Abortion...
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Planned parenthood operates clinic for abortion. Call them and tell them you would like to discuss adoption.DonQuixote said:
Now back to my questionsDonQuixote said:Do you have any idea of how many eligible children go
without being adopted every year in the US? Imagine,
a blue headed baby being adopted by a middle class
white family. Not likely, eh!
do you regret you were not aborted?
Do you wish you had aborted your children?
I am as hesitent to paint all right to lifers with the same brushDonQuixote said:Buffalo has a bloody, deadly history when it comes
to opposition to abortion clinics. Dead doctors, eh!
Right to lifer's like it on their terms, only.
Good to see you are quick to.
The first question is a contrafactual and it's about as sensible as asking what if your parents had never met. The second question answers itself: The people who wanted to abort their children did so. The people who had their children were the ones who had reasons not to want to and presumably are mostly happy with that choice. Maybe the same people, but at different points in their life.papasmerf said:
You are putting very emotionally laden questions here, that are heavy on the rhetoric, but weak on logic.
On your first question:papasmerf said:
Ex post, yes, I am glad I am alive. "Regret" is the wrong word, I wasn't there, so I can't regret anything that I had nothing to do with. However, I'll be charitable and assume what you really meant was "Are you glad you weren't aborted" and sure, I am. It's not possible to use that ex post opinion as an ex ante argument against abortion, though, because had I been aborted I wouldn't have an opinion in the first place. Before I existed, I didn't matter. Now that I exist, I matter, at least to me.
To show you by analogy what is wrong with the question, am I glad I met my wife? Of course! I love my wife. What if I had never met her? Would I regret never having met her? No. I would be happily married to someone else.
In terms of your abortion question, what that means is that if I had never existed as a person because I had been aborted (presumably, my parents life situation would also have to be different, so that they would make that different choice), then that would also be a perfectly good and acceptable outcome--it would be a different, equally good universe, but one that I would not be part of--and since I would not exist in that universe, I wouldn't care. It's equivalent to asking whether I would regret it if my parents had met other, equally good people, and led different lives that didn't include me. Ex post, in this universe, I would regret it; but ex ante I didn't exist and it's silly to ask what I would have thought of it.
Put yet another way, if you meet three women, and can marry just one, do you regret causing the non-existence of the children you will never have with the other two? It's as silly a question as asking whether you regret having an abortion because, ex post, there will be someone you care about if you don't. Each of the marriages you opt against would have produced children you would have loved too, but that is nothing to regret!
That's a long winded way of saying your question is nonsense, but at least now I've spelled out for you why, and hopefully given you an answer.
As for your second question:
I don't have kids, neither living nor aborted, so I can't answer. However, I do know people who are happy that they aborted theirs, and I know people who are happy that they didn't abort theirs. So, it seems that it depends on circumstances.
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