what Trump said, the answer kept being 'He doesn't mean that. What he really means is....' They put their thoughts into what they thought he was going to do even though I kept screaming that he is going to do what he says he is going to do.

When Trump was President, all I heard was 'I wish he'd get off Twitter and stop talking.'

During his 1st administration, he had some 'grown ups' that kept him from doing what he really wanted to do. Don't get me wrong, he was doing some evil things that the Republican party knew about and was 'ok with.' For instance, the Republican party always respected the veterans. Donald cares nothing about veterans and so the party lurched that way.

Covid came. Trump tried to kill the entire world and so he lost to Biden.

Biden was ok but that debate was a killer. It was devastating. The Dems through out Harris for President and I thought she actually had a chance.

But she had three major things going against her. 1) she was female. 2) she was black. 3) Americans are stupid. (I say that as an American loving born and bred on the farm patriot. We simply do not think anymore.)

So, Trump ran. I thought he'd lose. But when I asked my friends why they were voting for him, they always said one thing: I had more money in my pocket when Trump was President.

And I thought about that and it was 100% true. Americans were rolling in money when Trump was President. But not because of him. Actually it was in spite of him.

Americans only remember the 'good' part of Covid. In America, student loans were paused, evictions were stopped, unemployment was to the point that you made more money not working than you made working because of the extra government subsidies, companies didn't have to worry about payroll because of the PPP (Payroll Protection Plan), and everyone was getting stimulated from the government stimulus checks. So we were getting all this money...and we had no way to spend it. Couldn't go out to eat. Couldn't go to the movies. Couldn't go on vacation. The money just piled up.

And that is what too many Americans remember about the first Trump administration.

Now, Trump is doing exactly what he always said he was going to do. He's been screaming tariffs since the mid-80s. Voters that actually paid attention to him knew it was going to happen. My opinion is that many people voted for him not realizing they were voting 100% against their own interests. Trump doesn't care about anyone except those who bend the knee to him.

So, what do his MAGA loving voters think now? They're a bit confused. Turns out tariffs really are just a tax on the American people. (who knew??) And maybe getting rid of the educational system isn't the best idea. Unfortunately, things are happening that will affect them but they don't know it yet. Why? Because his MAGA peeps are all about FoxNews. And FoxNews only tells them the good things. Even when they were talking about tariffs on cars, my friend was trying to convince me that car prices were going to go down!!! it was the craziest conversation ever. But that's exactly what he was told on FoxNews and Trump has convinced all his voters that any other new source is fake news. (Dictator 101 - control the message)

And one more thing about Americans that the world probably already knows. When we go places, we expect everyone to speak 'American' and do what we think they should do. Why? Because Americans only know America. I've traveled through Europe and was amazed at how much other people in other countries know about America. We know NOTHING of history. Hitler was bad. That we know. What Hitler did to gain power (which is similar to what Trump is doing) we're clueless about. We are 'told' that Russia is bad. Trump is now saying 'Russia isn't that bad.' Americans don't know about the Soviet Union and Stalin and the history of totalitarian countries. I mean, we 'know' but we choose to think 'that would never happen to us. We're America!'

Even the Democrats - the opposition party - is clueless. Their belief is to wait until Trump does something and then run to that place screaming 'look at what he did!' We need real opposition! (Not violence. I don't believe in violence) But we need the students at the universities like Poland in the late 30s. We need the Dems to 'infiltrate' the Republican party so that they will know what is going to happen before they find out about it on CNN (Cable News Network). We need them to work with the Republicans that don't believe in Trump. There has to be a ton of Claus von Stauffenberg's in the Republican party. And, more importantly, the Democrats need to be in Germany and Hungary asking them how to stop Trump. Trump isn't new. It is impossible to believe that Germany can't look back in their history and say 'this is what you need to do NOW!'

So, that's a lot and probably went waaaay off the original topic.

But America, shockingly, has not gone as low as we are going to go. Trump has said publicly that he would consider a 3rd term. Some Republicans, the party of law and order, don't have a problem with that. Republicans in Congress want to pass a law to remove judges they don't like. The groundwork is already being laid...

Which is why I'm in Canada now. To support your businesses and get away from the crazies for a few minutes.
I've been saying for years now it's going to get worse before it gets better. And was called an "accelerationist" for it.

There is a lady in Maryland who sometimes joins an online game I play. The last two games she is having internet issues, and truly believes, not that its her provider, but that "America's Enemies" are out to get all Americans and enslave them. Her real words.

This is the very real state of the USA. And it goes back decades, even before Trump. If had conversations like this in Florida, California, the Bahamas, Las Vegas, with people from all states and walks of life.

The level of misinformation and myopic behavior leaves me astounded. It's why I canceled all USA travel before this election for the near future. I think you are headed for very real street violence. And with more guns than residents the escalation chance, coupled with the various pressures being ramped up on the populace, it very high imo.
 

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Right now, the US medical associations are in panic mode as they will lose 20 to 40% of participants coming out of the US. And international associations are doing everything they can to move their meeting out of the US and are planning future meetings out of the US.

It is now safer to hold an international meeting in Istanbul than in the US!

This is a hundred billion dollar market...
Recent news story I saw a Top Canadian Cardiologist/Surgeon canceled a two year residence in SF to teach a new technique for the reasons out there.
 
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They can get thrown in jail or deported to a brutal El Salvadore prison if they speak out against the shit stain Don, but I am wondering if any shit licker rednecks actually believe what he is doing is good. Thoughts ?
when you hire a bunch of clowns you get a circus. The only + I give him is restoring diplomatic relations with Russia (essential IMHO and dangerous without) and trying to avoid a war with Iran, a conflict which was started by his own idiocy in withdrawing from the JCPOA and murdering their defense minister.
 

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Previous administrations should have thought about this before allowing tens of millions of illegals to take up residence in the USA.

Their shortsightedness and lack of a spine has made this a very difficult situation.

It takes a real leader to get it done, regardless.
I really hate arguing politics - but only because I love it so much.

But I believe you are slightly mistaken in your numbers. There are not, contrary to what is being spewed by Trump, 'tens of millions of illegals' in America. He is using the same type argument to say Canada is flooding America with fentanyl. Just say it and hope people will believe it. Two seconds of research and you'll know that's not true.

Secondly, the Democratic party tried to pass a bill to stop illegal entry into the US from Mexico. There was a bipartisan immigration billed that was the Republicans wet dream. They wrote it. It would have built more border barriers, expanded detention centers, hired more ICE and Border Patrols and was supported by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, National Border Control Patrol and the Wall Street editorial staff - GOP mouthpieces. It had everything the Republicans had been screaming that they wanted for decades.

But what happened to that bill?? Trump torpedoed it.

Trump doesn't care about the border. If he did, he would have done things to help stop illegal aliens. But he chose to torpedo a bill that would do that very thing. Who brings in fentanyl into the United States?? Americans! College students. Americans trying to make a buck. You wanna stop fentanyl in America? Go after the users and the people actually bringing it in to the US. It's not Mexicans sneaking it in, it's Americans. But that's not as scary as saying 'a horde of Mexicans is trying to destroy America! Build a wall!!!' 'Karen' can't be the poster child for the influx of fentanyl in the US.

Also, and this is so important, Trump isn't going after illegal aliens. He's going after people who are here legally and who have green cards and documentation saying they are allowed to stay. Who have been in this country for decades. Who have not broken laws - other than the law of being the wrong color.
 

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Too say Trump tried to kill the world during COVID is just plain wrong...He championed operation warp speed as he saw it was his path to getting re-elected. When the first vaccines came out about a month after the election Trump tried to insinuate that it was purposely done to sabotage his chances.

As for Kamala not getting elected because she was a black woman...If Joe Biden did the right thing and stepped aside after his term.Then they held a proper selection process and let's say than ran Michelle Obama...Do you think they lose? I'm betting not.
the foolishness of Trumps cult never ceases to amaze me. Trump lied about covid and then told a reporter how serious it was. Operation warp speed was not his idea but drinking bleach was. Trump axed all of Obamas policies to deal with infectious diseases like covid because Obama made fun of him for being a stupid fucking idiot. Trump tied his best to downplay covid in hopes he would get reelcted and hundreds if thousands of amecians died because of his criminal negligence. Its funny how you as a Canadian tries to tell an American how it really is, but typical of a Trump ass licker
 
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I really hate arguing politics - but only because I love it so much.

But I believe you are slightly mistaken in your numbers. There are not, contrary to what is being spewed by Trump, 'tens of millions of illegals' in America. He is using the same type argument to say Canada is flooding America with fentanyl. Just say it and hope people will believe it. Two seconds of research and you'll know that's not true.

Secondly, the Democratic party tried to pass a bill to stop illegal entry into the US from Mexico. There was a bipartisan immigration billed that was the Republicans wet dream. They wrote it. It would have built more border barriers, expanded detention centers, hired more ICE and Border Patrols and was supported by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, National Border Control Patrol and the Wall Street editorial staff - GOP mouthpieces. It had everything the Republicans had been screaming that they wanted for decades.

But what happened to that bill?? Trump torpedoed it.

Trump doesn't care about the border. If he did, he would have done things to help stop illegal aliens. But he chose to torpedo a bill that would do that very thing. Who brings in fentanyl into the United States?? Americans! College students. Americans trying to make a buck. You wanna stop fentanyl in America? Go after the users and the people actually bringing it in to the US. It's not Mexicans sneaking it in, it's Americans. But that's not as scary as saying 'a horde of Mexicans is trying to destroy America! Build a wall!!!' 'Karen' can't be the poster child for the influx of fentanyl in the US.

Also, and this is so important, Trump isn't going after illegal aliens. He's going after people who are here legally and who have green cards and documentation saying they are allowed to stay. Who have been in this country for decades. Who have not broken laws - other than the law of being the wrong color.
its all about the show.
 

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Previous administrations should have thought about this before allowing tens of millions of illegals to take up residence in the USA.

Their shortsightedness and lack of a spine has made this a very difficult situation.

It takes a real leader to get it done, regardless.
How, Bucky?

By deporting a guy "by mistake" to a death prison run by a comic book psychopath dictator in El Salvador without any sort of hearing, when he was under a non removal order?

They deport the people you don't like first. And then, they deport the people like you and your buddies when you step out of line. Because the rules no longer exist to control what they do.
 

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How, Bucky?

By deporting a guy "by mistake" to a death prison run by a comic book psychopath dictator in El Salvador without any sort of hearing, when he was under a non removal order?

They deport the people you don't like first. And then, they deport the people like you and your buddies when you step out of line. Because the rules no longer exist to control what they do.
TeeBag must have been talking about the Reagan and Bush JR administrations who let in more illegals than anyone. He isnt that stupid to blame democrats is he ?
 

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Wasn't the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine supported by German funding, but not Warpspeed? Warpspeed was a client that bought doses from P-B. Unless you're thinking of a different vaccine like Moderna.


The BioNtech project to develop a novel mRNA technology for a COVID-19 vaccine was called "Project Lightspeed", which started in mid-January 2020 at BioNTech's laboratories in Mainz, Germany, just days after the SARS-Cov-2 genetic sequence was first made public.[55] In September 2020, BioNTech received €375 million (US$445 million) from the government of Germany to accelerate the development and production capacity of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.[56][57][58] On November 9, the PfizerBioNTech partnership announced positive early results from its Phase III trial of the BNT162b2 vaccine candidate, and on December 11, the FDA provided emergency use authorization, initiating the distribution of the vaccine.[59] Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said that the company had not taken Warp Speed funding for the development of the vaccine out of a desire "to liberate our scientists [from] any bureaucracy that comes with having to give reports and agree how we are going to spend the money in parallel or together"
Yes, the first Pfizer-BioNTech successful development was done without warpspeed. But we need to be honest, the 1 billion dollars that the US dumped via warpspeed to buy doses helps them produce much faster.
 

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