Carney Folds again: Carney ends most counter-tariffs as Trump trade talks continue

DesRicardo

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Dude, you are living in this world where you think everything happens instantly. It doesn't. The tariffs are causing just as many, if not more layoffs in the USA. At some point shit will break. Congressman and Senators will balk.
I'm sorry but companies don't like to lose money. Do you really know what a layoff is?

Yes at some point shit will break, but it will be on our side.
 

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You cannot reason with unreasonable folks. It just doesn't work.
Maybe Carney is trumping Trump, He is using his own tactic against him. Delay, delay, delay. Other countries will rebel when they are hit with tariffs. Trump becomes vulnerable if he is hit with scandals of his own making.
 

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Maybe Carney is trumping Trump, He is using his own tactic against him. Delay, delay, delay. Other countries will rebel when they are hit with tariffs. Trump becomes vulnerable if he is hit with scandals of his own making.

It's only going to get worse for the orange 🤡

 
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I'm sorry but companies don't like to lose money. Do you really know what a layoff is?

Yes at some point shit will break, but it will be on our side.
everyone gets hurt by tariffs thats the reality, but if you really believe we will break then why are you bitching and moaning about your perception that Carney is backing down?
 

DesRicardo

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everyone gets hurt by tariffs thats the reality, but if you really believe we will break then why are you bitching and moaning about your perception that Carney is backing down?
You're just mad because I point out Carney is a liar and won't let him off the hook. It's been bad government so far and shame on you for making excuses for it.

Now for Trump, the end game is to get jobs and money back into America. He's on track to get all that from us with no retaliation.

 

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You're just mad because I point out Carney is a liar and won't let him off the hook. It's been bad government so far and shame on you for making excuses for it.

Now for Trump, the end game is to get jobs and money back into America. He's on track to get all that from us with no retaliation.


There is no way you can predict if a govt will be good or bad this soon after an election. Thats just absurd. As for him being a liar, fact is we have the best deal of any country now. So do you lie low and let the consequences arrive or battle away and face the consequences just so people like you can say he was a tough guy. He always said he was a pragmatist
 
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So do you lie low and let the consequences arrive or battle away and face the consequences just so people like you can say he was a tough guy.
There is absolutely nothing Carney can do to please people like him. Even if Carney ends up getting no tariffs, they will spin it that he somehow failed.
 
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Trump is a liar and/or a dummy. Why should ALL the cars be made in the USA? If Canada buys 20% of the new cars sold in North America, then we should be building 20% in Canada. We should also cancel that tariff on Chinese EV's and trade more with China ( when they follow suit and cancel the canola tariff). Why should we cater to Trump if he just wants to screw us unfairly?
 

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Carney getting dragged and restlessness increasing on him.




 
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DesRicardo

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There is no way you can predict if a govt will be good or bad this soon after an election. Thats just absurd. As for him being a liar, fact is we have the best deal of any country now. So do you lie low and let the consequences arrive or battle away and face the consequences just so people like you can say he was a tough guy. He always said he was a pragmatist
How soon then? 10 years? :ROFLMAO:
 
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There is no way you can predict if a govt will be good or bad this soon after an election. Thats just absurd. As for him being a liar, fact is we have the best deal of any country now. So do you lie low and let the consequences arrive or battle away and face the consequences just so people like you can say he was a tough guy. He always said he was a pragmatist
You know what you're doing? You are waiting for something to happen so it can be spun into a win for Carney.

Basically a stall tactic to get more time instead of admitting the current reality.

Trump will get a new CUSMA and a Defence deal. It's just a matter of time.
 
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If you think Canada is getting bent over now, wait until the new CUSMA deal comes in.
When negotiations don't go the way Trump wants, he'll put huge tariffs on everything.
We haven't seen anything yet.
 

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You know what you're doing? You are waiting for something to happen so it can be spun into a win for Carney.

Basically a stall tactic to get more time instead of admitting the current reality.

Trump will get a new CUSMA and a Defence deal. It's just a matter of time.
CUSMA is up for review in 2026. Ever think this is just a money grab against USA taxpayers and an attempt to move the goalposts for those negotiations?

So really it comes down to Trump has no desire to actually negotiate in good faith. And if he won't then there is no point in worrying over it. Carney will continue to have the trade diplomats engage Trump's team, meanwhile he can use his connections to open other trade possibilities.
 
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You know what you're doing? You are waiting for something to happen so it can be spun into a win for Carney.

Basically a stall tactic to get more time instead of admitting the current reality.

Trump will get a new CUSMA and a Defence deal. It's just a matter of time.
Well DUH, CUSMA is up for review next year, so is it best to wade into a full blown, antagonistic trade war now or, knowing its coming, we instead use the year we have, to prepare as best we can for the coming storm? Yes its a stall tactic, not just to admit the current reality but to better prepare for whats ahead. In the meantime the US economy is starting to suffer, and there is a very good chance Trump may get weaker leading up to the mid terms.
 

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You're just mad because I point out Carney is a liar and won't let him off the hook. It's been bad government so far and shame on you for making excuses for it.

Now for Trump, the end game is to get jobs and money back into America. He's on track to get all that from us with no retaliation.

You are just cheerleading for that Trump dude who is really going to screw the USA Economy. Carney knows how to handle him, and obviously wants to get the best deal for Canada.
Thankfully the alternative called Pee Pee who is clueless as to how to act on the world stage is back to his usual groaning and moaning lost his seat at that time!!

But we are seeing how Putin is playing Trump: :p :D:LOL::ROFLMAO:

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You are just cheerleading for that Trump dude who is really going to screw the USA Economy. Carney knows how to handle him, and obviously wants to get the best deal for Canada.
Thankfully the alternative called Pee Pee who is clueless as to how to act on the world stage is back to his usual groaning and moaning lost his seat at that time!!

But we are seeing how Putin is playing Trump: :p :D:LOL::ROFLMAO:

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Just admit whats going on, lol.
 
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