Alan Turing

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Alan Turing did as much as any single individual in the winning of WW II. After the war, he was castrated by the state for being homo and he commited suicide in 1954 at the age of 41.

Finally, the U.K. has apologized for their inhumane treatment of him. Sexual freedom has come a long way in the past 50 years but it still has a long way left to go.
 

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Alan Turing did as much as any single individual in the winning of WW II. After the war, he was castrated by the state for being homo and he commited suicide in 1954 at the age of 41.

Finally, the U.K. has apologized.
Thank you for posting this Rockslinger, absolutely true! Further because Dr. Turing's work was so highly clasified he was never properly honoured even before he was driven to suicide.

A bit more on this
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6830343.ece
 

james t kirk

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I remember reading about this years ago. It is a shame what they did to him. We've come a long way in 50 years in terms of Gay Rights. Always amazes me that some people so actively work to oppose gay rights even to this day.

My response is always, "why do you care?"
 

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Always amazes me that some people so actively work to oppose gay rights even to this day.
Not to hijack a thread about a man who deserves to be far more honoured, but there is a significant difference between the criminalization of consentual sexual activity and the idea that inheritance and next of kin rights are not rights at all unless you call it marriage.
 

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Alan Turing did as much as any single individual in the winning of WW II. After the war, he was castrated by the state for being homo and he commited suicide in 1954 at the age of 41.

Finally, the U.K. has apologized for their inhumane treatment of him. Sexual freedom has come a long way in the past 50 years but it still has a long way left to go.
Again, not to deminish the man at all, because he made significant contributions
to the then nascent science of computers, but it is not clear that his work
had much impact on WWII.
 

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but it is not clear that his work had much impact on WWII.
Historians can debate his contribution to the war effort but let's hope that no rational person will debate that castration was a gross violation of his human rights.
 

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Historians can debate his contribution to the war effort but let's hope that no rational person will debate that castration was a gross violation of his human rights.
It's ironic that the same folks who support his castration are the ones who express such moral outrage and call hand and feet amputations in ME countries barbaric!....:rolleyes:
 

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Between a rock and a hard place
The intelligence of the masses will decide.

 

danmand

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Historians can debate his contribution to the war effort but let's hope that no rational person will debate that castration was a gross violation of his human rights.
Agreed 100%. And he was a great intellect, and made major contributions to
science.
 

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Between a rock and a hard place
Did you notice she is also holding a PRIDE flag? What the hell?
 

WoodPeckr

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LOL!
Not surprised at all.
Cons get befuddled very easily....:eek:
 

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Again, not to deminish the man at all, because he made significant contributions
to the then nascent science of computers, but it is not clear that his work
had much impact on WWII.
What a douchebag comment.

I recommend The Code Book by Simon Singh as a good introduction to Turing, and the greatness of the code breakers in WWII.
 

Aardvark154

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Historians can debate his contribution to the war effort but let's hope that no rational person will debate that castration was a gross violation of his human rights.
I’m not defending the British Government’s actions, but I presume you know that it was hormonal injections not physical castration.
 

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Again, not to deminish the man at all, because he made significant contributions to the then nascent science of computers, but it is not clear that his work had much impact on WWII.
Danmand, to follow up on what Garrett said, I strongly disagree. Turing's work and the whole role of Cryptography and Cryptanalysis where so highly classified both during and after the Second World War - indeed to my knowledge, the only secret known by more than one or two people which was kept secret for a substantial period of time (decades rather than months) - that his role and that of Bletchley Park and the U.S.N.'s Station HYPO (Magic and Purple) have been most seriously underappreciated by the general public for the pivotal indeed crucial role they played in the Allied Victories in the Second World War.
 

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I’m not defending the British Government’s actions, but I presume you know that it was hormonal injections not physical castration.
Which in effect shrinks the testes to the size of raisins.

Betcha you wouldn't want to take one for the team.
 
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