Apple, iOS 7, iBeacon -- there's no future for NFC

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No future: Apple, iOS 7, iBeacon -- there's no future for NFC
By Jonny Evans
October 11, 2013 9:54 AM EDT26 Comments
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Look, I'm sorry to have to say this as I had such high hopes for the technology, but it has to be said: Apple [AAPL] and its partners appear to have decided that NFC is dead.



NFC -- No Freakin' Cause

I know this is going to disappoint a lot of people who've invested huge amounts of time, money and energy into the contact-free standard. I know there's galleries and museums and payment firms and all sorts of people who've been waiting for the much promised NFC gold rush, but it just isn't going to happen.

To those clutching an NFC device now: Look, I am listening -- I know there's millions of NFC devices out there; I know NFC is being put inside credit cards and travel cards and you're seeing deployment of NFC readers at some large shops and public transportation systems, but the sad truth is this isn't enough to make the tech sexy.

These things just aren't sexy.

Think about it: who in what has become our heavily-taxed, under pressure, penny-pinching, work-seeking, careful shopping, luxury-avoiding, pleasure-denying, slightly desperate, depressed, TV-addicted, hopeless, leaderless, anti-intellectual culture that's enduring the longest recession for 100-years actually wants to swap the cash in their pocket for invisible money in the sky? Who really wants that?

You do? That's fine -- but what if you recognize that NFC is a battery hog, that its insecure, that the standard isn't universal and even within the pro-NFC lobby the usual stupid corporations who claim to be supporting it can't seem to leave their ego outside of their focus group-driven strategizing meetings for long enough to actually agree to pull in the same direction?

There's an alternative, of course, and that's what we're going to see become more widely deployed within this emerging Internet of things:

BLE -- Big Leap Excites

Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE). (Also known as Bluetooth 4.0 and Bluetooth Smart).

The shift's already begun: NFC took a hit when Google Wallet dumped support for loyalty cards and introduced support for BLE within Android (as ever, after Apple had clearly shown its interest in the technology, as history will eventually record because it happens to be true).

PayPal has introduced BLE Beacon. There are truckloads of BLE-supporting watches hitting market (including that awful Samsung thing). Most new smartphones host BLE, few NFC. That's because NFC chips are stupidly low range and need to be capable of handling all the different NFC "standards" out there (did I mention corporate stupidity?)

If you've read this far you might be one of the critics who slam the iPhone for its lack of NFC support. Perhaps you've even invested in a handset that does support NFC. Either way, in very few cases will you actually use the contactless payment tech: but you probably already use Bluetooth from time-to-time.

You yell: "But what about infrastructure!"

There's no BLE infrastructure in retail, you mutter. You say there's already NFC deployments and lots of big interests pushing these systems. I agree this is all true: but you have to think of this in the same way as the long war between HD-DVD and Blue-ray -- the two systems will co-exist for a while but there will be a winner in the end. And it won't be NFC.

The infrastructure gap disappears when Apple and others introduce small low-powered connected systems that can create infrastructure for various uses within retail parks, shops and other public places.
That's part of what its quietly discussed iBeacons system is all about.
Apple has elected to bake the BLE standard inside iOS 7, making the full SDK stack available. In future it will make this widely available, a la USB or FireWire proliferation.
Software is everything

It's not just the standard. Software is everything. Hardware is nothing without it -- and BLE is easier for developers to implement within their solutions. ElGato are cooking up some amazing products that combine ingenious software with BLE, for example. They aren't alone. It only takes a few major names to put their weight behind BLE in order that NFC becomes completely out-manoeuvred.

There will be a certain ironic satisfaction to be derived from this change -- one of the bigger investors in NFC are the very same financial firms whose poor decisions led the global economy into the sad state in which it finds itself today. I imagine a lot of people living with the consequences of those decisions may be pretty happy to imagine the agents responsible taking a hammering in yet another of their investments.

Who could drive the BLE explosion? Apple, Google, Microsoft, PayPal, and almost every device manufacturer are already moving to adopt it. That's gonna drive it. Get real.

We are entering the land of product imagination, in which we gather from time-to-time to consider how new technologies, ideas and processes can be gathered together in new and innovative ways, where product dreamers gather in the firelight to dance the dance of creative expression through future-focused connected solutions design.

For success, BLE (or NFC) just needs to summon some divinely inspired product designers and software specialists to translate their firelight vision into new families of devices that really add value to the human experience.

Ultimately that's what technology is really about, improving existing experiences and opening the doors of perception to enable new ones.

If you're serious about getting into connected devices and wearable tech it's time to begin kicking the tires of BLE. And I'll add a reality check: NFC is likely to struggle along for a while -- you'll see it continue in some deployments, particularly given the vested interests behind it, but it will not be the great enabler of the Internet of things it has been expected to be. NFC will co-exist with BLE, but only as a poor and less popular cousin.

That's why you're seeing BLE appear in lost and found applications, health and fitness apps, automation, security, advertising, and more. BLE is the future. NFC isn't.
 

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The bricks and mortar infrastructure hurdle is not one to sneeze at. From what I understand, NFC phones works with a lot of existing POS readers that people are already using to wave their credit card chip over. Ie MasterCard PayPass. VISA Paywave, etc are all based on the same reader communications that NFC uses, and they are already out there.
 

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The bricks and mortar infrastructure hurdle is not one to sneeze at. From what I understand, NFC phones works with a lot of existing POS readers that people are already using to wave their credit card chip over. Ie MasterCard PayPass. VISA Paywave, etc are all based on the same reader communications that NFC uses, and they are already out there.
Has anyone done this... anyone?
 

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Has anyone done this... anyone?
Personally no because it needs a US credit card, but plenty of people were doing it with their galaxy nexus when I had one.
Once activated it worked fine in Canada, but I couldn't be bothered to go through the activation process of pretending I'm in the US and funding it in US dollars.
 

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Personally no because it needs a US credit card, but plenty of people were doing it with their galaxy nexus when I had one.
Once activated it worked fine in Canada, but I couldn't be bothered to go through the activation process of pretending I'm in the US and funding it in US dollars.
This has that urban myth feel to it, tons of Android users here yet NO ONE has actually done an NFC transaction. Telling eh

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I use NFC to transfer files and contacts all the time, its easy and slick.
 

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This has that urban myth feel to it, tons of Android users here yet NO ONE has actually done an NFC transaction. Telling eh

OTB
Yup. Visa Paywave and MC Paypass inputs in retailers support NFC. Yet to this day, I haven't seen anyone make a payment with their mobile.
 

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Yup. Visa Paywave and MC Paypass inputs in retailers support NFC. Yet to this day, I haven't seen anyone make a payment with their mobile.
I've seen a person do it, but I don't know what wallet software they were using.
 

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This has that urban myth feel to it, tons of Android users here yet NO ONE has actually done an NFC transaction. Telling eh

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No myth. A quick google search will find posting by plenty of people using it as well as location in the US where it is accepted.

Since the US (unlike the rest of the world) doesn't have chip and pin yet, I suspect they don't have many terminals with the NFC capability. Whereas in Canada mastercard has been doing it for a while and visa are now promoting it. Telus just announced they are going to issue SIMs with an NFC chip in it. I'm pretty sure I read that the competition is going for a similar push of NFC. I don't use my phone because the wallet software isn't supported in Canada, but if it was I would use it. By this time next year I think NFC will be becoming quite common place in Canada.

BTW, here's a guy who has forced google wallet onto his phone and using it to pay at Tim Hortons here in Canada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIXqYojlWgI
 

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No myth. A quick google search will find posting by plenty of people using it as well as location in the US where it is accepted.

Since the US (unlike the rest of the world) doesn't have chip and pin yet, I suspect they don't have many terminals with the NFC capability. Whereas in Canada mastercard has been doing it for a while and visa are now promoting it. Telus just announced they are going to issue SIMs with an NFC chip in it. I'm pretty sure I read that the competition is going for a similar push of NFC. I don't use my phone because the wallet software isn't supported in Canada, but if it was I would use it. By this time next year I think NFC will be becoming quite common place in Canada.

BTW, here's a guy who has forced google wallet onto his phone and using it to pay at Tim Hortons here in Canada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIXqYojlWgI
The fact that you have to go to Youtube to find an example is proof enough of the failure it's been.
 

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The fact that you have to go to Youtube to find an example is proof enough of the failure it's been.
You rejected someones statement on here as a myth. I provided you with a video but that's not good enough. What the fuck do you want?
The fact that someone got it working in Canada was a big deal and worthy of a video posting.

You might be right long term, but short term you are not. NFC is quite popular in Canada and it's coming to phones in the very near future.. What the means in the US? I don't know, but you guys are still commonly using cheques and magnetic strips on credit cards, so who knows...
 

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OTB & DJK Giive it F**king Rest !!! Apple Can't Do NFC - LIVE WITH IT !!!!

I feel sorry for you guys - as a past Apple owner - I know how hard it is to acknowledge that Apple is not a leader, is no longer the innovator and not even the smartphone sales leader. Apple stock has lost billions. But time and progress marches on while you guys hunt and dig up any articles that give any hope that Apple is still relevant in the market. All of these articles are either excuses why Apple can't perform functions most owners take for granted or some sales figures proving the 15 year old female teen market is strong ...but nothing innovative.

All the desperate articles - it is a sad commentary as two old men in the gallery write shit loads of negative articles trying to convince themselves (certainly not Android users) that they are not dinosaurs in a rapidly evolving world of technology.

News Item : NFC transactions are now available and in use in Canada : http://www.itbusiness.ca/news/rogers-brings-nfc-payments-to-android-and-blackberry-smartphones/31001

While searching - not hard since the service is active - for people using their NFC, you Apple blow hearts seem to miss the key difference between Apple & Android users:

Apple has made the choice for you - so you are desperately posting weak justifications for their decision.

Android uses have the NFC feature and as with all the aspects of our open platform: We can choose if or when we use the NFC

People have posted the wide world of applications available to us with NFC that you don't have. Yes - we can in the future (or now) use NFC transactions but also file transfers, messaging, programming tags (I used these - they are handy) and recently I was at a communications show where there were companies bringing out features including security locks, machine programming and other products centred around NFC. Oddly no one at their booth had iPhone !

Give it a rest - for those of us in the know - these arguments are truly pathetic.
 

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Wow, a toy tha,t as the article said, won't play much of a role in the market until 2016, an eternity in the telecommunication biz.
 

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I feel sorry for you guys - as a past Apple owner - I know how hard it is to acknowledge that Apple is not a leader, is no longer the innovator and not even the smartphone sales leader. Apple stock has lost billions. But time and progress marches on while you guys hunt and dig up any articles that give any hope that Apple is still relevant in the market. All of these articles are either excuses why Apple can't perform functions most owners take for granted or some sales figures proving the 15 year old female teen market is strong ...but nothing innovative.

All the desperate articles - it is a sad commentary as two old men in the gallery write shit loads of negative articles trying to convince themselves (certainly not Android users) that they are not dinosaurs in a rapidly evolving world of technology.

News Item : NFC transactions are now available and in use in Canada : http://www.itbusiness.ca/news/rogers-brings-nfc-payments-to-android-and-blackberry-smartphones/31001

While searching - not hard since the service is active - for people using their NFC, you Apple blow hearts seem to miss the key difference between Apple & Android users:

Apple has made the choice for you - so you are desperately posting weak justifications for their decision.

Android uses have the NFC feature and as with all the aspects of our open platform: We can choose if or when we use the NFC

People have posted the wide world of applications available to us with NFC that you don't have. Yes - we can in the future (or now) use NFC transactions but also file transfers, messaging, programming tags (I used these - they are handy) and recently I was at a communications show where there were companies bringing out features including security locks, machine programming and other products centred around NFC. Oddly no one at their booth had iPhone !

Give it a rest - for those of us in the know - these arguments are truly pathetic.
y u so mad, bro?
 

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No myth. A quick google search will find posting by plenty of people using it as well as location in the US where it is accepted.

Since the US (unlike the rest of the world) doesn't have chip and pin yet, I suspect they don't have many terminals with the NFC capability. Whereas in Canada mastercard has been doing it for a while and visa are now promoting it. Telus just announced they are going to issue SIMs with an NFC chip in it. I'm pretty sure I read that the competition is going for a similar push of NFC. I don't use my phone because the wallet software isn't supported in Canada, but if it was I would use it. By this time next year I think NFC will be becoming quite common place in Canada.

BTW, here's a guy who has forced google wallet onto his phone and using it to pay at Tim Hortons here in Canada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIXqYojlWgI
We'll see. I'd like NFC, iBeacon or whatever take off. But I think there's a series of challenges for adoption in North America.
 

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