Canada elections results 2025

[Butler1000]

Trump can only get impeached if there is a majority Democrats in the house, which currently there isn't

Mid terms. And if it gets bad enough there will be GOP house members and Senators who will gladly throw him to the wolves.

First 3 months report shows recession. And that's before tariffs, housing crisis, layoffs, product shortages, student loans default crisis, inflation on basic needs, and no end to the wars.

I kept telling everyone it's going to get a lot worse dating back years and was called an "accelerationist". Trump has his foot on the gas. And doesn't realize he and Musk are Thelma and Louise.

 

[squeezer]

We lived under Trudeau for years, bro was a dictator in spirit . If he wasn’t such a tampon, and more of a chad like his father (the Cuban one) we may have been in trouble.

Please share with us what Justin did to be a "dictator in spirit"

If you are going to trot out freezing bank accounts, please don't. He was begged by the Provinicial Goverment to step in and clear out the twats from Ottawa. So go ahead, besides COVID which was a unique first-time seen virus causing all countries to take special measures, please show us where Justin had dictatorial tendencies? Unless of course, you support illegal occupation of a city. We know the folks in Ottawa were miffed with Pee Pee and trounced his foul ass out.

I suspect you see Trumpy as a democratic loving leader, just a hunch.

I don’t know what was so authoritarian about Pierre to you. What do you find so threatening? That he wants to give harsher sentences to criminals? He wasn’t like Trump re. immigration or foreign policy. I genuinely never heard him suggest anything radical, ever.

Hmmm, let's see,

1. claiming he is going to use the "notwithstanding clause"
2. Framing media as biased ala Fake News Trumputin style and attempting to quash CBC because it's red meat to his whining base
3. Undermining trust in institutions: Poilievre often frames institutions like the Bank of Canada, the media, and federal bureaucracies as corrupt or incompetent. He claimed he would fire the Governor of the Bank of Canada, which is unprecedented and seen as an attack on central bank independence.

Now, having posted these points, I do not believe Pee Pee would have attempted to be a dictator. He was gracious in his loss to Carney and did concede, although he did not call Bruce Fanjoy to concede and congratulate him on his victory. He was also very well behaved during the debates and very friendly after the debate with the other leaders. If he had shown this side of himself, not prop up the convoy twats, not be an asshole to media asking the tough questions, not threaten to fire civil servants and kill the CBC, he may have been PM today.

 

[Frankfooter]

They think anyone who is a strong conservative is a far right authoritarian. This country has become such a feeble cesspool of wokeness that anyone with a strong voice on the right is branded as alt right, fascist or Nazi.

I'm sure the right wingers here will salute your call for order.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881445920039989627

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Mid terms. And if it gets bad enough there will be GOP house members and Senators who will gladly throw him to the wolves.

First 3 months report shows recession. And that's before tariffs, housing crisis, layoffs, product shortages, student loans default crisis, inflation on basic needs, and no end to the wars.

I kept telling everyone it's going to get a lot worse dating back years and was called an "accelerationist". Trump has his foot on the gas. And doesn't realize he and Musk are Thelma and Louise

If the midterms go against Trump, its possible.
But it would still be hard to impeach him.

Unless Trump does something radically stupid, I don't think it's going to happen

 

[Butler1000]

If the midterms go against Trump, its possible.
But it would still be hard to impeach him.

Unless Trump does something radically stupid, I don't think it's going to happen

"Does something radically stupid".

Like tank the economy? I admit it's unlikely. But he isnot far off from getting reigned in. He has already pissed off the SCOTUS. Is trying to arrest judges. And is about to see the red states get some serious economic anal sex. The world is turning against the USA. In a fundamental way. To the point old enemies are banding together, and old friends are walking away.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

"Does something radically stupid".

Like tank the economy? I admit it's unlikely. But he isnot far off from getting reigned in. He has already pissed off the SCOTUS. Is trying to arrest judges. And is about to see the red states get some serious economic anal sex. The world is turning against the USA. In a fundamental way. To the point old enemies are banding together, and old friends are walking away.

After all the tariff and trade wars have been settled, everything will go back to normal.
I dont think we're headed for a worldwide depression.

And the countries who turned against the US will eventually return.
The US needs the rest of the world, but the rest of the world also needs the US

 

[Excellente]

Please share with us what Justin did to be a "dictator in spirit"

If you are going to trot out freezing bank accounts, please don't. He was begged by the Provinicial Goverment to step in and clear out the twats from Ottawa. So go ahead, besides COVID which was a unique first-time seen virus causing all countries to take special measures, please show us where Justin had dictatorial tendencies? Unless of course, you support illegal occupation of a city. We know the folks in Ottawa were miffed with Pee Pee and trounced his foul ass out.

I suspect you see Trumpy as a democratic loving leader, just a hunch.




Hmmm, let's see,

1. claiming he is going to use the "notwithstanding clause"
2. Framing media as biased ala Fake News Trumputin style and attempting to quash CBC because it's red meat to his whining base
3. Undermining trust in institutions: Poilievre often frames institutions like the Bank of Canada, the media, and federal bureaucracies as corrupt or incompetent. He claimed he would fire the Governor of the Bank of Canada, which is unprecedented and seen as an attack on central bank independence.

Now, having posted these points, I do not believe Pee Pee would have attempted to be a dictator. He was gracious in his loss to Carney and did concede, although he did not call Bruce Fanjoy to concede and congratulate him on his victory. He was also very well behaved during the debates and very friendly after the debate with the other leaders. If he had shown this side of himself, not prop up the convoy twats, not be an asshole to media asking the tough questions, not threaten to fire civil servants and kill the CBC, he may have been PM today.

1) The notwithstanding clause has been used by Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan , Alberta and the Yukon. It’s not unprecedented to use it. Using it to keep dangerous murders in custody seems reasonable to protect society.
2) Kill CBC? I think the suggestion was to defund it and have it pay its own way through advertising. Like other media in Canada. Kind of a novel idea. I had to laugh the other night when Rosemary Barton looked petrified that the Liberal momentum had stalled and they were not going to make 172 seats. At least she didn’t cry as she did when Trudeau announced his resignation.
3) The PM has every legal right to fire the BCG.

Now invoking the Emergency Powers Act just as the Ambassador Bridge blockade was breaking up, but in time to suspend civil liberties (freeze bank accounts, etc.) that is real authoritarian power. He’ll share that sad legacy with his father.

 

[WyattEarp]

the recent ice storm in Ontario and Quebec cost the insurance industry a quarter of a billion dollars.... does that affect any financial decisions?

There was an ice storm in Ontario and Quebec? Oh lord, what is this world coming to?

 

[mandrill]

Yep that was me. I was wrong in assuming that our electorate would look at the big picture instead of focusing on Trump interference so much.

They did look at the big picture - especially the voters in Carleton. Pee is just very, very hate-able.

 

[WyattEarp]

Trump said at his news conference today that he talked on the phone with Carney, and they discussed forming a economic union between Canada and the US, just like the European Union.

Its coming, bro. Its inevitable

I don't know if that will happen. I don't know if most people here and the broader public in our countries even understand what an economic union really is.

I do know a few here that got all upset that Britain left the European economic union will deride a North American economic union.

 

[mandrill]

1) The notwithstanding clause has been used by Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan , Alberta and the Yukon. It’s not unprecedented to use it. Using it to keep dangerous murders in custody seems reasonable to protect society.

I didn't like that other shit, either. You either respect the courts and the constitution or you don't and then you run your country like Russia or El Salvador.

I am also convinced that Pee would use the notwithstanding clause to overturn the courts' decisions on abortion and same sex marriage. Because he's just that type of little incel turd.

 

[mandrill]

They think anyone who is a strong conservative is a far right authoritarian. This country has become such a feeble cesspool of wokeness that anyone with a strong voice on the right is branded as alt right, fascist or Nazi.

You're a pretty "strong voice on the right" yourself, aren't you?

 

[WyattEarp]

This is the right way forward...

What's wrong with a 2,000 page free trade agreement?

 

[WyattEarp]

This has the same chance as California or Texas leaving the USA, as a tiny minority always promotes depending on who wins.

Don't let a tiny few in an echo chamber convince you it's real.

Probably so...............but stating historical fact, the U.S. has shed significant blood to create and preserve the Union (and end slavery). I added the last point to irritate the progressives here.

My Canadian history is obviously not as deep but I believe Canada has a strong agreement that binds the provinces. It would also seem that in the past Quebec has threatened the agreement to gain advantages.

 

[WyattEarp]

Trump can only get impeached if there is a majority Democrats in the house, which currently there isn't

I'm afraid House impeachments will become more common as the bar has been greatly lowered. Even if public sentiment doesn't support an impeachment, a loud and vocal group in the party controlling the House will demand impeachment for every minor error in judgement.

I expect Trump will be impeached by the House if Democrats take control in 2027. The Senate most likely will either ignore it or vote it down.

 

[WyattEarp]

Mid terms. And if it gets bad enough there will be GOP house members and Senators who will gladly throw him to the wolves.

First 3 months report shows recession. And that's before tariffs, housing crisis, layoffs, product shortages, student loans default crisis, inflation on basic needs, and no end to the wars.

First, recessions and/or bad decisions aren't the basis for impeachment. This is particularly true for the party members belonging to the party of the President. House and Senate Democrats can decry any justification they want.

As important, U.S. recessions are not typically random events that come out of nowhere. The Fed by keeping rates high for over two years have been signaling they want and will tolerate a recession to curb inflation and the effects of excessive money printing. The U.S. banks always tell their customers that there will be a soft-landing. It doesn't make sense to scare them with recession talk before we are there.

If I had to guess, Trump's team decided to take some pain in Q1 because we were already slowing down. A lot of indicators were blinking recession in December and January. In reality, laying off govt. workers and cutting back spending (in this case cutting fiscal deficits) are recessionary.

PS- I know the temptation is to add to a list as many items as possible, but some of your items don't make sense. Prices for housing, oil and grains are coming down. This is part of the Fed equation. We always have a student loan default crisis because so many college students don't belong there or don't gain necessary skills when in college. Global wars are the new normal or in reality they always are the normal. Quiet periods are the aberration.

 

[WyattEarp]

After all the tariff and trade wars have been settled, everything will go back to normal.
I dont think we're headed for a worldwide depression.

And the countries who turned against the US will eventually return.
The US needs the rest of the world, but the rest of the world also needs the US

One way or another, the Chinese economy is in deep trouble. The economic statistics manufactured by Beijing and the provinces will get further and further away from the reality.

My concern is military action with Taiwan will be taken to rally the Chinese public and distract them from the looming major recession.

 

[Bucktee]

You know the Century Initiative proposes REDUCED population growth, right?

" The Century Initiative[a][3] is a Canadian lobby group[4][5][6] that aims to increase Canada's population to 100 million by 2100."

Century Initiative - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[kittykellykat]

Please share with us what Justin did to be a "dictator in spirit"

If you are going to trot out freezing bank accounts, please don't. He was begged by the Provinicial Goverment to step in and clear out the twats from Ottawa. So go ahead, besides COVID which was a unique first-time seen virus causing all countries to take special measures, please show us where Justin had dictatorial tendencies? Unless of course, you support illegal occupation of a city. We know the folks in Ottawa were miffed with Pee Pee and trounced his foul ass out.

I suspect you see Trumpy as a democratic loving leader, just a hunch.




Hmmm, let's see,

1. claiming he is going to use the "notwithstanding clause"
2. Framing media as biased ala Fake News Trumputin style and attempting to quash CBC because it's red meat to his whining base
3. Undermining trust in institutions: Poilievre often frames institutions like the Bank of Canada, the media, and federal bureaucracies as corrupt or incompetent. He claimed he would fire the Governor of the Bank of Canada, which is unprecedented and seen as an attack on central bank independence.

Now, having posted these points, I do not believe Pee Pee would have attempted to be a dictator. He was gracious in his loss to Carney and did concede, although he did not call Bruce Fanjoy to concede and congratulate him on his victory. He was also very well behaved during the debates and very friendly after the debate with the other leaders. If he had shown this side of himself, not prop up the convoy twats, not be an asshole to media asking the tough questions, not threaten to fire civil servants and kill the CBC, he may have been PM today.

Interesting that you wrote an effortpoast refuting things I have not said. FTR I was never supportive of the manner in which those convoy protests were carried out. I don’t like protests that disrupt law and order. It seems to me, especially these days, they’re morally bankrupt, and have become no better than a filthy music festival. They’re just having a great time being morally self righteous parrots. We live in the age of lightning fast information — we have far more power as citizens simply producing and disseminating compelling discourse, and we don’t need to rage out to be heard.

It is very hard for me to see protests in this style as morally defensible acts of freedom. If I hated BLM, I’m kind of committed to hating any kind of protest that is analogous, and I do, believe me. I also hated when those kids toppled the statue and rolled the head into the fucking lake because of historical crimes against our aboriginal people, and I was disgusted they wanted to rename Ryerson X university too. I hated that illegal immigrants had a flaccid protest here about their immigration status. They weren’t even disruptive. I could list more, but I think you know where I’m going with that.

I am a careful communicator — I said, verbatim, he was a dictator in spirit. This implies that he did not do anything sufficient for me call him an actual dictator in practice. I could cite instances but since I made a character assessment, it’s more efficient to simply point to a broad definition of sorts.

Justin Trudeau displayed the traits of a man who deeply desired the power to make unilateral decisions and had a punitive impulse towards people who opposed those desires. So does Trump. He consistently — some might say, officially and flagrantly — attempted to thought police others via regulations on our media consumption. He thought policed and affirmed thought policing under the guise of human rights discourse. (Much like a lot of you.)

“Disinformation”, pffft. More like no information.

You guys love your dEmOcRacY right? What sort of democracy is possible when people are blocked from getting the broadest range of information to make the weighty decisions that are required of an electorate that can fully meet their civic duties? Should such an impoverished society be allowed to choose their rulers? If Trudeau presides as a leader of a democratic nation, and also engages in acts that are violent to the spirit — no, the necessary conditions — of democracy then surely he is leaning authoritarian, no? Surely, we can agree on this.

You know who else are dictators in spirit? Toddlers. Trudeau and Trump behave like petulant children regularly. Trump is merely more honest about it.

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Some additional unsolicited info about me, since you didn’t care to ask:

As much as people here assume I love Trump, and call me a MAGAcunt, Nazi, KKK Kelly (lol) etc. I don’t agree with him on many things. I actually think he’s a crazy old coot, and an almost insufferable boor. That said, I’m fairly Trump neutral. I just don’t think he’s evil or necessarily bad for America, I think he fits the American spirit LOL. I’ve only ever said that people are too quick to call him evil and fundamentally ill intended. I am not some MAGAtard who sits around watching reels and shorts of repetitious edgelord right wing grifters, TYVM.

I didn’t bother correcting anyone because it is funny to be called that stuff, and the long game is that my political opponents make themselves look dumb repeatedly, thus losing power in their words and making me seem rational, idk.

I’ve said it upthread, and I repeat, I am decidedly not anti-authoritarian. I believe in benevolent dictatorship, at least in principle. I could provide a principled argument for this, but I’d be plagiarizing. Go read some Moldbug or something, idk. Or The Republic, even. Conversely you could maybe reconsider whether YOU have a principled argument for democracy. See where that seemingly unconscionable line of thought takes you.

It will get you farther away from regurgitating boomer news and closer to being an autonomously thinking being, that’s for sure. Something more fitting of citizen who lives in a democracy.

…you know how to avoid these pesky misunderstandings, and not waste your time refuting something that hasn’t ever been said? You should ask questions of the people you are speaking to.

Interpreting another’s arguments charitably is literally a core principle of being rational. You guys like to rationality right? Look into it. Stop caricaturizing your moral and intellectual opponents. It is intellectually impoverishing, lazy, and incurious.

 

[squeezer]

1) The notwithstanding clause has been used by Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan , Alberta and the Yukon. It’s not unprecedented to use it. Using it to keep dangerous murders in custody seems reasonable to protect society.
2) Kill CBC? I think the suggestion was to defund it and have it pay its own way through advertising. Like other media in Canada. Kind of a novel idea. I had to laugh the other night when Rosemary Barton looked petrified that the Liberal momentum had stalled and they were not going to make 172 seats. At least she didn’t cry as she did when Trudeau announced his resignation.
3) The PM has every legal right to fire the BCG.

1. Mostly used in Quebec and I believe once in Saskatchewan. It has never been used in Ontario. Ford backed away from using it after the outcry but please, support your statement with links from reputable news sources.

2. Defunding it is basically neutering it but yes, he was suggesting they go at it on their own, whereas Carney said he will give them more funding, guess who won. Quebec didn't agree with defunding the CBC and he paid the price for suggesting it in his own riding. Let's see if he and the Conservatives suggest this again next time around. I suspect they will not.

3. Listen carefully to the earlier Pee Pee and then during the debates. I guess he didn't want to sound Trump-like, attacking the Bank Governor.

Firing a Governor of the Bank of Canada has never happened in Canada.

Can the PM fire the Governer of Canada, yes but it is next to IMPOSSIBLE and it looks very poorly on the PM doing do.

Now invoking the Emergency Powers Act just as the Ambassador Bridge blockade was breaking up, but in time to suspend civil liberties (freeze bank accounts, etc.) that is real authoritarian power. He’ll share that sad legacy with his father.

Yeah, so fuck the folks living in Ottawa having to put up with these POS twats illigally squatting in the streets, blowing their horns, walking around like they own the city, causing businesses to close when they were finally allowed to reopen, yeah, FUCK THE OTTAWA citizens, let the twats rule. NO, instead Justin should have gone farther and broken knee caps and kept their funds frozen for at least 6 months. Doug Ford seized rigs but let them have them back too soon. He should have kept them in a junkyard for at least a year.