Agreed - no big exciting moves yet. But, the bullpen should be stronger than last year but not yet great enough to instill confidence if, or when, the Jays get to the post-season.No big, exciting moves yet.
AA trying to piece together a bullpen gets a 41 year old leftie specialist Darren Oliver (evidently ranked as top FA available for this role) and today reacquire Jason Frasor.
no clue what Anthopolous is doing. First he deals Frasor, now he gets Frasor back. He says Hill and Johnny Mac will be back. They aint coming back. We hear, w,re in the running for a top Japanese pitcher only to find Texas scoops him up under our noses. We sign a 40 year old reliever when clearly there are younger ones available. There is no hope in hell Fielder or any serious slugger to back up Bautista will be here next year so get use to another year of mediocrity Jays fans,,,,
I read that Frasor was the set up man for Santos in Chicago and may do some of the same here.Agreed - no big exciting moves yet. But, the bullpen should be stronger than last year but not yet great enough to instill confidence if, or when, the Jays get to the post-season.
Here's the bullpen with last year's stats
Closer: Santos 63.1 IP; 30 Saves; 1.105 WHIP; 92/29 K/BB ratio; 13.1K/9; 4.1 BB/9; 0.9 HR/9 (1 good year doesn't make a closer so we'll have to see what he does in 2012)
Setup Man: Janssen 55.2IP; 1.096 WHIP; 53/14 K/BB ratio; 8.6K/9; 2.3BB/9; 0.3 HR/9 (pretty dependable guy all around)
LH Specialist: Oliver 51IP; 1.1137 WHIP; 44/11 K/BB; 7.8K/9; 1.9BB/9; 0.5 HR/9 (41 years old, nuf said)
Middle Reliever: Frasor 60IP; 1.400WHIP; 57/26 K/BB; 8.6K/9; 3.9BB/9; 1.1 HR/9 (K's are fine but he's got to cut down on the hits and BB's)
Middle Reliever: Carreno (24yrs old) 15.2 IP; 0.957 WHIP; 14/4 K/BB; 8.0K/9; 2.3BB/9; 0.6 HR/9 (young, controllable with upside potential in the pen)
Long Relief: Villanueva 107.0 IP; 1.262 WHIP; 68/32 K/BB; 5.7K/9; 2.7 BB/9; 0.9 HR/9 (was a good addition last year with ability to be a 6th starter)
Long Relief: Litsch 75 IP; 1.293 WHIP; 66/28 K/BB; 7.9K/9; 3.4BB/9; 1.2HR/9 (may have found his calling as a long-man as he was frustrating as a starter)
Fransciso, Rauch and Camp all had worse WHIP's than all but Fraser. As a closer and setup man Fransciso's and Rauch's stats are worse than Santos and Janssen.
I can live with Oliver and Frasor for now but would like to see them upgraded next year via the trade route of FA signings.
It's possible that Frasor is the setup man but Janssen is a little better option in that role as he gives up less walks and hits than Frasor (Janssen's 0.224 opposing batting average versus Frasor's 0.257). Frasor also gave up 10 stolen bases and 7 HR's last year to Janssen's 2 and 2. Makes Frasor a little more dangerous on the mound in the critical setup role. Where it makes sense is that Janssen can go for more than 1 inning at a time if needed. Frasor is good for 1 inning but you don't want him out there for a 2nd.I read that Frasor was the set up man for Santos in Chicago and may do some of the same here.
As well, Luis Perez is in the bullpen mix.
I can see Casey and Frasor ham and egging it if Farrell can use them correctly. Both experienced and fairly reliable.It's good that they are stocking up on bullpen arms...like last year, people were not fulfilling the roles that was initially defined for them; and a lot of shuffling ...and while last year's bullpen was definitely a problem, at least they had enough interchangeable parts that they were able to move people around. For now, the only role that seems set is Santos as the closer, Frasor may start off as the setup man, but if he falters, at least Janssen can take over...
Morrow signedJays sign 44yr old SS Omar Vizquel to a one year, non-guaranteed, contract.
Also close to signing Morrow to a three year contract.
I agree. I hope they have at least 'kicked the tires' on Fielder.Jays need a bat(s)!
I'm all for Fielder too. He is young and if he will takes a 5 yr deal or a 5 yr with options they should be giving it serious considerations.I agree. I hope they have at least 'kicked the tires' on Fielder.
I also hope that this is AA on a dictated budget and not him refusing to even look at Fielder on his own.
Probably going to happen I read it from AP as close to signing......9 year deal.Fielder just signed ...
with Detroit.
Don't forget Jessie Litsch as a long-reliever if they want 13 pitchers instead of 12. If they don't find another starting pitcher via trade they may want another long-man in the pen. If so, Luis Perez has options and may be the odd man out if they decide to only go with 12 pitchers since they still have 5-6 outfielders to find homes for. Being a lefty though, they may want to keep him around.Nice I like our bullpen more now.
CL Sergio Santos
SU Francisco Cordero
SU Casey Janssen
MR Darren Oliver
MR Jason Frasor
All of these pitchers above had a good year last year overall.
MR Luis Perez
LR Carlos Villanueva
AA still has to fix our starting rotation.
