Gizzlaine Maxwell to be pardoned.

dirtydaveiii

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Maxwell could easily verify trumps admission to being a pedophile but she would most certainly 'commit suicide' just like Jeffrey and thr girl that used to work at Mar a lago
 
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It is quite startling. It is seeming like pedophilia is a red line for significant chunk of Maga world. Remember these guys have been hammering away for years about Biden hiding the info etc - Bongino did tons of shows on it and the "vile act of Bden hiding the list" etc. So these blokes are baying for blood.
Yet, Trump is telling the country pedophilia not such a big deal and the country needs to move on. Obama birth certificate, benghazi, hunter Biden- hang on like a bulldog. Child molesting...meh, move on.

Trump has now giving the clue to Bondi - "release what is credible"...so that means be selective in what she releases.
Stay tuned.
Bondi will pull a bill barr and give a summary of what's in there which will not include pedo TACOs
 
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Bondi will pull a bill barr and give a summary of what's in there which will not include pedo TACOs
Absolutely will not be surprised if that happens.
 

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Wow you people are weirdos. You think it's ok for muddle age men to manipulate 14 year old kids to have sex with them? You are sick people
Isn't the law the law. If you have sex with a woman it means you "manipulate" her? you are such a romantic lol Personally I don't seek it but I certainly do like 18+ year olds and society probably frowns on that as well🤷‍♂️. Plus you are on a hooker board questioning the use of manipulation while society is 100% ok with manipulation while cold hard cash is frowned upon. So who is the wierdo?
 

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That's a fun data set they grabbed.
They don't really have evidence Trump didn't visit after 2008 from that phone data, though, since it only seems to start in 2016.

The phone traffic also doesn't seem to really settle the question of whether or not the island's primary role is as a bawdy house.
From what I recall, it was still considered Epstein's primary residence.
Though those 200 cell phones they tracked visiting the island were there after Epstein was charged.
If you're still visiting after he's been charged with sexual assault its hardly unlikely you are there just for a swim.
 

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Does anyone really believe anything will come of this other than more innuendo?

We all know important and powerful men visited the island and were friendly with Epstein. I don't think we will ever find any conclusive evidence that any of these men Trump, Clinton, etc. slept with underage girls. Do you think Epstein had a list of powerful men, their sex acts and the age of the women in a drawer?

The clamoring for more and more information from the DOJ likely conflicts with accusations lacking real evidence.
How do you think he moved from being a school teacher to spending $80 million buying private islands?
 

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Trump was a Democrat when he patronized Epstein’s Island . Trump’s social circle was other Democrats like the Clintons at that time and the GOP was a bad word.
Trump’s metamorphosis to GOP POTUS twice cannot erase his past life that he drags around like a ball and chain but the MAGAs for most part are so dumb that Trump will survive the Epstein association.

This fellow Trump is the greatest America con man since PT Barnum.
 

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Lol... public trust on Trump is on a record high..... your PTDS is slipping out...
 
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My bad...for Trump. he's beating his approval rating from his first term by double...according to CNN.
Listen to the words,

most popular among republican voters, in other words, DUMBASSES!

Ah, maybe I am wrong and it is just a case of highly intelligent voters that would vote for a felon, rapist, conman, grifter.
 
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Isn't the law the law. If you have sex with a woman it means you "manipulate" her? you are such a romantic lol Personally I don't seek it but I certainly do like 18+ year olds and society probably frowns on that as well🤷‍♂️. Plus you are on a hooker board questioning the use of manipulation while society is 100% ok with manipulation while cold hard cash is frowned upon. So who is the wierdo?
Pretty sure it's against the law to pay women for sex of any age. If they are under 18 it's statutory rape. You are trying to defend fucking sickos that were paying 14 year Olds to have sex. I don't know what laws you are talking about but that's illegal everywhere in the world
 

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I never followed this "Epstein" list thing much. I didn't try to differentiate whether there was more Democrats than Republicans or vice versa. I guess Prince Andrew had some things to be ashamed about. I have some very conservative friends and even they didn't talk or post about Epstein anywhere.
If you weren't in those circles, it probably wasn't a big deal.
It was HUGE on a lot of the right wing MAGA information bubble.
It's almost entirely a right-wing phenomena.
That it was so big in a specific sub-culture is why I think it has broken out in such a weird way here.
For lots of people, it just wasn't that big a deal, but it is a huge deal to a big, loud, important subgroup of Trump's most solid supporters.
That's why them freaking out about it has broken through in a way something else might not.
The affinity group power is working against him for once.

I just think it was one of those salacious stories that attracts certain types of people with certain thinking. I noticed some newscasts and news podcasts are obsessed with the topic. That's probably because it attracts a rabid audience. Without naming names, I don't think TERB and other social media sites are known for the clearest thinkers.
Exactly. And that group happens to be highly concentrated in the right wing pro-Trump population in this case.

Does that mean I think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? Hell no!
Not really relevant, at this point.
The "did he or didn't he commit suicide" is secondary to the "who are the elites you're protecting" kind of discussion right now.
 
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Listen to the words,

most popular among republican voters, in other words, DUMBASSES!

Ah, maybe I am wrong and it is just a case of highly intelligent voters that would vote for a felon, rapist, conman, grifter.
America would elect Trump again if they could which speaks to the fact that the American electorate feels that he is the better choice than the alternatives, and the best that the GOP can come up with. This is the current state that America finds itself in .
This is America‘s problem.
 

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Exactly. And that group happens to be highly concentrated in the right wing pro-Trump population in this case.
I'm seeing a lot of coverage in all venues regardless of political alignment. It's a titillating story. I myself usually skip over it.

Let's face it. Liberals are having some fun with the Epstein story. Some conservatives are angry, but my guess is nothing much more comes of it. If you say it's the Left's payback for the far right conspiracy folks, that's fine. I don't think Epstein really factored into any electoral results nor will it.

I just think now it's a tired story that's run its course. The Trump-Wall Street Journal squabble is a derivative story.

PS- Of course, it's always interesting to come here and find those with modest command of information individually breaking news on Epstein, Trump, Clinton, etc. that no major outlets have.
 

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Wow you people are weirdos. You think it's ok for muddle age men to manipulate 14 year old kids to have sex with them? You are sick people
There are lots of people who are very big on "as long as it isn't technically illegal, it's fine" as a justification for shit.
 

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There are lots of people who are very big on "as long as it isn't technically illegal, it's fine" as a justification for shit.
It's totally illegal. Only pedophiles pretend it isn't. I hope Trump and his child rapists all get what they deserve in jail
 

Valcazar

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Though those 200 cell phones they tracked visiting the island were there after Epstein was charged.
If you're still visiting after he's been charged with sexual assault its hardly unlikely you are there just for a swim.
Yes, but not necessarily there for sex either.
He was charged in 2008 and released in 2010.
He spent years trying to rehabilitate his public image.
You and I may agree he shouldn't have been able to rehabilitate his image as much as he did, but it did happen.
So data in 2016 showing people visiting shows people with bad judgment I think, and is - of course - worth looking into, but I don't think you can immediately leap to the conclusion they were there for underage sex.
 
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