Being SPs First of Day

[unbiasedguy]

Will service generally be better as they are more fresh and havent seen x guys yet?

Also, is it appropriate to ask them for an alternate # to cut out their pimp in attempt to reduce the $? The only reason I ask this is because when I was in china last summer, I was only trying to get a massage after a long day on the basketball courts, turns out it was a massage + FS for 1000 rmb (about $150) LOL. I was inadvertently introduced to "hobbying" from that point. She then gave me her number and said call this next time for a lower price.

 

[pipelayer]

And lot of times you may be told "its been slow today, you are the first"..... Ya right.

That's a great price for fs and massage.

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

I think most girls who are in the higher price category only see 2-3 clients a day & are for sure not tired out. On the other hand the lower price girls often see 5+ guys per day ..... and YAH .... I would be worried if I was the 5th + guy!!! :Eek:

 

[**Sophie**]

The 5th guy is gonna have to strap a 2x4 to his back to keep him from falling in Bahaha...okay, just joking

 

[unbiasedguy]

What about agency girls? Arent they simply told "youre seeing __" or will the handlers control the volume?

1000 rmb was nothing to me, but in china, the average university graduate makes like 3000RMB. The first thing she said to me was something like: "wow I wasnt expecting someone like you" (im young)

 

[pipelayer]

the 5th guy is gonna have to strap a 2x4 to his back to keep him from falling in bahaha...okay, just joking

lol!!

 

[Hiding]

Will service generally be better as they are more fresh and havent seen x guys yet?

Also, is it appropriate to ask them for an alternate # to cut out their pimp in attempt to reduce the $?

This begs the immediate question of "why are you knowingly seeing an SP in a exploitative situation"?

Earlier in the day might be better for some women, yes, but she might also not be booked back-to-back or she might cap the number of gentlemen she chooses to see each day; it's pretty variable in that regard.

 

[unbiasedguy]

This begs the immediate question of "why are you knowingly seeing an SP in a exploitative situation"?

Im not exactly sure what you mean by this. The second time with the agency (when I was in china), they reduced my rate to $800. The girl said if I call her personal phone she could do $700. Heck, I even went on a "date" with her because I needed clothes and she knew where to get them.

 

[Rono]

I was going to say that 1000RMB is quite a lot. Average price I paid was 700.
However, this is not China, SP's won't go shopping with you unless you pay full rate. If you become a regular there may be an opportunity to cut some kind of deal but it puts the girl in a tough position if the agency finds out (I would imagine).

 

[Hiding]

Im not exactly sure what you mean by this. The second time with the agency (when I was in china), they reduced my rate to $800. The girl said if I call her personal phone she could do $700. Heck, I even went on a "date" with her because I needed clothes and she knew where to get them.

To have a pimp is almost universally to be exploited. There are much better options here that don't involve supporting that kind of behaviour

 

[unbiasedguy]

This begs the immediate question of "why are you knowingly seeing an SP in a exploitative situation"?

Earlier in the day might be better for some women, yes, but she might also not be booked back-to-back or she might cap the number of gentlemen she chooses to see each day; it's pretty variable in that regard.

To have a pimp is almost universally to be exploited. There are much better options here that don't involve supporting that kind of behaviour

arent all the agency girls being pimped out? I doubt guys like steve does it as charity.

 

[Hiding]

arent all the agency girls being pimped out? I doubt guys like steve does it as charity.

No, we're not. "Pimped out" implies someone who isn't able to choose, who is pressured or forced into working and for whom there will be negative consequences if she decides against the pimp's desires.

Agency owners provide a service (incalls, answering phone, promotion, security) in exchange for a fee. Women at (non-exploitative) agencies operate much more as "free agents". I think you're using "pimp" to refer to "agency owners" but they're not the same thing. "Pimp" and "pimped out" have really negative connotations.

For example, I work with Select. They are an escorting agency. The owner is not my "pimp": I can choose to leave at any point in time with no negative ramifications, I am not forced to do anything and the same is true for everyone else who works with them. It sounds like a matter of semantics but it's a really important point.

 

[red]

Heck, I even went on a "date" with her because I needed clothes and she knew where to get them.

could you change your name to sir galahad. it would be easier to keep track of the heros

 

[unbiasedguy]

No, we're not. "Pimped out" implies someone who isn't able to choose, who is pressured or forced into working and for whom there will be negative consequences if she decides against the pimp's desires.

Agency owners provide a service (incalls, answering phone, promotion, security) in exchange for a fee. Women at (non-exploitative) agencies operate much more as "free agents". I think you're using "pimp" to refer to "agency owners" but they're not the same thing. "Pimp" and "pimped out" have really negative connotations.

For example, I work with Select. They are an escorting agency. The owner is not my "pimp": I can choose to leave at any point in time with no negative ramifications, I am not forced to do anything and the same is true for everyone else who works with them. It sounds like a matter of semantics but it's a really important point.

thanks for the clarification. How was the girl in my situation being exploited in your opinion?

 

[bucky88]

You know what's even better than being first of the day? Being first AND last....like the gentleman I spent my afternoon with. One client a day is always nice.

I envy that guy :wink:

 

[bucky88]

I'm a little jealous of the lady in your siggy. Just sayin'

Her facial reaction is priceless. Plus, as you probably know, I love mish. Just sayin' :wink:

 

[Azprint]

You know what's even better than being first of the day? Being first AND last....like the gentleman I spent my afternoon with. One client a day is always nice.

True. Doesn't pay your bills though.

 

[**Sophie**]

True. Doesn't pay your bills though.

Oh I don't know about that. I'm sure he gave her enough dough ray me, if she agreed to spend the afternoon with him.

 

[AlannaJohnson]

Thanks for bringing up this topic unbiasedguy.

I occasionally get requests from gents for them to be my 'first' of the day. While myself and other ladies may try to accommodate this request, I know I don't only speak for myself when I say us ladies generally roll our eyes at this request.

Whatever the gent's motivation is, what we hear is 'I'm afraid you're not clean enough somehow if you've been with other guys that day.' As professional companions, it's our job to always shower and thoroughly freshen up in between appointments.

Let's not even getting into how I'm personally more of a late-night person, and if you happen to be my first appointment of the day, you'll probably have to 'work' a little harder to get me going!

As for trying to negotiate a better deal with the girl by 'cutting out the pimp'... Oh my, let me first tell you that the character of the 'pimp' is to a large degree a myth, at least here in Canada, and especially in Toronto. Here we have legitimate agencies where the girls/providers choose to work. I know that most agencies do not take well to their girls trying to cut them out by seeing agency clients privately. If the agency owner finds out that a girl is seeing agency clients privately, she will likely easily find herself removed from the roster.
So my suggestion is, if you are looking for 'better deals' that what agencies offer, find yourself an independent provider whose rates are in a range you're comfortable with. If you do see agency girls, let them bring up the idea of seeing you privately if anything. If they don't, then chances are they are loyal to the agency, and not interested in seeing clients independently.

Good luck and happy hobbying!

 

[luv4lust]

I think most girls who are in the higher price category only see 2-3 clients a day & are for sure not tired out. On the other hand the lower price girls often see 5+ guys per day ..... and YAH .... I would be worried if I was the 5th + guy!!! :Eek:

for years i've only seen one client a day, i guess i need to raise my rates to fit it to your theory