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spankingman

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With the recent events in the Middle East going on or any other country should Canada be going over and evacuating people who CHOSE to LEAVE Canada for what ever reason?. Some for many years. IMO is if you choose to leave a country you shouldnt rely on that country to bail you out when things go south. You chose to move to an area of the world that has been unstable for years
 

shack

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Maybe it makes a difference if you are still a citizen or not and if so, if you're filing a tax return.
 
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escortsxxx

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With the recent events in the Middle East going on or any other country should Canada be going over and evacuating people who CHOSE to LEAVE Canada for what ever reason?. Some for many years. IMO is if you choose to leave a country you shouldnt rely on that country to bail you out when things go south. You chose to move to an area of the world that has been unstable for years
I know some parts of the world you informed your on your own. We should do thst with Mexico but If money is flowing ... Like china... Its hard to tun it down.
 

bazokajoe

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With the recent events in the Middle East going on or any other country should Canada be going over and evacuating people who CHOSE to LEAVE Canada for what ever reason?. Some for many years. IMO is if you choose to leave a country you shouldnt rely on that country to bail you out when things go south. You chose to move to an area of the world that has been unstable for years
Totally agree.
 

NotTheCatThatYouLike

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based on this logic, let's also take away free health care from people who decided to drink alcohol, smoke, or who don't exercise regularly. The government doesn't work this way.
Of course, if a person who left Canada for the Middle East has second citizenship of the country where they currently live, then it's another story.
 
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primetimebob

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No one should be able to have dual citizenship. That or those people should be given a maximum of 2 years to decide which citizenship they should take especially if you are not paying any taxes to the country. When we buy a coffee from Tim Horton, we pay tax to support this country. When they are in trouble, why should our government sent a plane to pick them up.
 
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NotADcotor

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If you go to another country, you should be on your own. Sure a polite request from the embassy but no heroic efforts and no trading hostages. The age of sending in the gun boats is long over.
Regardless of solo citizens or dual or quad or whatever.

If I go to Bangkok to bang some cock [it's not called bangcunt] and run afoul of some shady cops, well, I'm an adult, I should face up to making bad life decisions and going to a place with issues.

Granted if that actually did happen to me, I'd scream bloody murder to the embassy and hope they would save my ass, but if they didn't I'd understand why. I mean if they are going to be in the business of saving people who go to risky places, well I am entitled to my entitlements also.
 

shack

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I still say that no matter where they live or why, if they are citizens and are paying taxes they should be treated the same as people who live here (subject to laws and regulations).
 
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Joyrection

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I still say that no matter where they live or why, if they are citizens and are paying taxes they should be treated the same as people who live here (subject to laws and regulations).
If they were on vacation and a natural disaster struck that is one thing. Choosing to live in places that have been flagged for political instability, extreme crime/ corruption, terrorism or all the above by the Canadian government is quite another thing. The other thing is that unlike the US, Canadians who get in trouble in other countries are basically on their own unless they are very well connected to big business or the federal government.
 

shack

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If they were on vacation and a natural disaster struck that is one thing. Choosing to live in places that have been flagged for political instability, extreme crime/ corruption, terrorism or all the above by the Canadian government is quite another thing.
I disagree. If you are a citizen, pay your taxes and are law abiding then you should get treated like every other citizen.

You are saying that going to dangerous places is stupid and therefore the gov't shouldn't bail you out. People do stupid things (Darwin award stuff) all the time. What difference does it make if a tax paying citizen does something stupid in Canada or out. No medical treatment because you should have known better?

I don't get it.
 
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Joyrection

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Yes correct, my suggestion is they have to buy insurance for high risk travel. Same should apply for people who engage in high risk sports such as heliskiiing, mountain climbing, back country hiking, backcountry snowmobiling, deep sea diving. I buy travel insurance every year because I know that OHIP and my private insurance is not going to cover me if something bad happens. My choice to travel so it should be up to me to not be a burden on my fellow citizens.
 
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K Douglas

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I know of several that have left Canada since 2019.The main reasons being 1) crap healthcare and 2) high taxes. I have another client contemplating moving to the Cayman Islands for work.
 
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I still say that no matter where they live or why, if they are citizens and are paying taxes they should be treated the same as people who live here (subject to laws and regulations).
Who says that they're paying Canadian taxes after years of overseas residence in a different country? If they're smart and planned ahead enough to secure the Willie Wonka Golden passport, you can be sure that they've structured their affairs to pay local country resident taxes, not Canadian taxes.
 

shack

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Who says that they're paying Canadian taxes after years of overseas residence in a different country? If they're smart and planned ahead enough to secure the Willie Wonka Golden passport, you can be sure that they've structured their affairs to pay local country resident taxes, not Canadian taxes.
As long as they're fulfilling their tax obligations (which may be zero).

Semantics.
 

wiskey bravo

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No one should be able to have dual citizenship. That or those people should be given a maximum of 2 years to decide which citizenship they should take especially if you are not paying any taxes to the country. When we buy a coffee from Tim Horton, we pay tax to support this country. When they are in trouble, why should our government sent a plane to pick them up.
Citizenship has nothing to do with taxes. Residency determines that. I can travel both on my Canadian and US passport. Revenue Canada does not care. They care about what I claim as my primary resident. I can claim I live in Miami and not pay tax in Canada, however, my ties to Canada are cut off which means surrounding many things including my heath card. If i keep my ties to Canada then I will pay taxes to both Canada and USA. If ones salary is taxed total at 40 percent, and Florida only taxes at 20 percent, then Florida gets 20 percent since I live there and Canada will tax at 20 percent to equate to 40 percent total. There's many Canadians that live in the US that claim residency in the US that have property in Canada still. Don't worry they continue to pay their share to revenue Canada. Even if they surrendered their heath card, drivers licence, bank accounts bla bla bla and they choose to rent their home, they will pay tax on the income they make in Canada on the rent money they are making in Canada.
 

Ponderling

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I worked for a 100% Canadian owned Australian subsidiary company on a project in Brisbane for 3.5 years.

Personally paid Australian taxes, then took the credits from doing that when filing personal Cdn taxes.

Corp profits from the Oz company paid to Cdn parent, who then paid Cdn taxes, again with credits for the Oz taxes already filed.

I was one of three Canadians amongst about 15 Australians and New Zealanders.

They used to rib me about us three hoovering all company profits out of their country.
 

primetimebob

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Citizenship has nothing to do with taxes. Residency determines that. I can travel both on my Canadian and US passport. Revenue Canada does not care. They care about what I claim as my primary resident. I can claim I live in Miami and not pay tax in Canada, however, my ties to Canada are cut off which means surrounding many things including my heath card. If i keep my ties to Canada then I will pay taxes to both Canada and USA. If ones salary is taxed total at 40 percent, and Florida only taxes at 20 percent, then Florida gets 20 percent since I live there and Canada will tax at 20 percent to equate to 40 percent total. There's many Canadians that live in the US that claim residency in the US that have property in Canada still. Don't worry they continue to pay their share to revenue Canada. Even if they surrendered their heath card, drivers licence, bank accounts bla bla bla and they choose to rent their home, they will pay tax on the income they make in Canada on the rent money they are making in Canada.
What about daily expenses? Everything we buy, we have to pay 13% tax. Our government needs these 13% tax to operate. Sending a plane over to pick them up, cost money.
 
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