I looked at my Internet Bill today, I Noticed it was like 70 bucks, it is usually under 40 bucks as I have a contract. I know when I renewed my contract last month, that it had changed from unlimited to a total of 60GB's/mo. Anyway, my bill is like 70 bucks. I looked an it said, I had 25.63 of downloads and 63.51 of uploads. I don't understand why I have so much uploads. When I down load off Torrents I always download faster than I upload and I close the unit once my down load is finished. Could something else be happening. How can I control this? I don't mind sharing but this is costing a lot. Any advice would be apprecaited. Thanks.
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Are you absolutely sure about taking your torrents off as soon as they are done and that it is always uploading slower than you are downloading? With my torrent use, it is usually quite a bit faster going upstream than down. If you are using uTorrents, you can pull up "show statistics" under the help option in the menu and see how much you've uploaded and downloaded since the software was started. I haven't dug around to find it, but I think you can reset the statistics under options and monitor the torrent usage from this point on. I presume similar functions exist with other torrent clients.
In theory it is possible that someone has installed something nasty on your computer via hacking or malware, and is using your computer as a distribution point for files, but this isn't very likely, IMHO. I'd take a good look at your firewall to make sure it is totally locked down except from the applications you've enabled to burrow through the firewall. I'd also look at your firewall to see what logging options you might have and monitor what traffic is outgoing, and from what software.
My experience with the Bell unlimited/non-unlimited account is - at least for me - they cost about the same. I just think of my account as being $75/month because I hit my max usage billing caps each and every month, without fail, to the tune of about 200gb a month.
In theory it is possible that someone has installed something nasty on your computer via hacking or malware, and is using your computer as a distribution point for files, but this isn't very likely, IMHO. I'd take a good look at your firewall to make sure it is totally locked down except from the applications you've enabled to burrow through the firewall. I'd also look at your firewall to see what logging options you might have and monitor what traffic is outgoing, and from what software.
My experience with the Bell unlimited/non-unlimited account is - at least for me - they cost about the same. I just think of my account as being $75/month because I hit my max usage billing caps each and every month, without fail, to the tune of about 200gb a month.
I disagree. Rogers will suspend your account without notice if your usage "adversely affects your local network segment", and won't tell you what usage levels will constitute an overuse suspension.Razon said:
When I pointed out that they were saying that if I did anything other than email and web browsing, I was in danger of being suspended without notice, I was told that if I was doing more than that then I probably wasn't the kind of customer they wanted. I agreed and canceled my account on the spot, over their sudden protests.
For that reason I wouldn't touch Rogers with rubber gloves on.
Crixus said:
Thanks Crixus, I still haven't figured it out. But I did check my stats and it said, 197 download and 191 upload. However while I was watching this, it was uploading at a rate of something like,"50 kBs including LT seeding", whatever that is. I wasn't in the process of downloading anything at the time and all my files were in stop mode. I have left my bit comet open for probably a few weeks and this thing was uploading something ( I don't know what but it sure added up) all that time. I will take cali's advice and turn it off when I am not using it. I didn't think it could upload like that. I sure wish I knew about this before and what it uploading.
Go find another service provider other than the big companies...
I feel like I'm on a personal vandetta with Bell... they and Rogers keep raising their prices, nickel and diming every little thing, and they reduce their services. They are overpriced.
I'm gonna cancel Sympatico when my contract is up in September and go with a local company here in Ottawa. What does it matter anyways? It's still Bell Nexxia's infrastructure. But I will feel better not giving my money to Bell Sympatico. Google the National Capital Freenet. They're a non profit organization that has been around as long as the internet has been a regular household item. They provide 5mbs download for $30 bucks a month.
Then I'm getting rid of my ExpressVu service. There are other ways to catch your favorite tv shows.
And even tho I have a good cell rate plan with Bell, if I can unload my two year contract for my cell on someone, I'll go with Telus, just because they are not Rogers or Bell.
Sorry if this is off topic and sounds like the same thing you've heard countless times from other people before... but people gotta know that there are always other choices... the big companies just spend more money on advertising and pass along the cost to the consumer.
I feel like I'm on a personal vandetta with Bell... they and Rogers keep raising their prices, nickel and diming every little thing, and they reduce their services. They are overpriced.
I'm gonna cancel Sympatico when my contract is up in September and go with a local company here in Ottawa. What does it matter anyways? It's still Bell Nexxia's infrastructure. But I will feel better not giving my money to Bell Sympatico. Google the National Capital Freenet. They're a non profit organization that has been around as long as the internet has been a regular household item. They provide 5mbs download for $30 bucks a month.
Then I'm getting rid of my ExpressVu service. There are other ways to catch your favorite tv shows.
And even tho I have a good cell rate plan with Bell, if I can unload my two year contract for my cell on someone, I'll go with Telus, just because they are not Rogers or Bell.
Sorry if this is off topic and sounds like the same thing you've heard countless times from other people before... but people gotta know that there are always other choices... the big companies just spend more money on advertising and pass along the cost to the consumer.
I thought it has been a while that these two major ISP's have put out something in their networks to filter out all the Torrent and P2P traffics.Crixus said:
Have I missed something, because everytime I tried to run these Torrent & P2P apps, I hit a solid wall going nowhere?
Rogers has also added quotas. If you're ALWAYS over it may be cheaper to get a faster service with a higher quota.Razon said:
They will throttle you down, especially in peak hours, I have never been blocked. But during nights and weekends I can download 3 or more movies at once with speeds ranging from 150 to 400 kBs for each movie, download 3 movies in 30 to 60 minutes.somedude said:
Agreed. They throttle but they don't block.hungry said:
And they can't really ever out and out block torrents, because torrents are not only used for copyright violations (although I'm sure 99% of torrent traffic is copyrighted material). Believe it or not, there are some totally legitimate torrents out there: software distributions and material which is copyright free, or the copyright holder has released in for public distribution.
If you torrents are stopping entirely there is another problem somewhere.
It might be that you simply are downloading material for which not many people are sharing, which is a problem I often have. If there are only 5 peers sharing, and all of them are off in parts of the internet to which your connection speed sucks, then it is going to take a long time. I've had files take up to 10-days because they were really obscure and the only peer I've been able to connect to I could only get a 0.1Kb/s connection
Guys, there is something call packet shapeing. No matter what all the big ISP's say that they don't throttle, they are lying to you. They can actually do whatever they want. Do a search on packet shapeing and read about it. I can say at leat 99.6% of them do this. It's their way of controlling their bandwidth usages without getting into legal issues.
I've noticed a decrease in bandwidth using torrents (bell). It's a shame to be connected to 100 peers and only be getting 20/kBs. This doesn't always seem to be the case but happens enough times to to be annoying.
Crixus, you should also check your firewall/router setup as they control and may be blocking the ports that torrents client uses.
Crixus, you should also check your firewall/router setup as they control and may be blocking the ports that torrents client uses.
If you think there aren't legal issues around packet shaping, you haven't been following the CRTC/Bell debate, the Net Neutrality initiative (although that is more politics than law), or the recent pasting Comcast took from the FCC over throttling and packet shaping in the US.svtcobra said:
BTW, I'm not the one having torrent problems. My torrents are just fine (although I'm running under Bell, so I suspect my torrents are periodically throttled), unless I'm downloading from a single seeded torrent with the only peer I can connect to in Uzbekistan, which just makes sense for it to be slow ...
Robbers is just as bad, it not worse.Razon said:
A buddy got a notice because they claimed he was downloading too much and they even specified the name of a game - which he didn't - he doesn't game much, only the Tetris which is free online and a game he bought years ago.
