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WyattEarp

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The irony, of course, is voters coming out to vote for something in a ballot initiative and then putting people in power who will override that other decision.
I hope you would agree this is not exclusive to Republican or Democratic politicians.
California State and its voters have been very active utilizing their referendum process. Sacramento politicians often try to work around the voter's will as mandated by referendum.

Why?
Well, because what politician who works hard to get elected wants to give back power to the voters.
First, politicians need support and money from special interest groups to get elected. These groups have their own interests that frequently don't line up with the overall electorate's interests.
More cynically, politicians often have friends and family in the employ of the special interest groups. For that matter, former politicians might wind up lobbying or on a board for the same groups.

One last point that we have probably discussed is U.S. electoral math and the power of the extreme wings in both parties. Ballpark, 30% of the electorate can take over the agenda of a State regardless of popular opinion. That is of course if it is a solid Red state or Blue state. The 30% can essentially control the dominant state party.
 

Frankfooter

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Why?
Well, because what politician who works hard to get elected wants to give back power to the voters.
First, politicians need support and money from special interest groups to get elected. These groups have their own interests that frequently don't line up with the overall electorate's interests.
More cynically, politicians often have friends and family in the employ of the special interest groups. For that matter, former politicians might wind up lobbying or on a board for the same groups.
Is this in the 'more cynical' category?
Or is this trump giving back to the voters.

 

Valcazar

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I hope you would agree this is not exclusive to Republican or Democratic politicians.
Of course it isn't exclusive.
It's a general voting issue.
There is a reason people often try to put referendums on the ballot at the same time as elections.
If you separate them, the odds of people voting for the referendum and then thinking "that's settled" and voting in people opposed to it goes up.
 
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WyattEarp

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Of course it isn't exclusive.
It's a general voting issue.
There is a reason people often try to put referendums on the ballot at the same time as elections.
If you separate them, the odds of people voting for the referendum and then thinking "that' settled" and voting in people opposed to it goes up.
Well, you also have low turnouts in special referendums.
And yes, it's much more effective to have the candidates on the ballot express their views on the simultaneous referendum.
Of course, not every candidate is going to give a candid response.
 
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