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I just bought a couple Music CD's (yep, Full retail), but I like to also Burn them on My Laptop (then, When I travel, I have the Songs follow me everywhere...without the inconvenience of Carrying the actual CD's)

Anyhow, to My Surprise, there is no Way I can burn those CD's....I then noticed a little Sticker on the box Saying copy control CD .....
I am not a specialist in Copying, but how can I possibly get around that?
I now have to go on P2P and download the Album.

Next Time I'll know Better, I Won't buy the CD no more....I'll Copy it from the Net !!!!
 

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The_Rippers guide to ripping copy-protected CD's:
1.Disable Auto Insert Notification(autorun) in Windows Device Manager.
2.Use a Lite-On or Plextor drive to rip because they can bypass most copy-protection.
3.In CDex->Settings->CD Drive->Ripping Method select "Paranoia,Full".
4.If CDex doesn't work try EAC,Nero CD DAE or IsoBuster(all free).CloneCD is an excellent payware program that can bypass most copy-protection.

http://www.exactaudiocopy.de
http://www.smart-projects.net/
http://www.slysoft.com/en/download.html
http://www.cdspeed2000.com
 

joebear

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joebear

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http://www.members.shaw.ca/cafdir/fakecds.htm


Copy protected/controlled discs aren't CD's!

"Those are silver discs with music data that resemble CDs, but aren't," - Philips representative Klaus Petri

How can you add corrupted data to a CD without having any impact beyond stopping copying?

The answer.... YOU CAN'T!!!

Philips (who along with Sony created the Compact Disc technology) has stated they have concerns about the impact this protection/control process might have on the disc. These include:

The longevity of these discs (of course it will take a while to see if this arises).
The playability of these discs on an any CD player (click here for more on this).
The playability of these discs if scratched/damaged. CD players are designed to be flexible, which is why you might be surprised sometimes that a damaged CD still plays. However, can the player put up with BOTH a scratch AND the corrupted files?

The result of this is that Philips will not allow these discs to be called CD's because they do not satisfy the quality guidelines that are specified to be given that name. If you examine the jewel case and inserts for a protected/controlled disc you will not find the familiar CD logo anywhere. Instead you will see the copy control logo (although you may have to look pretty hard sometimes). Of course, music companies did not volunteer for this change in logos. Thankfully, Philips and consumer agencies imposed these changes to try and protect consumers. The labelling is still an issue though (click here for more on this).

To summarize: these corrupted discs are NOT Compact Discs!
 

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http://www.techtv.com/audiofile/print/0,23102,3368248,00.html

just a sample click on the link

CD Copy Protection Debates

Get powerful quotes from music's notables Thursday, March 21 at 8:30 p.m. Eastern.
Also airs Saturday 3/23 at 10:30 a.m., 6 p.m., 11 p.m.; Sunday 3/24 at 3:30 a.m., 2:30 p.m., 8:30 p.m., Monday 3/25 at 2:30 a.m., and Thursday 3/28 at 11 a.m., 1:30 p.m., 6 p.m.

By AudioFile staff

"AudioFile" staffers recently attended the Future of Music Coalition Policy Summit 2002. Attendees came from every walk of life, but shared the same level of passion about music.

We were surprised at their reactions to new copy protection technologies for CDs. We're sure you will be, too.


Mark Cuban, founder of Broadcast.com, owner of the Dallas Mavericks:

"You gotta be a dumbass to [use copy protection]. Rule number one with any sort of business I've ever been associated with is, you don't abuse your customers. You try to make life easier for them. Copy protection doesn't do that."


Sen. Kevin Murray, California state senator, chair of Senate Select Committee on the Entertainment Industry:

"I really think you've got to come up with what is fair use -- come up with a definition. What is fair use? Is it two copies? Is it copies for your immediate family, copies for your friends? Is it something you can give someone as a gift? This is what we need to figure out. I think logical people can sit down and figure out, 'OK, [this is] what is fair.'"


Fred Von Lohmann, senior intellectual property attorney, Electronic Frontier Foundation:

"I think at a minimum record labels, like any company that sells a product to the public, has an ethical duty, a moral duty -- even if not a legal one -- to honestly tell you what it is you're buying. For the last 20-odd years consumers have understood CDs to function a certain way. In the last few years they've realized that one of the ways that you can make a copy of your CD is to make a copy in your MP3 player. Now suddenly CDs are changing -- and the companies that are selling us the CDs appear to be unwilling to tell us which CDs that they are changing."


Edward Felton, professor of computer science, Princeton University:

"The consumers have to be able to get a variety of music and to be able to play it and listen to it and experience it the way they want. And there's a risk that copy protection and other technology like this will make it more difficult for consumers to experience the music they legitimately bought in the way they want to experience it. And anytime that you make the consumer's experience worse, you have to worry. Not only about whether it's fair, but whether it's a good idea for the industry doing it in the first place."
 

xarir

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Back in the Old Days (mid to late 1980s) computer software came on floppy disks (5.25" then later on 3.5"). These programs were copy protected which also prevented people who had legitimately bought programs from making backup copies in case coffee or whatever was spilled on the floppy.

Eventually the shareware world was rife with cracks and hacks and programs that could copy through copy-protected floppies.

Eventually software manufacturers recognized the futility of punishing their legitimate customers and removed all copy protection from their programs.

I wonder how long CD copy protection will last?
 
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