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Butler1000

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Likely at least four opposition members will be unavailable to vote, and the bill will pass.

NDP no leader or cash, BQ no cash, Green no cash. Cons have cash but a weak leader in polling right now. Add in South of the border and he can't win.

Canadians don't want an election right now. That is a fact.
 

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If a Carney gets a majority, I see that as the final nail in the coffin for Canada.
If you are in the age range of 70--100 Carney and his Liberals are not
necessarily the wrong choice to be our leaders. I am below that range
and I am still fine with Carney's policies so far. The final nail in the coffin
won't be in place until majority of folks grow old enough. They can spend
their golden years in the security of a coffin buried deep in the ground.
 
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DesRicardo

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If you are in the age range of 70--100 Carney and his Liberals are not
necessarily the wrong choice to be our leaders. I am below that range
and I am still fine with Carney's policies so far. The final nail in the coffin
won't be in place until majority of folks grow old enough. They can spend
their golden years in the security of a coffin buried deep in the ground.
I disagree. Liberals are neither aggressive enough on helping social services or lowering taxes on wealth for old people to champion.

Nobody really wins here except Carney and his buddies.
 

rgkv

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now that there is no election, Carney can pay for some of his promises
 

DesRicardo

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Why?
What is the logic that supports that statement?
If Poilievre created a budget the the PBO would indirectly suggest is crooked, I highly doubt the message around the media would be "Nobody wants an election right now".

I just don't see it.
 

Valcazar

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If Poilievre created a budget the the PBO would indirectly suggest is crooked, I highly doubt the message around the media would be "Nobody wants an election right now".

I just don't see it.
Strange.
If the other parties aren't in a position to capitalize and the population also doesn't want an election, why wouldn't the media report "Nobody wants an election right now"?
 

DesRicardo

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Strange.
If the other parties aren't in a position to capitalize and the population also doesn't want an election, why wouldn't the media report "Nobody wants an election right now"?
I never said they wouldn't report it.

It just wouldn't be a driving force in their message. As I said, let Poilievre create a budget that the PBO questions it's validity and see how the media covers it.
 

Valcazar

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I never said they wouldn't report it.

It just wouldn't be a driving force in their message. As I said, let Poilievre create a budget that the PBO questions it's validity and see how the media covers it.
How would it not be a "driving force in their message"?
Do you think the fact nobody wants an election right now (as in, most people don't) should not be reported on when there is a vote of no-confidence on the table?

As for your second thing, Pollievre would have to win an election before we could test your theory, and that doesn't seem likely at this time.
 

DesRicardo

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How would it not be a "driving force in their message"?
Do you think the fact nobody wants an election right now (as in, most people don't) should not be reported on when there is a vote of no-confidence on the table?

As for your second thing, Pollievre would have to win an election before we could test your theory, and that doesn't seem likely at this time.
How many times do I have to answer the same question?

As I said, let Poilievre create a budget that the PBO questions it's validity and see how the media covers it.
 
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Butler1000

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Meh, if you support it, Liberals get their budget.
if it goes to elections and liberal get a majority, they get their budget.

I guarantee if this was the other way around, the media would be pushing for a Christmas election.
Damn that parliamentary Democracy!
 

Butler1000

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That's right my man.

At this point I would say there is a pretty clear difference in style if governance between PP and Carney. I agree Carney is an old school Neo Liberal Globalist. But right now we need someone who speaks that language.

Cripes he is opening pipelines, mining, and working on opening markets. And discussing an austerity political climate coming. Dropping immigration levels. He is essentially right of center.
 
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