Asking College Students if They Know Why They are Protesting

[JohnLarue]

I despise Hamas and have no hatred for Jews but many have been brainwashed into hating and dehumanizing Palestinians. Israel is quite capable of defending itself from Hamas rockets, and they could probably capture Hamas leaders without killing many 1000s of civilians if they wanted to, but ethnic cleansing is more to their liking.

1. do not be ridiculous
Hamas do not wear uniforms and intentionally hide amongst the population
they have 350 kms of tunnels in Gaza to hide in
if you use human shields in a war, human shields will be killed
Hamas does not give a rats ass about the Palestinian civilians

2.

I despise Hamas and have no hatred for Jews

this war is win or die for Israel and its Jewish population
protests against Israel is support for Hamas

3.

Israel is quite capable of defending itself from Hamas rockets

no country in the world would accept on going rocket attacks

this is pure hate driven evil & genocide

"Remember the 7th of October!" "That will happen not one more time, not five more times, not 10 more times, not 100 more times, not 1000 more times, but 10,000 times!"

and you are supporting this pure hate driven evil & genocide

 

[Frankfooter]

1. do not be ridiculous
Hamas do not wear uniforms and intentionally hide amongst the population
they have 350 kms of tunnels in Gaza to hide in
if you use human shields in a war, human shields will be killed
Hamas does not give a rats ass about the Palestinian civilians
2.this war is win or die for Israel and its Jewish population
protests against Israel is support for Hamas
3.
no country in the world would accept on going rocket attacks
this is pure hate driven evil & genocide
and you are supporting this pure hate driven evil & genocide

Or you could end the occupation of Palestine and not have to genocide the indigenous population to stop them resisting the occupation.

 

[Kautilya]

Then why did multiple posters not understand the point you were trying to make?

As I mentioned. your cognitive deficiencies are not my problem.

 

[Leimonis]

Oscar Wilde famously said that 'with age comes wisdom'.

You may be proof that that is not always true.

Regardless, you are guilty of promoting ageism.

He said “With age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone.” He was not wrong

 

[JohnLarue]

Old people like you are just on the wrong side of history, larue.
Its only old people that back the genocide and only old people who are science deniers.

??
I have never divulged my age on this website

you on the other hand were born and have been a fool ever since

it is so ironic that you are unable to understand how your decision to drop out of high school has hindered your understanding of complex issues

you have lumped all people who support two completely unrelated issues together

you are not very bright

 

[JohnLarue]

He said “With age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone.” He was not wrong

youth are filled with ''piss and vinegar''

I am not sure that is the best combination to elicit informed, properly considered objective opinions

 

[silentkisser]

???
if you hate Hamas, you are supporting them by protesting against Israel (jews)
i know it is a two step application of logic, is that beyond your capabilities ?

they are mortal enemies, Hamas wants to eliminate Israel (jews) and Israel (Jews) is (are) no fan of that idea
So, if you hate both , it raises the question who don't you hate?
what the value of an opinion driven by hatred ?

hatred is not a good rational for any action , including protesting
protesting is an attempt at moral suasion. When was the last time hatred held the moral high ground ?
but alas , you chose the word hate

a better rational might be you oppose Hamas's barbaric actions
you could also oppose actions by Israel (Jews) to defend itself (themselves)
but then you are back to supporting Hamas by protesting against Israel (Jews)

the other obvious reason if you hate Hamas and you hate Israel (Jews) , your view is not fully expressed at a protest
Protests against Israel (Jews) are perceived by the public as just that 'a Protests against Israel (Jews)" and only Israel (Jews)
protesting is an attempt at moral suasion of the public
are you sure you only want the public to know about only 50% of your hatred?

now you could go and protest against both Hamas and Israel (jews) at the same time , but you would just be the lone blithering idiot screaming hatred on the street corner.



enough nuance to differentiate between hatred and opposing

Very myopic response I see. OK, here's the point: You can separate Jews from Israel. I actually know a number of Jews who are disgusted by this war. Sure, they want Israel to be secure, but not to see thousands of innocent people die. Or, do you view them as future Hamas members and therefore worthy of death?

I know critical thinking isn't exactly your strong suit, but surely you can see why people, including Jews, have issue with the humanitarian crisis for those stuck in Gaza. Since when did speaking out against Israel means you hate jews? Here is the big takeaway for you: You can hate Hamas for being terrorists, but you can also call out Israel for what it is doing -- which is no better in many ways. Thinking that does not mean I believe Israel does not have the right to exist or defend itself. Can you tell me Israel has the moral high ground here now? What about all the protests in Israel that are calling out the government for this war?

The world is not black or white, like you want to believe. That is fine. Sad, but fine.

 

[Kautilya]

Very myopic response I see. OK, here's the point: You can separate Jews from Israel. I actually know a number of Jews who are disgusted by this war. Sure, they want Israel to be secure, but not to see thousands of innocent people die. Or, do you view them as future Hamas members and therefore worthy of death?

I know critical thinking isn't exactly your strong suit, but surely you can see why people, including Jews, have issue with the humanitarian crisis for those stuck in Gaza. Since when did speaking out against Israel means you hate jews? Here is the big takeaway for you: You can hate Hamas for being terrorists, but you can also call out Israel for what it is doing -- which is no better in many ways. Thinking that does not mean I believe Israel does not have the right to exist or defend itself. Can you tell me Israel has the moral high ground here now? What about all the protests in Israel that are calling out the government for this war?

The world is not black or white, like you want to believe. That is fine. Sad, but fine.

Why do you argue with him? He is factually inaccurate and is arguing in bad faith. His bad faith arguments and his lack of actual knowledge renders your efforts at educating him futile, and his objections irrelevant.

 

[Frankfooter]

??
I have never divulged my age on this website

you on the other hand were born and have been a fool ever since

it is so ironic that you are unable to understand how your decision to drop out of high school has hindered your understanding of complex issues

you have lumped all people who support two completely unrelated issues together

you are not very bright

Your rough age is easy to guess, larue, based on your posts and the sources you use for your posts along with your attitudes.
Even if you aren't old, you have the mentality and views of old people.

Shall we discuss your desire to cut all social programs except CPP?

 

[shack]

Oh it exists...All it takes is the US to exercise their veto at the UN to pretend it is not genocide

Seeing as all of the rules were followed using due process, there is nothing unfair or nefarious going on here.

The body of the UN has passed no resolutions declaring that Israel has committed suicide. They passed resolution number 1761 against S. African in 1962, but NOTHING OF THE SORT regarding Gaza. And that's the bottom line. Go cry in your beer.

 

[shack]

Are you trying to out people on this board shack?

Are you trying to foment hate by using hate speech? That's a federal crime, Geno, Man of Mystery.

 

[The Oracle]

Your rough age is easy to guess, larue, based on your posts and the sources you use for your posts along with your attitudes.
Even if you aren't old, you have the mentality and views of old people.

So how old are you exactly?

 

[shack]

Fuck off with personal questions.
This is an anonymous board.

No one is forcing you to stay.

 

[shack]

Besides, why are you on these threads if you've never been to Gaza?

Why are you on TERB and almost exclusively in the Politics Forum, never elsewhere, creating unprecedented discord in our community?

 

[shack]

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You don't understand the difference between saying someone on this board is old vs saying they are an 83 year old, overweight Jew?[/QUOTE]Personal attacks. Ageism.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789349083779314069

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This is over the line hate speech.

 

[wigglee]

Seeing as all of the rules were followed using due process, there is nothing unfair or nefarious going on here.

The body of the UN has passed no resolutions declaring that Israel has committed suicide. They passed resolution number 1761 against S. African in 1962, but NOTHING OF THE SORT regarding Gaza. And that's the bottom line. Go cry in your beer.

I cry for the 15000 children Israel has slaughtered.

 

[shack]

I cry for the 15000 children Israel has slaughtered.

Even though the number is in question, no argument with the sentiment regarding kids. But what are your feelings on:

1)Hamas initiating Israel's retaliation for Oct. 7, which was totally predictable and Hamas knowing that the brunt of that retaliation would be borne by Gazan civilians. In hindsight, should they have launched that attack?

2)Hamas building their infrastructure in and around schools, hospitals, residential areas etc. while Hamas hid in their tunnels. In essence Hamas put them in harms way intentionally. These tactics have been verified multiple times.

Does Hamas bear some part of the culpability in regards to those kids.

 

[Frankfooter]

Seeing as all of the rules were followed using due process, there is nothing unfair or nefarious going on here.

The body of the UN has passed no resolutions declaring that Israel has committed suicide. They passed resolution number 1761 against S. African in 1962, but NOTHING OF THE SORT regarding Gaza. And that's the bottom line. Go cry in your beer.

The UN has also passed no resolutions declaring shack is right and Israel should have won Eurovision.
They have yet to pass a resolution on university protests or even Jerry Seinfeld.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789896407198941478

 

[Frankfooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789349083779314069

This is over the line hate speech.

Its accurate, Israel is a terrorist state committing genocide, a state that has wiped Palestine off the maps and has killed 25,000 women and children.
A state that has turned a concentration camp with 2 million people into a giant extermination camp.

Thursday, at the ICJ.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790343551345455409

 

[Frankfooter]

Does Hamas bear some part of the culpability in regards to those kids.

No.

Israel chose genocide.
Israel chose the blockade.
Israel chose apartheid.
Israel chose to occupy Palestine.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790329945572471261