Anyone like philosophy?

[Zoot Allures]

My question is why does consciousness fight so fiercly to survive?

I was not sure this is a serious question, but I realized it is when I discovered famous philosophers have thought about it. is.

Darwin answers it clearly is my first thought -

Organisms that do not fight to survive… do not survive. Those that do pass on genes that make future organisms fight to survive.

So the “will to live” is not a conscious choice as it is shaped by evolution.

But is there a deeper understanding?

Why would any organisms fight to survive? What is there was no fight ?
Then what? The fight only quarantees survival of the fittest.

But Darwinian means the fittest survive . Life has been been without thinking for the vast majority of earth .

Non intelligent life has have been the great survivor in the past.

Intelligence came by mere chance.

All that fight to produce slugs at the top?


If life is all there is, why bother as it will all end anyways

 

[Zoot Allures]

Schopenhauer argued that all living beings are driven by a blind, irrational force he called the Will:

it’s a metaphysical impulse underlying all existence.

Animals fight because life itself wants to continue, using them as vessels.

Not logical or chosen, it just is. Discussion closed

 

[Zoot Allures]

Nietzsche thought survival wasn’t enough. He believed:

Life strives not just to survive, but to expand. SEEN IN even simple animals that show this drive in territorial behavior, mating displays, and competition. The struggle is not fear of death — it’s the expression of life’s energy.

 

[Zoot Allures]

Spinoza, my favorite philosopher as shallow as I have studied them, said every being has a built‑in striving:

Even a stone strives to keep moving

This striving is not emotional — it’s the essence of existence.

 

[Zoot Allures]

I wonder: consciousness is not fighting — the organism is.

Am I on to something here? I cannot decide if it a good question.

Consciousness is just the witness, along for the ride, it does not care.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Go watch midnight gospel.
also I listened to this today

lots of great guests on his show

 

[OntGuy2010]

Watched a few videos of Slavoj Žižek, generally quite interesting but sooner or later began to notice - just asking questions and making observations, without taking any risks especially on the physical side, might be doing more harm than good ? Or at the very least "wasting" much time and energy that can be re-directed towards many more practical problems to be solved or improved?

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Ode to U-Men.


The unemployed and homeless are, in a perverse sense, the lucky ones. Unburdened by mortgages, alarm clocks, performance reviews, and the lifelong indenture of responsibility, they move through society unshackled from commitment. While others kneel before calendars, debt schedules, and quarterly expectations, they possess something rarer: absolute flexibility.

They are free from the anxiety of losing what they do not own, free from the exhaustion of maintaining appearances, and free from the illusion that stability equals fulfillment. Where the housed and employed trade their time for the privilege of stress, the homeless experience a raw, if brutal, form of autonomy—answering to no employer, no balance sheet, and no long-term plan.

Of course, this “freedom” is philosophical rather than practical. It is liberty stripped of comfort, choice stripped of safety, and independence without security. Yet it exposes an uncomfortable truth: much of modern responsibility is less about purpose and more about managed captivity.

 

[unassuming]

My question is why does consciousness fight so fiercly to survive?......

 

[LilyLiefe]

My question is why does consciousness fight so fiercly to survive?

I was not sure this is a serious question, but I realized it is when I discovered famous philosophers have thought about it. is.

Darwin answers it clearly is my first thought -

Organisms that do not fight to survive… do not survive. Those that do pass on genes that make future organisms fight to survive.

So the “will to live” is not a conscious choice as it is shaped by evolution.

But is there a deeper understanding?

Why would any organisms fight to survive? What is there was no fight ?
Then what? The fight only quarantees survival of the fittest.

But Darwinian means the fittest survive . Life has been been without thinking for the vast majority of earth .

Non intelligent life has have been the great survivor in the past.

Intelligence came by mere chance.

All that fight to produce slugs at the top?


If life is all there is, why bother as it will all end anyways

Viktor Frankl spoke about how a person dies an existential death before a physical death in many situations. He wrote Man's Search for Meaning weeks after being liberated from the Turkheim camp. This was a key observation of his; that you could tell someone would pass soon as they seemed to lose that 'Will' that you speak of. I don't believe it is merely an evolutionary trait, we are more than our biology. Also, how does one define intelligent life? Is it merely consciousness and also what is consciousness anyways??

These are some of my favourite questions

 

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[barnacler]

All these people that postulate these things.

What boggles my mind is why anyone accepts these kinds of statements as facts?

These gurus on youtube, talking about our minds, spirits, all sorts of pseudo-scientific bafflegab without the slightest proof.

Reiki for instance

Reiki[a] is a pseudoscientific form of energy healing, a type of alternative medicine created by Mikao Usui in Japan during the 1920s.[1][2] Reiki practitioners use a technique called palm healing or hands-on healing through which, according to practitioners, a "universal energy" is transferred through the palms of the practitioner to the client, to encourage emotional or physical healing. It is based on qi (chi), which practitioners say is a universal life force; there is no empirical evidence that such a life force exists.[3][4]

OK, so some person just started this thing , making claims etc - why do people believe it just because somebody says it?

Philosophers do the same thing. they make statements like, " Man is searching for this or man's spirit yearns for that, or we all have energy levels that need to be cleansed, Fields Force fields Magnetic fields Strawberry fields forever?

Says who? What is the proof?