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Trump calls Ilhan Omar, US Somalis "garbage," claims they've ripped off Minnesota for billions

kherg007

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Isn't the Russian mob pretty awful?
Curious why all Russian immigrants aren't tainted by this.

Ps lol. I know why. 2 reasons - first, Trump has a history of dealing with them, and of course second is race.
 

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Take a look at the human development index, notice anything about the bottom 50? 🤣🤣

Every morning I sit in the sauna at my gym. By far the biggest racists and bigots are non-whites. I know, anecdotal evidence, but when it happens over and over and over it starts to become "pattern recognition" and not opinion. They hate each other on a another level and they're not afraid to voice. I guess they get a pass because of the color of their skin while whites are held on a different level because, well, they're white.
 
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Minnesota: ‘Nearly Every’ Somali Household with Children Is on Welfare

More than 8-in-10 households headed by Somali refugees in the state of Minnesota are on one or more forms of American taxpayer-funded welfare, new data published by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) reveals.

The data, based on 10 years of data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS), shows drastic disparities between native-born American households and Somali-born households in Minnesota, where nearly 80,000 residents have Somali ancestry compared to zero who had Somali ancestry in 1990.

In particular, the data shows that 81 percent of Minnesota households headed by Somali refugees are on one or more forms of welfare, including 27 percent who are on cash welfare, 54 percent who are on food stamps, and 73 percent who are on Medicaid.

Compare this massive welfare use to native-born Americans residing in Minnesota, only 21 percent of whom are on one or more forms of welfare, including just 6 percent who are on cash welfare, 7 percent who are on food stamps, and 18 percent who are on Medicaid.

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Welfare use goes even higher for Somali households where children are in the home, the ACS data finds.


For example, 89 percent of Somali-headed households with children in Minnesota are on one or more forms of welfare, as 86 percent are on Medicaid. About 62 percent of Somali households with children in the state are on food stamps, while 23 percent take cash welfare.


“Nearly every Somali household with children … receives some form of welfare,” CIS researcher Jason Richwine writes.


Again, the gap between Somali households with children on welfare and native-born American households with children on welfare in Minnesota is wide.


Only about 3-in-10 native Minnesotan households with children take one or more forms of welfare, including only 6 percent on cash welfare, 10 percent on food stamps, and 28 percent on Medicaid.





Disparities between native-born Americans and Somali refugees in Minnesota go deeper than welfare use, the data shows. Somali refugees who are in or near poverty in Minnesota surpass 66 percent, while fewer than 2-in-10 native-born Minnesotans live in or near poverty.

Similarly, while just 0.7 percent of native-born Americans in Minnesota speak English less than very well, almost 60 percent of Somali refugees say they do not speak English very well, including nearly half of Somali refugees who have lived in Minnesota for more than a decade.

Somali refugees in Minnesota also tend to be vastly less educated than their Minnesotan counterparts.

While only 5 percent of native-born Americans in Minnesota do not have a high school diploma, almost 40 percent of Somali refugees say the same, including more than 28 percent who have lived in Minnesota for more than 10 years.

 
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Coochy

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Someone that integrated. She was also attacked because she criticized Muslim extremists.

Hirsi Ali: Americans Must Suppress Somali Culture of Civic Corruption

“I grew up in a Somali clan-based society … [where] Loyalty to kin was absolute. Loyalty to the nation was theoretical at best,” she writes in The Free Press, adding:

Amoral familism is a cultural blueprint. It assumes that resources are scarce, the world is dangerous, and survival depends on extracting maximum benefit for one’s own family. Nation-building makes no sense from that perspective. If a road is built, the question is not “How will this help the community?” but “Which family will control access to it?” If foreign aid arrives, the question is not how to distribute it fairly, but which family will claim control.
This mindset explains why Somalia collapsed. It explains the dysfunction in Afghanistan, Haiti, and parts of North and West Africa. It explains why [progressive] Minnesota now faces problems it can’t make sense of, let alone solve.

But she understates the problem: Elite progressives want to impose foreign cultures on Americans, partly because foreign cultures import enormous problems — such as poverty, welfare dependency, and cheating taxpayers out of $1 billion — that help to sabotage citizens’ Christian-based, egalitarian balance of individualism, civic solidarity, and small government.

Voters have repeatedly rejected the progressives’ ambition to govern Americans’ pocketbooks. In a fallback, progressives want to govern the chaotic diversity imposed by the establishment’s unpopular economic policy of mass migration. In September, former President Barack Obama told his supporters:
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There’s never been an experiment [emphasis added] like this, where you have people from every corner of the globe show up in one place … [We] say, based on these ideals — we hold these truths to be self-evident…all men are created equal … and a constitution and a Bill of Rights and a democracy — that we can somehow figure out how to get along and maintain our private beliefs and pray to god in our own ways, and retain aspects of the cultures that we bring from wherever it is that we’re coming from, and yet still decide that we are all Americans … and try to make it better for each successive generation.

“I think George W. Bush believed that [it is possible] … I know John McCain believed it. I know Mitt Romney believed it,” Obama added.

But the progressives are increasingly being changed by their own experiment. For example, the imported foreign cultures are so persistent and aggressive that they are pushing progressives to ignore, excuse, and expand the foreign cultures’ reach and power in the United States.

For example, many Democrats supported the election of an immigrant Muslim to the Mayorship of New York, and the continued inflow of H-1B indentured servants by Indian-immigrant CEOs.

In Minnesota, amid the public uproar over Somali corruption, Gov. Tim Walz (D) told a crowd of cheering Democrats, “Instead of demonizing our Somali community, we’re going to do more to welcome more in.”

Hirsi Ali notes:

[President Donald] Trump, for all his bluntness, grasps the central problem. The left does not. The moderate right refuses to … If Minnesota wants a future that resembles Minnesota, it must make a choice. Assimilation or fracture. Cultural cohesion or cultural evasion.

 

Frankfooter

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1.7 million, 18% of the population.
No, the total is actually a little over 50% when you include the West Bank and Gaza, which are under occupation by Israel.
Its the demographic 'bomb' Israel worries about, and why they keep arguing there is no Palestine but that Palestnians under them don't count.

And its why the one state solution is the thing that scares them the most, even more than BDS and global sanctions over the genocide.
 

Frankfooter

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Someone that integrated. She was also attacked because she criticized Muslim extremists.

Hirsi Ali: Americans Must Suppress Somali Culture of Civic Corruption

“I grew up in a Somali clan-based society … [where] Loyalty to kin was absolute. Loyalty to the nation was theoretical at best,” she writes in The Free Press, adding:

Amoral familism is a cultural blueprint. It assumes that resources are scarce, the world is dangerous, and survival depends on extracting maximum benefit for one’s own family. Nation-building makes no sense from that perspective. If a road is built, the question is not “How will this help the community?” but “Which family will control access to it?” If foreign aid arrives, the question is not how to distribute it fairly, but which family will claim control.
This mindset explains why Somalia collapsed. It explains the dysfunction in Afghanistan, Haiti, and parts of North and West Africa. It explains why [progressive] Minnesota now faces problems it can’t make sense of, let alone solve.

But she understates the problem: Elite progressives want to impose foreign cultures on Americans, partly because foreign cultures import enormous problems — such as poverty, welfare dependency, and cheating taxpayers out of $1 billion — that help to sabotage citizens’ Christian-based, egalitarian balance of individualism, civic solidarity, and small government.

Voters have repeatedly rejected the progressives’ ambition to govern Americans’ pocketbooks. In a fallback, progressives want to govern the chaotic diversity imposed by the establishment’s unpopular economic policy of mass migration. In September, former President Barack Obama told his supporters:
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There’s never been an experiment [emphasis added] like this, where you have people from every corner of the globe show up in one place … [We] say, based on these ideals — we hold these truths to be self-evident…all men are created equal … and a constitution and a Bill of Rights and a democracy — that we can somehow figure out how to get along and maintain our private beliefs and pray to god in our own ways, and retain aspects of the cultures that we bring from wherever it is that we’re coming from, and yet still decide that we are all Americans … and try to make it better for each successive generation.

“I think George W. Bush believed that [it is possible] … I know John McCain believed it. I know Mitt Romney believed it,” Obama added.

But the progressives are increasingly being changed by their own experiment. For example, the imported foreign cultures are so persistent and aggressive that they are pushing progressives to ignore, excuse, and expand the foreign cultures’ reach and power in the United States.

For example, many Democrats supported the election of an immigrant Muslim to the Mayorship of New York, and the continued inflow of H-1B indentured servants by Indian-immigrant CEOs.

In Minnesota, amid the public uproar over Somali corruption, Gov. Tim Walz (D) told a crowd of cheering Democrats, “Instead of demonizing our Somali community, we’re going to do more to welcome more in.”

Hirsi Ali notes:

[President Donald] Trump, for all his bluntness, grasps the central problem. The left does not. The moderate right refuses to … If Minnesota wants a future that resembles Minnesota, it must make a choice. Assimilation or fracture. Cultural cohesion or cultural evasion.

The racism on this board gets more and more blatant while MAGA is still in power.
Enjoy it while you can

Put a Fork in Him. Trump, 79, Is as Cooked as His Well-Done Steak
 

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Someone that integrated. She was also attacked because she criticized Muslim extremists.

Hirsi Ali: Americans Must Suppress Somali Culture of Civic Corruption

“I grew up in a Somali clan-based society … [where] Loyalty to kin was absolute. Loyalty to the nation was theoretical at best,” she writes in The Free Press, adding:

Amoral familism is a cultural blueprint. It assumes that resources are scarce, the world is dangerous, and survival depends on extracting maximum benefit for one’s own family. Nation-building makes no sense from that perspective. If a road is built, the question is not “How will this help the community?” but “Which family will control access to it?” If foreign aid arrives, the question is not how to distribute it fairly, but which family will claim control.
This mindset explains why Somalia collapsed. It explains the dysfunction in Afghanistan, Haiti, and parts of North and West Africa. It explains why [progressive] Minnesota now faces problems it can’t make sense of, let alone solve.

But she understates the problem: Elite progressives want to impose foreign cultures on Americans, partly because foreign cultures import enormous problems — such as poverty, welfare dependency, and cheating taxpayers out of $1 billion — that help to sabotage citizens’ Christian-based, egalitarian balance of individualism, civic solidarity, and small government.

Voters have repeatedly rejected the progressives’ ambition to govern Americans’ pocketbooks. In a fallback, progressives want to govern the chaotic diversity imposed by the establishment’s unpopular economic policy of mass migration. In September, former President Barack Obama told his supporters:
View attachment 521395

There’s never been an experiment [emphasis added] like this, where you have people from every corner of the globe show up in one place … [We] say, based on these ideals — we hold these truths to be self-evident…all men are created equal … and a constitution and a Bill of Rights and a democracy — that we can somehow figure out how to get along and maintain our private beliefs and pray to god in our own ways, and retain aspects of the cultures that we bring from wherever it is that we’re coming from, and yet still decide that we are all Americans … and try to make it better for each successive generation.

“I think George W. Bush believed that [it is possible] … I know John McCain believed it. I know Mitt Romney believed it,” Obama added.

But the progressives are increasingly being changed by their own experiment. For example, the imported foreign cultures are so persistent and aggressive that they are pushing progressives to ignore, excuse, and expand the foreign cultures’ reach and power in the United States.

For example, many Democrats supported the election of an immigrant Muslim to the Mayorship of New York, and the continued inflow of H-1B indentured servants by Indian-immigrant CEOs.

In Minnesota, amid the public uproar over Somali corruption, Gov. Tim Walz (D) told a crowd of cheering Democrats, “Instead of demonizing our Somali community, we’re going to do more to welcome more in.”

Hirsi Ali notes:

[President Donald] Trump, for all his bluntness, grasps the central problem. The left does not. The moderate right refuses to … If Minnesota wants a future that resembles Minnesota, it must make a choice. Assimilation or fracture. Cultural cohesion or cultural evasion.

Don’t confuse libtards with FACTS. It doesn’t help with their TDS.
 
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Klatuu

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No, the total is actually a little over 50% when you include the West Bank and Gaza, which are under occupation by Israel.
Its the demographic 'bomb' Israel worries about, and why they keep arguing there is no Palestine but that Palestnians under them don't count.

And its why the one state solution is the thing that scares them the most, even more than BDS and global sanctions over the genocide.
Translation: Democracy terrifies them. Democracy exists to negate supremacists
 
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Someone that integrated. She was also attacked because she criticized Muslim extremists.

Hirsi Ali: Americans Must Suppress Somali Culture of Civic Corruption

“I grew up in a Somali clan-based society … [where] Loyalty to kin was absolute. Loyalty to the nation was theoretical at best,” she writes in The Free Press, adding:

Amoral familism is a cultural blueprint. It assumes that resources are scarce, the world is dangerous, and survival depends on extracting maximum benefit for one’s own family. Nation-building makes no sense from that perspective. If a road is built, the question is not “How will this help the community?” but “Which family will control access to it?” If foreign aid arrives, the question is not how to distribute it fairly, but which family will claim control.
This mindset explains why Somalia collapsed. It explains the dysfunction in Afghanistan, Haiti, and parts of North and West Africa. It explains why [progressive] Minnesota now faces problems it can’t make sense of, let alone solve.

But she understates the problem: Elite progressives want to impose foreign cultures on Americans, partly because foreign cultures import enormous problems — such as poverty, welfare dependency, and cheating taxpayers out of $1 billion — that help to sabotage citizens’ Christian-based, egalitarian balance of individualism, civic solidarity, and small government.

Voters have repeatedly rejected the progressives’ ambition to govern Americans’ pocketbooks. In a fallback, progressives want to govern the chaotic diversity imposed by the establishment’s unpopular economic policy of mass migration. In September, former President Barack Obama told his supporters:
View attachment 521395

There’s never been an experiment [emphasis added] like this, where you have people from every corner of the globe show up in one place … [We] say, based on these ideals — we hold these truths to be self-evident…all men are created equal … and a constitution and a Bill of Rights and a democracy — that we can somehow figure out how to get along and maintain our private beliefs and pray to god in our own ways, and retain aspects of the cultures that we bring from wherever it is that we’re coming from, and yet still decide that we are all Americans … and try to make it better for each successive generation.

“I think George W. Bush believed that [it is possible] … I know John McCain believed it. I know Mitt Romney believed it,” Obama added.

But the progressives are increasingly being changed by their own experiment. For example, the imported foreign cultures are so persistent and aggressive that they are pushing progressives to ignore, excuse, and expand the foreign cultures’ reach and power in the United States.

For example, many Democrats supported the election of an immigrant Muslim to the Mayorship of New York, and the continued inflow of H-1B indentured servants by Indian-immigrant CEOs.

In Minnesota, amid the public uproar over Somali corruption, Gov. Tim Walz (D) told a crowd of cheering Democrats, “Instead of demonizing our Somali community, we’re going to do more to welcome more in.”

Hirsi Ali notes:

[President Donald] Trump, for all his bluntness, grasps the central problem. The left does not. The moderate right refuses to … If Minnesota wants a future that resembles Minnesota, it must make a choice. Assimilation or fracture. Cultural cohesion or cultural evasion.

But that makes 2 false assumptions:

1. That the people who flee Somalia for the US do not want to also flee the traditional attitudes and way of life in Somalia.

2. That Somali immigrants won't adapt and become Americanized if they live in the US.

As far as Trump "grasping" much of anything, the old fucker has so much age-related and obesity-related brain rot that I doubt he can grasp anything more complicated than stuffing another box of McNuggets down his fat, saggy throat.
 
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