This thread made me laugh my behind off!
"Ladies seem to wiggle a lot and sometimes grab hold of my head. Guess it may be suggestion to do it differently, plus they seem to be eager to have their turn on me .... I mean like WTF?" I think you're right Dave, you're probably not that great at it.
The honesty SHOCKS me (I've always dated men who believe they are going to 'change' me - I don't like daty and will never finish with it), and the humor ... I'm still laughing.

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I will like to note, that not all women even like daty. Some do, of course. I have liked it with about 2 boyfriends in my entire life- that's it. I have read and heard that women finish with daty much easier but bathroom talk with the girls tells me a whole different story. Seems more women don't like it than even I expected.
Plus, it's a gamble for someone like me. ike if the guy isn't doing a good job I feel bad making him stop and honestly, I will just moan my way to no tomorrow because making my boyfriend feel bad about himself is not going to make daty any better. Everyone has their strong and weak points and no one, NO ONE is 100% perfect. Sometimes the chemistry just isn't there between 2 people (so it might be good with one but not another and for no real reason).
People need to learn what their strong points are (or strong chemistry points between one another) and put more effort into that. (it's like when women know they have a great booty, they wear something that emphasizes it).
-- Thanks for the giggles. That was fun to read.