Flat rate for longer sessions?

NoLagJustMidlife · Jun 10, 2025

I’m the type of guy who enjoys longer meetings, like 3-4 hours, as it gives us the chance to drink a glass of wine and actually have a conversation before moving on to the activities.

I’ve had a few of these experiences, all of the providers saved my number and want to do it again.

I’m trying to find more of those providers, but for the life of me, I can’t find any with a flat rate, they all seem to advertise per hour or an absurd amount of money (got quoted $3000 today). Though some advertise “Unrushed service”, it turns out that an hour is still an hour apparently.

Is there a market like this or am I just dreaming?

Ginomore · Jun 10, 2025

There is no upside for the sp to charge a flat rate.
All sps use per hour rates.

NoLagJustMidlife · Jun 10, 2025

Ginomore said:
There is no upside for the sp to charge a flat rate.
All sps use per hour rates.

I understand that there’s no upside for those SP who are in the game for the money, but respectfully, I can assure you there are some that do not care about the amount of time spent and do it for fun. Read my reviews, I’ve posted about 2 of them.

Jenesis · Jun 10, 2025

Ginomore said:
There is no upside for the sp to charge a flat rate.
All sps use per hour rates.

Pretty much this.

For example - a girl who books on average 3 appointments in a shift charging 300 would be making 900 for the shift.

If she offers a flat rate she is lowering her earning potential. She will mostly only be able to take that one flat rate client in the same shift.

It makes no real sense.

Jenesis · Jun 10, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I understand that there’s no upside for those SP who are in the game for the money, but respectfully, I can assure you there are some that do not care about the amount of time spent and do it for fun. Read my reviews, I’ve posted about 2 of them.

So if her average rate is 300 an hour and you want 3 hours - what are you willing to pay?

BobbyRyan81 · Jun 10, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I’m the type of guy who enjoys longer meetings, like 3-4 hours, as it gives us the chance to drink a glass of wine and actually have a conversation before moving on to the activities.

I’ve had a few of these experiences, all of the providers saved my number and want to do it again.

I’m trying to find more of those providers, but for the life of me, I can’t find any with a flat rate, they all seem to advertise per hour or an absurd amount of money (got quoted $3000 today). Though some advertise “Unrushed service”, it turns out that an hour is still an hour apparently.

Is there a market like this or am I just dreaming?

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xmontrealer · Jun 10, 2025

In the past when I used to see a few indies I had some sessions that went well past the time I paid for.

When I felt the hour was up I mentioned it, but once in a while if there was no booking after me the lady said she'd be happy to let me stay for at least a little extra time, at no charge.

Usually it was no more than an extra 30 minutes.

I never booked more than one hour with anybody, and always felt I had more than enough time for fun opening conversation, and the physical activities that followed, in a one hour session.

Robert Mugabe · Jun 10, 2025

If you are looking for a long haul you have to consider the weight rate.

Daddy2021 · Jun 10, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I’m the type of guy who enjoys longer meetings, like 3-4 hours, as it gives us the chance to drink a glass of wine and actually have a conversation before moving on to the activities.

I’ve had a few of these experiences, all of the providers saved my number and want to do it again.

I’m trying to find more of those providers, but for the life of me, I can’t find any with a flat rate, they all seem to advertise per hour or an absurd amount of money (got quoted $3000 today). Though some advertise “Unrushed service”, it turns out that an hour is still an hour apparently.

Is there a market like this or am I just dreaming?

Well yes an hour is an hour, why shouldn’t it be? If that’s what you paid for then why should you expect longer than that? Comes off as rather entitled. Perhaps the best approach is to start with what your budget is then ask the sp you are interested in how much time she is willing to offer within that budget. If it works for you then great! If not then perhaps you need to adjust your expectations. Does it matter what the sp is charging per hour and you just want to feel like you got a bargain with a flat rate? If not then open with your budget and see what that will get you time wise.

NoLagJustMidlife · Jun 10, 2025

xmontrealer said:
In the past when I used to see a few indies I had some sessions that went well past the time I paid for.

When I felt the hour was up I mentioned it, but once in a while if there was no booking after me the lady said she'd be happy to let me stay for at least a little extra time, at no charge.

Usually it was no more than an extra 30 minutes.

I never booked more than one hour with anybody, and always felt I had more than enough time for fun opening conversation, and the physical activities that followed, in a one hour session.

First, thank you for not making fun of me, or calling me entitled, and sharing your similar experience with independents.

In any case, I’ve just found a few SP on here that offer multi hours packages, some even including dinner dates. So I guess I’m not SOL after all.

NoLagJustMidlife · Jun 10, 2025

Jenesis said:
So if her average rate is 300 an hour and you want 3 hours - what are you willing to pay?

I suppose my perspective might be a bit skewed since I’m still new to this hobby and learning as I go.

If I understand you correctly, the three hours includes everything from the moment I walk in to the moment I leave: greetings, shower, chatting, time together afterward, and the second shower. So essentially, it’s not just the time in bed that’s being counted, but the full experience from start to finish?

That would make sense for the SP, and I can see how that works for many people. Personally though, I’m someone who appreciates a bit of connection first. I like to be kissed before things get intimate, if that makes sense.

Robert Mugabe · Jun 10, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I suppose my perspective might be a bit skewed since I’m still new to this hobby and learning as I go.

If I understand you correctly, the three hours includes everything from the moment I walk in to the moment I leave: greetings, shower, chatting, time together afterward, and the second shower. So essentially, it’s not just the time in bed that’s being counted, but the full experience from start to finish?

That would make sense for the SP, and I can see how that works for many people. Personally though, I’m someone who appreciates a bit of connection first. I like to be kissed before things get intimate, if that makes sense.

Bring one of these along.

Ivy Kent · Jun 10, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I suppose my perspective might be a bit skewed since I’m still new to this hobby and learning as I go.

If I understand you correctly, the three hours includes everything from the moment I walk in to the moment I leave: greetings, shower, chatting, time together afterward, and the second shower. So essentially, it’s not just the time in bed that’s being counted, but the full experience from start to finish?

That would make sense for the SP, and I can see how that works for many people. Personally though, I’m someone who appreciates a bit of connection first. I like to be kissed before things get intimate, if that makes sense.

Yes, you are paying for the time spent. The clock starts when you enter the door, not when sexual activity begins.

Other people appreciate a bit of connection first, and they pay accordingly. Spending three hours with someone, regardless of activity, is three hours.

You will most likely have a hard time finding someone willing to see you for three hours at their one hour rate. Look for someone that appeals to you and offers packages within your budget. Lots of providers prioritise the exact type of experience you are describing.

Jenesis · Jun 11, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I suppose my perspective might be a bit skewed since I’m still new to this hobby and learning as I go.

If I understand you correctly, the three hours includes everything from the moment I walk in to the moment I leave: greetings, shower, chatting, time together afterward, and the second shower. So essentially, it’s not just the time in bed that’s being counted, but the full experience from start to finish?

That would make sense for the SP, and I can see how that works for many people. Personally though, I’m someone who appreciates a bit of connection first. I like to be kissed before things get intimate, if that makes sense.

Yes that makes sense but what doesn’t make sense is that being off the clock.

I use to offer dinner dates and extended dates at a slightly lower rate. Dinner dates were a combination of social time rate and then bedroom time rate. There are some who offer that.

Having said that, that is different then expecting off the clock time. Your time starts and ends when it does and everything in between is included in your time. From the kiss at the door to the shower to the conversation, all of it. You are paying for time with a companion, not a per service rate.

Patron · Jun 11, 2025

This is pretty standard loss leader stuff, and what the entire Sugar Baby scene is built on.

A lady invests a couple of free hours at first, convinces the customer she isn’t a sex worker, or isn’t a traditional sex worker, in hopes of getting a regular customer who doesn’t require as much marketing and overall effort as does a brand new customer. And a customer who might even transfer $5k to his true friend and quasi-lover if she calls and says that Fido or Morris needs an emergency surgery,

It goes both ways. There are many customers in law, accountancy and finance who put their work up for bid every few years and ask each eager firm what ideas they have that are different from what they see the current provider doing. They often get thousands of dollars of free advice. The oldest and richest members of the bid group realize the scam and don’t really want such a short-term and disloyal client.

Honestly that sounds like the goal of the O.P. since he is not doing the Sugar route. Many long inexpensive sessions with few repeats or future money for relatively less sex in return. Like senior people at the professional service firms I described, some of the ladies here note their objection.

massman · Jun 11, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I’m the type of guy who enjoys longer meetings, like 3-4 hours, as it gives us the chance to drink a glass of wine and actually have a conversation before moving on to the activities.

I’ve had a few of these experiences, all of the providers saved my number and want to do it again.

I’m trying to find more of those providers, but for the life of me, I can’t find any with a flat rate, they all seem to advertise per hour or an absurd amount of money (got quoted $3000 today). Though some advertise “Unrushed service”, it turns out that an hour is still an hour apparently.

Is there a market like this or am I just dreaming?

There are many girls who offer longer dates eg “dinner and desert”. The rates are often less per hour than the per / h rate for sex. Everyone is different tho. For some, the hourly rate is the same no matter what the activity.

Question, how is it “rushing” when an “hour is still an hour?” That would seem to me exactly what you have paid for? Now if an “hour” turned out to be 30 min, that would be rushing.

Jenesis · Jun 11, 2025

I will add that if you want a flat rate for like a dinner date then understand it is less money because 2 hrs is spent at dinner and 2 hours is in the bedroom. If you want all your time in the bedroom, it will usually be at the per hour rate. I use to have a 4Hr dinner date rate and a 4 hr bedroom rate. Which was basically at par with my hour rate x 4. I can’t remember exactly but I think it was only 50 cheaper. Maybe an hundred. 25 off per hour. But it was still up there. Where as my dinner rate rate was like 200 off. 100 per hour spent at dinner since my social time rate was 100 less then my hour rate. Consideration for him paying the cost of the meal was taken as well since that could run 150-200 easy with drinks and stuff.

Again, it is by time, not by service. I had both - the 4 hour dinner time rate and a 4 hour bedroom time rate and yet the bedroom time rate was spent with conversation and drinks and getting acquainted but it was not a flat discount rate.

But this is why I got rid of all those packages. Too many guys wanted cheaper flat rates because it was not non-stop action for 4 hrs in the bedroom.

Josephine · Jun 11, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I’m the type of guy who enjoys longer meetings, like 3-4 hours, as it gives us the chance to drink a glass of wine and actually have a conversation before moving on to the activities.

I’ve had a few of these experiences, all of the providers saved my number and want to do it again.

I’m trying to find more of those providers, but for the life of me, I can’t find any with a flat rate, they all seem to advertise per hour or an absurd amount of money (got quoted $3000 today). Though some advertise “Unrushed service”, it turns out that an hour is still an hour apparently.

Is there a market like this or am I just dreaming?

An hour will always be an hour because you pay for our time so there is no reason to overstay your welcome at any given time. It's not nice for her, you take her break time away from her.

That has been said, I personally try to make my longer appointment very interesting price wise because this is what I like to do and I know that all fees like food, drinks and activities will be covered by you. It's also easier for me to do a long appointment than 3 shorts. Just a préférence on my end but no flat rate, no.

massman · Jun 11, 2025

Josephine said:
An hour will always be an hour because you pay for our time so there is no reason to overstay your welcome at any given time. It's not nice for her, you take her break time away from her.

That has been said, I personally try to make my longer appointment very interesting price wise because this is what I like to do and I know that all fees like food, drinks and activities will be covered by you. It's also easier for me to do a long appointment than 3 shorts. Just a préférence on my end.

I will add that @Josephine would be a great person for a longer / dinner date. She’s smart, funny, flirty and enjoys a nice glass of wine. She’s interested in food / dining so she’d be a great dinner date to try out a new amazing restaurant.

Sonic Temple · Jun 11, 2025

NoLagJustMidlife said:
I’m the type of guy who enjoys longer meetings, like 3-4 hours, as it gives us the chance to drink a glass of wine and actually have a conversation before moving on to the activities.

I’ve had a few of these experiences, all of the providers saved my number and want to do it again.

I’m trying to find more of those providers, but for the life of me, I can’t find any with a flat rate, they all seem to advertise per hour or an absurd amount of money (got quoted $3000 today). Though some advertise “Unrushed service”, it turns out that an hour is still an hour apparently.

Is there a market like this or am I just dreaming?

I wish there was a market for this, but do understand the hourly methodology. It would be a great idea though if it ever was to happen.

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