Bad call client moves to Orillia

[feminista]

A bad caller from Barrie who is known to all the agencies and some of the independents has moved to Orillia. Apparently this week he and his buddy held a girl against her will for hours.

That agency has informed some of the other agencies about this address change. Any SP's who want the new address on Atherly Road in Orillia can PM me.

 

[The Lurker]

Seriously. PM the cops. The last thing we need is another BTK.

 

[George OTJ]

What he said. This time they let the girl go. What about next time?

 

[feminista]

when the agency I am with encountered these idiots months ago, the owner and those involved went and made police reports. They actually called immediately but it was the weekend and the cops said they were too busy and that those involved could come in and make reports later.

The owner informed all the other agencies, most of whom had already had serious incidents with these jerks.

I just heard about this today, apparently it happened in the last week with an unlicensed agency. I don't know if that's why they didn't report but they did call some of the agencies to warn them about the new address.

They rob the girls, push them around and confine them until they feel like letting them go.

I would report them if I could but I don't have the specifics beyond the address. It is up to those involved to report.

Frankly, the last time the cops just went and got the purses back and seemed to try to talk the girls out of pursuing charges. Nothing much happened when the cops were contacted immediately.

 

[The Lurker]

Wow. Kinda puts a perspective on what we call a hobby. Protect the girls first, then come after the Johns! It ain't rocket or FEMA science Mr. LE.

But that's just me. But appearantly, that's just me.

 

[feminista]

it's just U and just us, but not the cops. not yet.

i was shocked that they didn't have to charge when an assault was involved -regardless of whether the victims wanted to or not. initally the girls did want to but after they got the purses back and police were done saying what a hassle it would be they decided not to.

one cop actually lectured them about being escorts.

it's tough enuf just worrying about potentially being identified in the newspaper as an escort if the case makes it to trial.

I only know of one case that went all the way to a trial date and as soon as the attacker saw that the escort actually showed up for the trial -he pleaded guilty.

 

[Alexis69]

Where were the drivers ??

Did anyone try to get in before hours ?


Sounds like that agency didnt even call the cops cause if you say a friend is being attacked the cops should show up extremely fast .........or are they slow because you mentioned an angency .........Whatever line you need to say to get them in faster to catch these creeps i would think !

 

[feminista]

this occured on a two hour 2 girl call. though the incident began shortly into the 2nd hour the girls couldn't call out for another half hour.

the driver arrived quickly in the driveway about to go in as the 2 girls ran out and jumped in with the guys fast on their heels. the guys only had one purse and they got the 2nd one during a struggle right in the passenger side of the car. they also damaged the car.

these 2 guys were big and very drugged up.

thr driver and girls stayed on the street and waited for the owner who has in the past negotiated well with some unreasonable characters. When she got there they said if she took another step towards the house they would rape her. She returned to her car (which I was in) and called the cops. She told them 2 girls were robbed and physically attacked and that they damaged the drivers car and threatened to attack her. They also said they were ready to take the cops down.

They said they would deal with it asap but that it was vewry busy and there were no available cops and that they would call when one became available for them to give statements.

 

[feminista]

i just realized you might be talking about the recent incident with the other company. I have no details on that.

 

[JeremytheWicked]

Honestly, this is pretty disturbing stuff!

I'm pissed to think the cops wouldnt do anything. An assault was committed!
Its not the U.S. where the victim gets to decide to press charges, its Canada where charges should be pressed by the cops even if the victim doesnt want them to be!

If it was me, Id want some names and numbers of these cops to take to my lawyer.

I dont care what the women do for a living or what they were doing at the time - assault is wrong and ILLEGAL.

 

[feminista]

have cops in simcoe county ever busted a massage parlour?

 

[Gumby07]

Probably not yet. After all, it takes several months of monitoring from a distance, then a few months of undercover work. Busting an MP takes time!!!

Gumby©

 

[orangeshirt]

anyone think that the cops might be encouraging them?

 

[MarkII]

Read all the posts here...

some thoughts..

And I begin by saying I don't disbelieve any of the statements made, but there are some discrepancies.

It was a 2 girl outcall. The problems developed...the driver was called, the assault continued outside with threats made. Police were called.

The local Police dept's do not discriminate in assault cases. They are too media sensitive to ignore an assault 911 call as it is public record.

It was stated that the girls were "lectured" about being escorts. Does that mean they responding officers simply indicated..it does come with the teritory?

If a local Police force does not respond to an assaul based on prior or knowledge gained at the scene you go to the OPP to investigate the matter.
You also contact the Ontario Atty. General office.

It does not matter why you were there. An assault and threats were uttered. That is a seperate investigation aside from what you were there for.

The Police will not ignore a death threat. And a 911 call for urgent response will not be ignored not matter what the reason.

There are some gaps in the info here and some assumptions being made.

We know LE has a duty to enforce the bylaws and laws concerning MP's and SP's, but they will not make a judgement call on a 911 distress call without investigating. It would be a majot lawsuit. If a Police officer talks about "the job" and waht to expect...they might be trying to educate, not degrade. It can be taken the wrong way in the heat of the moment.

Thats what does not add up.

I have no doubt Feminista is telling her side of the story..and she seems to be a quite reputable poster. We've shared comical barbs on more than a few occasions.

But there are some elements missing here to complete the picture.

It just does not add up...I cannot believe a Police force would say..oh it's hookers...and not come to a distress call invloving assault. There are some elements missing from what actually happened.

I'm not slamming anyone..or disbelieving...I think there has been some editing for content purposes.

M2

 

[feminista]

hello officer mark.(jk)

There aren't discrepancies -except perhaps in your reading of my post.

If every cop is already on a call they cannot respond immediately.

The assault had ALREADY occured it was not in progress. They were called right after but the girls were out. If all the cops are all busy -they are all busy. They cannot be sued when none are available becuz they are responding to other emergencies. I am not implying they were making that up.

It was hours until the police called back and said that those involved (who were all now at separate locations) could come into the station becuz there was finally someone available to do the reports.

The OPP tends not to trample on Barrie City cop's toes. It is my understanding that Barrie city is not OPP jurisdiction in a criminal matter. They operate outside the city limits in that capacity. And at this point there was only statements to be made anyway.

No death threats were made. There was a threat of further violence.

And no cop said "oh it's hookers".

How do you get that out of "They said they would deal with it asap but that it was vewry busy and there were no available cops and that they would call when one became available for them to give statements."??????

your comment that cops might try to educate (they know more about escorting than we do???) but that they don't degrade is total CRAP and only an assumption on your part.

The cop lectured on being in a "sleazy business" and echoed your -what did you expect attitude. He also shared his view of how irresponsible it was for one of the girls who is a parent to risk her life when she has a kid, he hoped she learned her lesson and would quit this selfish line of work. his judgement of her may have played a role in her not wanting to charge the guys.

And mark it doesn't come with the territory anymore than the attack of real estate agent alone at an open house or a store clerk being robbed or a cop dying in a car chase. Would anyone lecture them????

How selfish of a cop with kids to risk his life.
Being a cop can be a pretty sleazy job.
and cops are definately over-represented in our client base.

goodnight officer mark.(nk)

 

[Alexis696969]

its a very sad issue of judgement about escorts
Even though they licsense it and say its legal for outcalls
there always seems to be hypocracy approving it with LE
Any escorts reading this please listen .........

If you ever have some dumbass acting like a pig and you need the le
never ever say initially its for an escort ...........say anything if your life is threatened only to get them there ...........the questioning comes later ......but at least youll be safe ...(they need to realize your life is worth a lot !)


One more thing on this issue when bad clients do this to escorts
Its not an escort issue its a WOMAN issue .That kind of profile will abuse any woman .Your mother ,Sister ,daughter , SO, are always at risk just being out in public with crazy ass sexual predators that are lurking around ,its not about the sex for them its about the POWER Minipulation and most of all CONTROL

Thanks feminista for posting it and its good to know that we are sharing this info publicly

So maybe the Le will use the board to go after the real threatening people to society instead of girls just trying to survive in this jungle !

 

[feminista]

do you think that is more effective than going to the police directly and making a report to which they must respond?

do they deal with crimes in other jursidictions?

i guess that is the best option for those who are unwilling to go to police at all.

thnx for the info.