Montreal Canadiens

maurice93 · Monday at 9:14 AM

Giving further though to a potential Laine deal, I can see them using him to acquire a 5th/6th defenceman for the upcoming year to replace Savard. I think they still want one more vet to complement Matheson and Carrier on the back end since they are now a playoff team.

As an example of a framework
To Seattle - Laine (20% retained) + 3rd (Money Out - $7.0 Million)
To Montreal - Jaime Oleksiak (Money In - $4.9 Million)

Montreal fills their hole for a veteran D to replace David Savard, and clears an additional $2.1M of cap space. The cost of that cap space is a 3rd round pick. Seattle needs scoring.

Another potential fit could be Chicago and Connor Murphy.

musky guy · Monday at 9:29 AM

maurice93 said:
Giving further though to a potential Laine deal, I can see them using him to acquire a 5th/6th defenceman for the upcoming year to replace Savard. I think they still want one more vet to complement Matheson and Carrier on the back end since they are now a playoff team.

As an example of a framework
To Seattle - Laine (20% retained) + 3rd (Money Out - $7.0 Million)
To Montreal - Jaime Oleksiak (Money In - $4.9 Million)

Montreal fills their hole for a veteran D to replace David Savard, and clears an additional $2.1M of cap space. The cost of that cap space is a 3rd round pick. Seattle needs scoring.

Another potential fit could be Chicago and Connor Murphy.

next year they need to put davidov up with suzuki and cole. slav can be a second line centre

Fun For All · Monday at 9:32 AM

maurice93 said:
They will certainly have to eat some -- even up to 50% -- and they will probably need to throw in a pick or two

I think Laine + 3rd + 6th + 40% retained probably gets something done (maybe they could do a bit better than that,, less picks or retention). The Habs got a 2nd from Columbus for taking on the full contract.

I've never liked the ideas of paying a player not to play for you...what I'm saying is maybe work with Laine in his UFA year, try to squeeze a 30 goal season out of him.

maurice93 · Monday at 9:33 AM

musky guy said:
next year they need to put davidov up with suzuki and cole. slav can be a second line centre

That line worked really well post 4 nations, so I'm in no rush to break it up.

Really depends what they are able to do in terms of acquiring a 2nd line centre. If they can acquire a good second line centre, I'm content with Demidov starting on the 2nd line. Or whomever fits best.

musky guy · Monday at 9:39 AM

maurice93 said:
That line worked really well post 4 nations, so I'm in no rush to break it up.

Really depends what they are able to do in terms of acquiring a 2nd line centre. If they can acquire a good second line centre, I'm content with Demidov starting on the 2nd line. Or whomever fits best.

davidov needs someone to give him the puck

maurice93 · Monday at 9:51 AM

musky guy said:
davidov needs someone to give him the puck

Demidov is also a pretty good passer. He can drive a line with adequate players.

As I said, let's see who the second line centre we acquire this offseason (if anybody), before changing lines. With cap space, a number of A-/B prospects, 16th, 17th pick, if we don't get an established second line center this offseason it would be very disappointing,.

maurice93 · Monday at 10:04 AM

Fun For All said:
I've never liked the ideas of paying a player not to play for you...what I'm saying is maybe work with Laine in his UFA year, try to squeeze a 30 goal season out of him.

For Laine to get 30 goals, he largely neuters Caufield and Demidov on the PP.

If they aren't going to use the cap space this year, then sure keep Laine and hope he starts doing more on even strength,
But if we can flip Laine for a veteran D that is an expiring #4-#5 type, that might be the optimal solution.

Insidious Von · Monday at 10:50 AM

Oleksiak is a pylon, the Marriners would gladly make that trade. Don't get fooled by the name recognition, he's gone way down hill since he got his bell rung.

funstick · Monday at 11:20 AM

I agree that Laine needs to go before the Habs can move up a notch. He is too much of a liability 5 on 5 and his lack of effort is bad for team culture. He has a good shot on PP and that's it. If other teams defend it well or if he looses a bit of confidence with his shooting, he has no value whatsoever. The PP with Demidov on the right side and Caufield back in his old spot is way more dynamic and less predictable. I agree that they will have to try and trade him with assets and retain a big chunk of his salary to have a chance of making it happen.

seanzo · Monday at 11:40 AM

maurice93 said:
Might as well keep Dach.

Dach's only has a $3M cap hit next year which based on 22/23 he can play up to (of course he has been a mess since). They can still use a center or a winger to fill in for Dvorak/Laine/Armia and it will be a prove it year for Dach,

But 25/26 might be it for him in Montreal once his contract is up.

The contract he signed when he came to Montreal was a prove it contract. All that he has proven is that when healthy, his play is mediocre and then at some point he has a season ending injury. Personally if we're going to see Dach stick around I'd rather have him as the 13th forward than occupying a spot on the line up. Give Owen Beck a shot and if he doesn't pan out Michael Hague isn't that far out from making his NHL debut. I just don't see any benefit to the team in keeping Dach into next season

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