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A friend is renting a 5 bedroom house. How to determine odour in one of the rooms??

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We are worried that it may be Urea-Formaldehyde Foam Insulation (UFFI). There are also rumours that the previous owner had a mini grow room in this solarium bedroom. My friend just does not want mould or other toxins poisoning her or her children.

Help please. Where does she go to investigate further.

Syn
 

lovedoc

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We are worried that it may be Urea-Formaldehyde Foam Insulation (UFFI). There are also rumours that the previous owner had a mini grow room in this solarium bedroom. My friend just does not want mould or other toxins poisoning her or her children.

Help please. Where does she go to investigate further.

Syn
http://www.moldinspections.ca/

Many other companies you can compare with over the internet to test mold in your home. There's also a test kit you can purchase, but unsure if they're reliable.

 

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What kind of odor is it? Chemical? Organic?

Do her or any of her children have symptoms of allergic reaction? Headaches, coughing, sneezing, wheezing, trouble breathing, teary eyes, skin rashes, nausea?

As lovedoc says, going to a professional company is the best route, especially if the mold is not visible but suspected. Testing for the presence of other compounds that may or may not be present might prove to be more costly.

She should get a hold of the landlord to start sorting it out. She should not have to bear the cost of any of this. Then again, if there is a problem with the house that is costly to repair, she may as well pack up and move...doubtful that a landlord would want to deal with it. They would most likely just rent it to a more ignorant person.

I am not sure if there are any health regulations that state problems like these must be dealt with in order for a place to be rented. Might want to check that out, too. The local Health Unit might be a good place to start.
 
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I believe that the UFFI scare was proven to be false years ago. Also I believe that if the home has UFFI it must be stated on the MLS listing.
 
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I believe that the UFFI scare was proven to be false years ago. Also I believe that if the home has UFFI it must be stated on the MLS listing.
Person is renting, its not a sale .
odour could be many things,recent addition of new building material carpet, , even pet or human urine etc.
 

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Person is renting, its not a sale .
odour could be many things,recent addition of new building material carpet, , even pet or human urine etc.
Oops you're right. She didn't mention any odour either.

From the CMHC site

Should You Be Concerned About UFFI Today?
Tests show that UFFI is not a source of over-exposure to formaldehyde after the initial curing and release of excess gas. As it was last installed in 1980, it would certainly not be causing excess indoor formaldehyde today. Houses with UFFI show no higher formaldehyde levels than those without it. However, if UFFI comes in contact with water or moisture, it could begin to break down. Wet or deteriorating UFFI should be removed by a specialist and the source of the moisture problem should be repaired.

In new or other well-sealed houses, significant indoor formaldehyde levels may still occur when new carpets or wood composite materials, such as plywood, particleboard and waferboard, are used in home construction, cabinetry and furnishings. These are the most likely sources of high formaldehyde levels in the home today.
 
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Oops you're right. She didn't mention any odour either.

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title of the post A friend is renting a 5 bedroom house. How to determine odour in one of the rooms??
 

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Avoiding Mould Problems and Lawsuits in the

Rental of Residential and Commercial Real Estate

GENERAL

Living or working in rental units that contain elevated levels of airborne mold spores and/or substantial mold growth contamination can cause very severe health problems.

Landlords have ethical and legal obligations to Tenants to provide an environmentally safe, habitable space. Those obligations go unmet when a rental unit is contaminated with mold.

Landlords may have legal liability to Tenants for such compensatory damages as expenses for medical mold diagnostic and treatment procedures, loss of earnings, mold damage to tenants' clothing and personal property, moving expenses, any tenant-paid expenses (such as mold inspection, testing, and remediation of the rental unit and tenant possessions) as well as punitive damages awarded by a jury.

In Hayward, California, a jury in 2004 awarded $4 million dollars in damages because of mold infestation and other substandard living conditions on behalf of 124 past and present tenants of an apartment building whose owner failed to do proper mold remediation and maintenance of the mold contaminated apartments.

If the Landlord accurately and completely inspects and tests for mold (due diligence) and provides complete disclosure to prospective Tenants, and the Tenant’s have full and unrestricted opportunity to inspect and test the rental unit thoroughly prior to signing the lease agreement then the lease agreement may include a clause that releases the Landlord and its rental manager, rental real estate agent/broker, etc. from all mold liability to the Tenant.

AS A TENANT

As a prospective tenant you should inspect the rental unit thoroughly and have mold testing performed by a Certified Mould Inspector before signing the rental agreement.

During the inspection you should do an all-around physical examination of the building for both visible and hidden signs of both water damage and mold growth. If you are doing the inspection yourself and you are concerned about something that you find you should have a Certified Mould Inspector verify your findings before signing the lease agreement. The inspector should mold test the air and any visible mold growth in all rooms, the basement, crawl space, attic, garage, plus the airflow from each HVAC system.

AS A LANDLORD
Do not offer the property for rent until after a thorough mold inspection and mold testing of the entire rental building or of individual rental units (prior to rental) determines that the property is mold-safe for tenants to live or work in.

If there has been a plumbing line break or leak, roof or siding leaks, flooding, storm damage, or other water intrusion problems, the building should be thoroughly and promptly mold inspected, tested, and remediated as part of the water damage repairs and restoration.

If the mold inspection and testing uncovers visible or hidden mold problems, then immediately perform mold remediation. Only use a Certified Mould Remediator and perform independent “clearance testing” of the building after remediation has been completed to ensure successful removal of the contamination.

Never hide or conceal mold contamination by deceptions such as painting over mold growth, concealing mold growth behind stored items, furniture, furnishings, and decorations and masking the distinctive smell of mold growth with air fresheners and deodorizers. Mould contamination does not go away on its own, the problem only gets worse the longer it is left.

Disclose in writing to all prospective tenants any previous or present building water and mold problems, and what the Landlord has done, if anything, to correct such problems. Attach these water damage and mold disclosures to the rental agreement so that the tenant acknowledges receipt thereof.

http://www.mouldinspector.com/rental.html

http://www.ontariotenants.ca/health/black-toxic-mold.phtml
 

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What kind of odor is it? Chemical? Organic?

Do her or any of her children have symptoms of allergic reaction? Headaches, coughing, sneezing, wheezing, trouble breathing, teary eyes, skin rashes, nausea?

As lovedoc says, going to a professional company is the best route, especially if the mold is not visible but suspected. Testing for the presence of other compounds that may or may not be present might prove to be more costly.

She should get a hold of the landlord to start sorting it out. She should not have to bear the cost of any of this. Then again, if there is a problem with the house that is costly to repair, she may as well pack up and move...doubtful that a landlord would want to deal with it. They would most likely just rent it to a more ignorant person.

I am not sure if there are any health regulations that state problems like these must be dealt with in order for a place to be rented. Might want to check that out, too. The local Health Unit might be a good place to start.
Nice Randygirl - Didn't realize you've edited your post to explain this in Cole's version format. How you get so smart?

 
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