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Serious Discussion — SPs, or people with extensive experience around SPs, are especially welcome to share their perspectives.

Lately, I’ve been increasingly curious about something:

How and what do SPs actually think about their long-term future?

What are their plans for the years ahead?

Do they think about the fact that physical beauty and youth are, inevitably, temporary? If so, how do they plan to earn a living once their current appeal or marketability diminishes?

I also wonder about the lifestyle we see some “Social Indys” portraying on social media—the luxury, travel, expensive purchases, etc. How sustainable is that lifestyle in the long run? Do they genuinely expect their sugar daddies or benefactors to continue supporting them indefinitely, or do they have other plans and investments in place?

Do SPs eventually think about settling down, transitioning into another career, or simply living a more conventional life?

I’m genuinely curious about what goes on in the minds of people who choose this lifestyle. From my limited understanding, once someone enters this business, transitioning out of it can be quite difficult

The only person I’ve personally come across who seemed to have everything meticulously planned and thought through was Ada Mahr.
 
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Let’s say there’s an in-demand, best-in-the-league kind of SP. How much would she realistically be earning on average? Is it actually possible for an SP to consistently earn upwards of $20K per month, month after month?

I tried to crunch the numbers, but something doesn’t quite add up.

For example, let’s assume a highly sought-after SP is working through an agency at $400/hour:

  • 8-hour shift per day: 8 × $400 = $3,200
  • Agency cut at 30%: $960
  • SP’s take-home: $2,240 per shift
  • 10 shifts per month (which already seems quite high to me): 10 × $2,240 = $22,400
I can understand how an SP could make that kind of money for a few initial months, especially when she’s new and in high demand. But what I’m struggling to understand is whether someone can realistically sustain that level of income consistently for years.

Is my math missing something, or am I underestimating the number of hours/shifts an SP would actually be able to maintain over the long term?
 
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chirkut87 said:
Let’s say there’s an in-demand, best-in-the-league kind of SP. How much would she realistically be earning on average? Is it actually possible for an SP to consistently earn upwards of $20K per month, month after month?

I tried to crunch the numbers, but something doesn’t quite add up.

For example, let’s assume a highly sought-after SP is working through an agency at $400/hour:

  • 8-hour shift per day: 8 × $400 = $3,200
  • Agency cut at 30%: $960
  • SP’s take-home: $2,240 per shift
  • 10 shifts per month (which already seems quite high to me): 10 × $2,240 = $22,400
I can understand how an SP could make that kind of money for a few initial months, especially when she’s new and in high demand. But what I’m struggling to understand is whether someone can realistically sustain that level of income consistently for years.

Is my math missing something, or am I underestimating the number of hours/shifts an SP would actually be able to maintain over the long term?
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The question you should be asking is from the math you did - assuming $22K/month - is their mental health and general well being worth it. Some never really recover from the trauma or whatever you want to call it. Some get out and live a 'normal' life with family and kids and some are forgotten. They chase it, they get it instantly and expect that moving forward which is not the case as mother-time always wins and catches you. So it your mental health and just overall general health worth your$22K/month.

Great discussion, some have it all figured out and some play the game and are brutally honest - I applaud all the SPs that survive and forge their own peace of mind when its all done and dusted.

Hmm who is this Ada Mahr you speak of......:)
 
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Here’s an example of an SP doing it right.

There are also “career SPs” who have demonstrated longevity and seem to be surviving/thriving. Asian Nicole comes to mind.

But I’d say the majority of SPs either a) enter the industry for the wrong reasons and therefore may not know how to exit, b) are changed by the $ they make and develop unsustainable spending habits, c) are not mentally hard-wired or mature enough to plan for the future, or d) all of the above.
 
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I’m also curious to know what people think about this.

I spent around $15K+ on the hobby in total last month. One SP told me she has clients who spend that much with her every month, which honestly came as a bit of a shock to me.

Are there really people who consistently earn enough to spend $15K+ a month on the hobby?
 
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chirkut87 said:
I’m also curious to know what people think about this.

I spent around $15K+ on the hobby in total last month. One SP told me she has clients who spend that much with her every month, which honestly came as a bit of a shock to me.

Are there really people who consistently earn enough to spend $15K+ a month on the hobby?
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Yes, you. Are you even self aware dude lol
 
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I think the vast majority of SP's live hand to mouth the same as a large chunk of the rest of society does and don't see nearly as many clients a day as people seem to think. Probably the busiest are those 120hh Asian places where they see next to nothing of that fee. I also think a lot of the social media content we see about their lavish lifestyle is staged or repetitive from a single trip. Face it, you see a lady always posting her travel pics and showing off the luxury purse or whatever that some client bought them, and they are more attractive to you as a client.

Sure, there are certainly high end ladies who rake it in but I'm talking the vast majority of ladies here.
 
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Unfortunately most sps don’t even think about the future.
The younger they are the more they live in the now.
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This. Book some +50 year olds and chat them up nicely and you'll get more answers.

Along with tons of competition in this industry most aren't making a whole lot factoring in sick days too.

Your numbers aren't that realistic and those who are making a good chunk at times don't have much to show for later on in life compared to others which I lean towards a low percentage.

Most tend to blow it all for today in a sense. It's not as glamorous as some who make it out to seem. No diff in a sense as some real estate agent bragging about their lifestyle.
 
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Ada Mahr:

www.instagram.com

Hello Miss on Instagram: "Hello Ada Mahr"

275 likes, 5 comments - hellomissphotography on May 7, 2024: "Hello Ada Mahr".
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com

I was clearing out my LinkedIn chats last night and came across her messages, which reminded me of her and how incredibly spot-on she was about the timeline and the amount of money she’d need to eventually disappear from the industry.
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What was her timeline and amounts?
 
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What was her timeline and amounts?
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I think she used to be with HPL initially. It wasn't a smooth sailing for her. HPL --> Indy --> Onlyfans --> Indy --> Gone. I met her when she was working as an Independent after the Covid.

Let's not discuss amounts and timelines for a specific individual. (Never know there may be people who may know her in private life and start pestering her).
 
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chirkut87 said:
Serious Discussion — SPs, or people with extensive experience around SPs, are especially welcome to share their perspectives.

Lately, I’ve been increasingly curious about something:

How and what do SPs actually think about their long-term future?

What are their plans for the years ahead?

Do they think about the fact that physical beauty and youth are, inevitably, temporary? If so, how do they plan to earn a living once their current appeal or marketability diminishes?

I also wonder about the lifestyle we see some “Social Indys” portraying on social media—the luxury, travel, expensive purchases, etc. How sustainable is that lifestyle in the long run? Do they genuinely expect their sugar daddies or benefactors to continue supporting them indefinitely, or do they have other plans and investments in place?

Do SPs eventually think about settling down, transitioning into another career, or simply living a more conventional life?

I’m genuinely curious about what goes on in the minds of people who choose this lifestyle. From my limited understanding, once someone enters this business, transitioning out of it can be quite difficult

The only person I’ve personally come across who seemed to have everything meticulously planned and thought through was Ada Mahr.
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Most don't. I've known as few that did. Used the money to either buy real estate for rental income, or to open a legit business. I think there are some who do it during school, just to walk away with no debt.

Most though spend and spend. The money's easy to get, and instant. But I used to see the same think with servers as well.
 
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I came into this industry without a goal in mind but quickly realized that I needed to set my mind on an end goal. I was very materialistic when I first started. Lifestyle creep is real when you start off as a university student just wanting to pay off my school tuition 😩😩

I’ve met a lot of girls who talk about how much they spend and how they always feel like they need more and more money. Hearing them talk about it actually made me realize that it doesn’t make sense to blow through all the money I’m making eespecially when there isn’t really another full time job that would match this kind of income. It definitely made me realize even more how important it is to get my finances in check. I’m also happy that I learned these sorts of lessons when I first started the industry.

Since starting, I’ve managed to max out my TFSA, built up other investments and I recently bought my own property in Toronto. One of my goals before leaving the industry if I ever actually leave, because I genuinely enjoy this job 🤣 is to have my property paid off and enough money invested that I can travel wherever I want without having to worry about anything.

As for an actual exit plan I honestly don’t really have one yet. I know plenty of women who are able to do this job well into their later years, so who knows… maybe I’ll be considered a MILF provider one day 🤭😂

I’d eventually like to find a career where I can use my degree, but that’s definitely a future problem for now.
 
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most of us here are on the outside looking in

so take this with a grain of salt

but from what ive seen

the ones who last arent the ones chasing the bag

theyre the ones who treat it like a job with a clock out time

they keep a life outside

friends hobbies a partner who knows or at least suspects

the ones who burn out are the ones who let it become their whole identity

same as any other job really

just with a lot more temptation and a lot less sympathy

as for relationships

i think its less about the work itself

and more about whether both people can handle the honesty part

some can some cant

no judgement either way
 
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I think a lot of guys here see the lowest cost providers who work a lot of hours in the industry, and they extrapolate that data too universally.

Many higher-end providers do this part-time while they get an education and work first jobs. They will eventually just work their civilian careers full-time and never give much thought to the fun times and great money they earned escorting.

For the low-end providers who don’t make much when young doing this, they will find a new low-earning job if they age out from sex work. There are a shitload of jobs where you don’t have to do a three hour interview and provide a detailed resume.

For the high-end providers who do this full time and make a fortune, they will bank enough to sustain them for life. If not, they will get married to someone who supports their lifestyle.

Sex workers do better than most people throughout life. They know there are guys who are more likely to see them if they do poor-poor pitiful me, so some of them who participate in boards play that up.
 
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