Bromell's 'The Beat' on prostitution this week

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http://www.640toronto.com/station/the_beat.cfm
This Week: Shining a Red Light on Toronto
Are our police resources being "wasted" on the battle against the oldest profession, or is there enough crime that surrounds prostitution in our city that the attention is warranted? The Beat speaks to sex workers, residents, councillors, cops and experts on the controversial issues that spark debate around prostitution. What is the difference between legalization and decriminalization? Why not set up a red light district? And what is the tie between immigration and sex workers in our city? We'll find out, on The Beat.
Did anyone hear this today? Wild guess here - it was something like, "all prostitution is run by organized crime, and the poor cops do all they can to fight against it, but the stupid courts make it tough for them".

I've heard about 10 minutes of this guy in the last few months, and he's as predictable as he is dull. For those who don't know, he's the former head of the Toronto Police Union. I don't know how he's lasted so long on radio. The whole thing is nothing but him explaining how the rest of the world, including the politicians and media, hate cops, who are of course all brave heroes valiantly standing up against them while continuing to fight crime, and anyone who makes any suggestion about improving policing in Toronto has an anti-police axe to grind and has no idea what they're talking about.
 

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I'm not a big Bromel fan but IMO he does have a point if he said:

Anyone who makes any suggestion about improving policing in Toronto has an anti-police axe to grind and has no idea what they're talking about.

I would just change the word Anyone to Most.
 

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Bromell... He represents everything that is wrong with the Toronto Metropolitan Police.
Just looking at him (I know you can't judge a book by its cover) his face just screams 'Fat Corrupt Cop!!"
His actions as head of the Police Union just made the Metro Police look like the Old Boy Network; refusing to answer to anyone and not being held accountable for anything.
Even threatening his supposed "brother" officers if they spoke against the party line... :mad:

Too bad Fantino has too leave .... He seemed to be a man of integrity!!
Hopefully the man who becomes Chief of Police will be more like Fantino and less like that fat bastart Bromell.
 

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TheNiteHwk said:
I'm not a big Bromel fan but IMO he does have a point if he said:

Anyone who makes any suggestion about improving policing in Toronto has an anti-police axe to grind and has no idea what they're talking about.

I would just change the word Anyone to Most.
If everyone had to know what they're talking about before speaking, it'd be a Dead Silent World wouldn't it? And Craig might be the first to hafta shut up.

It's my police service—I have tax bill to prove it—and I'll suggest improvements if I want. You [pl.] can judge whether they're decent ideas or not. I believe that's called free speech in a democracy. If my (or anyone else's) "anti-police axe" is that scary to Bromell and his sort, then we definitely need better cops.
 

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Manji said:
Bromell... He represents everything that is wrong with the Toronto Metropolitan Police.
Just looking at him (I know you can't judge a book by its cover) his face just screams 'Fat Corrupt Cop!!"
LOL....doesnt he just look like a pig???????

The real man with integrity was McCormack Sr. (not his sons)
He's devestated what happened to his sons but he wasnt like them, he was a standup guy.
We need another one like him
 

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oldjones said:
If everyone had to know what they're talking about before speaking, it'd be a Dead Silent World wouldn't it? And Craig might be the first to hafta shut up.

It's my police service—I have tax bill to prove it—and I'll suggest improvements if I want. You [pl.] can judge whether they're decent ideas or not. I believe that's called free speech in a democracy. If my (or anyone else's) "anti-police axe" is that scary to Bromell and his sort, then we definitely need better cops.

I don't like Bromel or anything he stands for. I never tried to imply that just because IMO people who have suggestions etc for improvements don't know (IMO) what they are talking about that they do not have a right to free speech. If they want to raddle off there stupid ideas and make fools of themselves... let them go right ahead. :rolleyes:
 

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He was talking to Valerie Scott and another woman from spoc.ca on the show today. Ms Scott was describing decriminalized prostitution (as opposed to legalization) in Sydney Australia (or I suppose more accurately the state of New South Wales, apparently a "province" in Bromell's mind).

She mentioned that assaults on sex workers there occur less frequently and when they do occur, the police take it more seriously than here, where sex workers are afraid to go to the police whom they feel they can't trust.

As predictable as the sunrise, Bromell gets angry at the mere implication that a cop could ever do anything wrong, and spouts, "That's crap". They go to a commercial. You can almost hear Bromell's female co-host say to him during the break, "You know you just proved her point, moron."
 

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My problem with Bromell is that he brings so little to the discussion. I caught a little bit of the show today and he started making statements that child prostitution is running rampant in the MPs throughout the GTA. Typical. He loves to obscure the truth with whatever will get him (and the police) whatever they want. And the way he keeps saying the crime is out of control in the GTA; total bs intended to increase the police budget.

The only person worse than Bromell is that suck-ass sidekick of his whose mother must have been a jellyfish b/c he lacks any semblance of a spine. All he does is kiss Bromell's ass. I wouldn't be surprised if he's under the table giving Bromell BJs when he's not spewing his bs.
 

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HaywoodJabloemy said:
As predictable as the sunrise, Bromell gets angry at the mere implication that a cop could ever do anything wrong, and spouts, "That's crap". They go to a commercial. You can almost hear Bromell's female co-host say to him during the break, "You know you just proved her point, moron."
Lol, that would about sum it up. And he did prove our point.
 

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I personally like craig and I think that sex industry should be regulated and only lisensed spas and lisenced escorts that will take care of underages at least
 

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Hulk said:
I personally like craig and I think that sex industry should be regulated and only lisensed spas and lisenced escorts that will take care of underages at least

I don't think that it will take care of underages. It may lessen some but not do away with it. Just like you can buy booze from a bootleger when the store is closed. There will always (sadly) be people who are willing to provide services that are not available at licesed places.
 

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Hulk said:
I personally like craig and I think that sex industry should be regulated and only lisensed spas and lisenced escorts that will take care of underages at least

How would you like or feel about a job that is regulated when it's your own body that they want to regulate. This stupid 'living on the avils' 'communicating' 'bawdy house' laws need to be abolished along with the cops that are tainted, don't give a shit and are taking a piece of the pie all at the same time.
Bromell needs to seriously look into retirement and should have a long time ago. It's people with his additude that should not be allowed to speak/educate the public about a topic he has no farking clue about.

But besides that, I'm doing good. :p






Annessa
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Bromell is a clown

This guy is just a barker who's job is to secure the financial and lobbying support form the grass roots of the "family values" and "law & order" crowd. He spews out all the tired old junk they want to hear, and makes sensational alegations to scare the rest of the public.

The LE types would do better to take the surveilence used to harass consenting adults and put it on computers to look for child predators. Maybe realize that the guys going into MPs and SCs are NOT the same guys who hang around schools & playgrounds.

If they spent their enegry more wisely, it would be harder for some unemployable middle aged twit to abduct a kid and lead them on a wild chase? Maybe you would get something more than a shrug of the shoulder when your car gets stolen? Maybe they wouldn't look foolish failling for years to get one guy who rapes women in the same park, or guys who break & enter in the same building 15 times?
 

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Hard Idle said:
This guy is just a barker who's job is to secure the financial and lobbying support form the grass roots of the "family values" and "law & order" crowd. He spews out all the tired old junk they want to hear, and makes sensational alegations to scare the rest of the public.

The LE types would do better to take the surveilence used to harass consenting adults and put it on computers to look for child predators. Maybe realize that the guys going into MPs and SCs are NOT the same guys who hang around schools & playgrounds.

If they spent their enegry more wisely, it would be harder for some unemployable middle aged twit to abduct a kid and lead them on a wild chase? Maybe you would get something more than a shrug of the shoulder when your car gets stolen? Maybe they wouldn't look foolish failling for years to get one guy who rapes women in the same park, or guys who break & enter in the same building 15 times?
you sir, have hit the nail on the head! the police should be out there after real criminals and helping real victims, instead of harrassing consenting adults making a business exchange.
 

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....as a youth, i remember a police exhibition in a mall and seeing a 12 pack of canadian hidden under a table cloth of one of their display tables. it was near closing time at the mall and was walking with my mom... one officer lifted the cloth, grabbed an open can and took a quick swig while on his knee and quickly put it back... i knudged my mom to look and she said "that's craig bromell".. i remember her saying, "typical!"
i can't remember how old i was, but i was old enough to know that what the cop was doing was wrong... i was more amazed at why would a cop do such a petty thing that could get him in trouble? i didn't understand or was too young to understand that he was untouchable... i thought he had to answer to the arm of the law like all of us. i didn't know he was above it.
 
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