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e26889

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My regular wasn't available...so decide to jump back into the hobby fray. Let's just say this is making me just give up on hobbying in Ottawa.

I'm just going to leave it as AVOID.

Cheers!
E

Ps...never trust the little head...ugh. So disappointed right now and so much lighter in the wallet.

This is her "partner" also. I would recommend avoiding.
 

Slickjoe

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Agreed - it's getting stupid out there with all the scammers
Not worth the risk anymore. The # of scammers has to be at least 80%. Hurts the real ladies trying to make an honest living.
What would you say is the most common scam? I’ve got info from girls then just never took the plunge on some but the booking seems legit? Do you think it’s mostly a bait and switch situation?
 

e26889

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In most cases for me...I can't speak for others.

It's has been the "deposit" scam. This was mainly when I just started hobbying. Nowadays...if asked...even from my regular...I will decline.

But recently it's been booking with fairly decent looking girls and then getting very unprofessional services. Eg. Girl is drunk/high/still drinking, or that they spend more time on their phones while they have already started the clock countdown (perhaps chatting with their pimp or other partner), or the 10 minutes into the 60 min session saying you need to cum.

I've also of recent, in Ottawa, seen a much higher intake of girls not going though on services discussed (after the donation has been taken). I know bait and switch has been mainly with advertising as one type of girl and showing up as a different. But I am finding there is so many Leolist scammers that bait and switch their services provided. This is my biggest peeve as I try to be very certain on the limits and restrictions. I am very particular and I always outline the services I am looking for so the lady and I are on the same page.

Lately...I arrive...pay...then it's a switch up. I don't do that. You need to pay more. Do you have more money. That's a different extra. That's another cost. When you don't pay up on the "extras" then all you get is maybe a HJ from the provider with her counting down and saying you need to cum now or leave. I will tell you...I never pay an extra high premium just for a HJ...I could go elsewhere for that...

Additionally, most Ottawa providers seem to have quite a high stance of themselves. Often boasting that they book clients for an hour but are able to make them cum in 20 min so that is the max you should get even if you paid up for an hour. Personally, I like taking my time...which is why I book an hour and not HH. And if it's an hour...I am looking to at least be there for a min 40 min. If I blow at 30 and there still half a session...I may not look for a second shot...just normal cuddle time or just "shoot the shit" time. Also, maybe I'm not one of those young jackrabbits that blow my load fast enough for these young scammers?

Anyhow...my two cents on the Ottawa provider scene and how I likely will hang them up for Ottawa for a while... Should have left the thinking to the big head and saved the cash for Toronto. I am just hoping my post saves other the harm...

Cheers!
E
 

e26889

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Might be worth providing such warnings in the 411 as there a certain members on this board that will complain and report a post for reviews that aren’t useful due to lack of detail.
Totally get where you're coming from DATY...and much appreciate your advice because yes...I've seen alot of those members do a ton of complaining of late...But I think if those members read my further comments...they can read between the lines for the "review".

I don't enjoy outright bashing a provider (even if they definitely deserve it)...it's not my style...so it takes so much fustration for me to even post a neg comment.

If someone want all the details, they are more than free to PM me...I have always on this board been very free to provide/explain my experiences privately.

An outright negative review either 1) brings out all the white knights, 2) have people misconstrue the intent, 3) hurts feelings because they feel differently than my experience, 4) has people berating me saying my experience is false. So instead...I just want to leave review that says avoid and if you want to know the exact reason...read between the lines or PM me.

Cheers!
E
 

e26889

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Agreed - it's getting stupid out there with all the scammers
Not worth the risk anymore. The # of scammers has to be at least 80%. Hurts the real ladies trying to make an honest living.
Honestly...the stupid little head was too overbearing today...and decided that it would be "fun" to be "adventurous". This appointment was neither of those..unless you like drunk, ill content, totally inexperienced and rude providers.

That number has to be 90% now...I think especially with all the mergers LL has had.

Will instead save my dollars for Toronto and Montreal scene which seem to have more reliable providers.
 

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Might be worth providing such warnings in the 411 as there a certain members on this board that will complain and report a post for reviews that aren’t useful due to lack of detail.
Doing that here will probably start various flame wars and get people banned.
Where's Cowboy Kenny when we need him?
CK used to call out scammers on his own site. Hilarious. He outed SPs with fake pictures, fake services, pimps, B&S - He used to get a lot of hate from those low-lifes.
 

e26889

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Doing that here will probably start various flame wars and get people banned.
Where's Cowboy Kenny when we need him?
CK used to call out scammers on his own site. Hilarious. He outed SPs with fake pictures, fake services, pimps, B&S - He used to get a lot of hate from those low-lifes.
I will leave it to the Mod. If he wishes to move it, I am more than amicable to it. As an old timer...I have no idea on how to navigate that process.

Yup...really do miss CK. His writing prose had a flair to it and it was a great research tool which we are missing these days.

Cheers!
E
 

Willie Layer

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CK pretty much stopped because it was too much work. Nowadays scammers are so pervasive it’s useless trying to out them all.
 

DirtyMiind

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CK pretty much stopped because it was too much work. Nowadays scammers are so pervasive it’s useless trying to out them all.
Probably easier and much less work to just have a reputable providers list.

Like others, I've thrown in the towel when it comes to hobbying in Ottawa. Toronto will be getting my money from here on out.
 
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same here.
i have also thrown in the towel.
all i have left is a facecloth - and i am holding onto that one for a little while - just in case.
the abundance of scammers is like a cockroach infestation.
you can stomp on one of them, but there are hundreds more that will come out of the cracks to take over.
it has proven to be a losing game.
i have literally wasted enough of my hard-earned money on this losing proposition.
 
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Might be worth providing such warnings in the 411 as there a certain members on this board that will complain and report a post for reviews that aren’t useful due to lack of detail.
Thanks for the heads up I appreciate it. If those members need to do that to be fulfilled than they can fill their boots.

I'm not referring to any particular provider. Probably because I can't remember all of them since I didn't review them.

I will say I seen Selina (4037) in Nepean yesterday. Same unfulfilling experience. Goodlooking girl nice body and skin. No kissing cbj(I respect that) not much of anything. Pretty clinical.
 

purpleshaft

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same here.
i have also thrown in the towel.
all i have left is a facecloth - and i am holding onto that one for a little while - just in case.
the abundance of scammers is like a cockroach infestation.
you can stomp on one of them, but there are hundreds more that will come out of the cracks to take over.
it has proven to be a losing game.
i have literally wasted enough of my hard-earned money on this losing proposition.
Agreed its gotten to be a waste of time. You just know you're not going to have fun.

Maybe it was my mistake for not trying Mia or another certain blonde in Gatineau I've seen reviews here. Can't think of her name atm.
 

steelcitysid

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The sending of deposits I would say is the most common. If the ‘girl’ finds all sorts of excuses that prevent her being able to prove their legitness, then it’s a scam right off the bat, especially if requiring a deposit for incall. Othwuse it’s the B&S. if the girl clearly isn’t the girl in the ad, never agree to payment upfront. Afterall, if they lied about appearance, what’s stopping them from lying about services. Although difficult to do, it almost always best just to walk away from the appointment. I myself have been guilty of staying when I really should’ve walked out. Most recently I stuck around for a session cause the girl looked somewhat cute gnd, but then I ended up disappointed with her body, got next to no service, and didn’t even realize during the session she had somebody in the washroom during the entire time I was there. Even before I arrived, it felt she had a pimp. She would only tell me the room number once I got onto the floor. The moment I get off the elevator and msg her, coincidentally some black guy walks out of a room and down the hall and eyes me as he waits for the elevator. Should of immediately turned back to leave.
This is why it helps to stick with a reputable agency and see a classy lady there. More money but a better piece of mind.
 
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