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WyattEarp

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@richaceg @Phil C. McNasty @WyattEarp , what do you 3 gentlemen think of Trump's Thanksgiving best wishes for the country? I will not judge you, I swear I will not. 😷



" A very Happy Thanksgiving salutation to all of our Great American Citizens and Patriots who have been so nice in allowing our Country to be divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged, and laughed at, along with certain other foolish countries throughout the World, for being “Politically Correct,” and just plain STUPID, when it comes to Immigration. The official United States Foreign population stands at 53 million people (Census), most of which are on welfare, from failed nations, or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs, or drug cartels. They and their children are supported through massive payments from Patriotic American Citizens who, because of their beautiful hearts, do not want to openly complain or cause trouble in any way, shape, or form. They put up with what has happened to our Country, but it’s eating them alive to do so! A migrant earning $30,000 with a green card will get roughly $50,000 in yearly benefits for their family. The real migrant population is much higher. This refugee burden is the leading cause of social dysfunction in America, something that did not exist after World War II (Failed schools, high crime, urban decay, overcrowded hospitals, housing shortages, and large deficits, etc.). As an example, hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia are completely taking over the once great State of Minnesota. Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for “prey” as our wonderful people stay locked in their apartments and houses hoping against hope that they will be left alone. The seriously retarded Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, does nothing, either through fear, incompetence, or both, while the worst “Congressman/woman” in our Country, Ilhan Omar, always wrapped in her swaddling hijab, and who probably came into the U.S.A. illegally in that you are not allowed to marry your brother, does nothing but hatefully complain about our Country, its Constitution, and how “badly” she is treated, when her place of origin is a decadent, backward, and crime ridden nation, which is essentially not even a country for lack of Government, Military, Police, schools, etc. Even as we have progressed technologically, Immigration Policy has eroded those gains and living conditions for many. I will permanently pause migration from all Third World Countries to allow the U.S. system to fully recover, terminate all of the millions of Biden illegal admissions, including those signed by Sleepy Joe Biden’s Autopen, and remove anyone who is not a net asset to the United States, or is incapable of loving our Country, end all Federal benefits and subsidies to noncitizens of our Country, denaturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquility, and deport any Foreign National who is a public charge, security risk, or non-compatible with Western Civilization. These goals will be pursued with the aim of achieving a major reduction in illegal and disruptive populations, including those admitted through an unauthorized and illegal Autopen approval process. Only REVERSE MIGRATION can fully cure this situation. Other than that, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL, except those that hate, steal, murder, and destroy everything that America stands for — You won’t be here for long! "
squeeze, let's just say the American immigration system legal or otherwise has been very different than Canada's. Trump always brings too much bluster but that does change the need for re-assessing and re-examining our immigration system.

Most Americans were very unhappy with Biden's immigration policies. The good news for Democrats is that Americans easily forget.

Seriously, you need to look at the challenge almost all Western nations face with immigration. Moving forward, I don't see the big need for unskilled labor in our nations. You just have to take in everything around us to try to have perspective.
 

squeezer

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squeeze, let's just say the American immigration system legal or otherwise has been very different than Canada's. Trump always brings too much bluster but that does change the need for re-assessing and re-examining our immigration system.

Most Americans were very unhappy with Biden's immigration policies. The good news for Democrats is that Americans easily forget.

Seriously, you need to look at the challenge almost all Western nations face with immigration. Moving forward, I don't see the big need for unskilled labor in our nations. You just have to take in everything around us to try to have perspective.
Your preztelling skills are top-notch, and if a Terbie Preztel Award were available, I would nominate you and give you my vote!

Onto the midterms, where I am predicting a BLUE TSUNAMI and part of this is because of Trump's ridiculous immigration policies going after law-abiding citizens who have actually contributed to the economy instead of just criminals. Along with affordability. It really doesn't look good to furnish the White House with gold, build a new wing probably all lined in gold, while the majority of the population struggles to buy groceries because the orange 🤡 broke his promise but what do I know. ;)
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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squeeze, let's just say the American immigration system legal or otherwise has been very different than Canada's. Trump always brings too much bluster but that does change the need for re-assessing and re-examining our immigration system.

Most Americans were very unhappy with Biden's immigration policies. The good news for Democrats is that Americans easily forget.

Seriously, you need to look at the challenge almost all Western nations face with immigration. Moving forward, I don't see the big need for unskilled labor in our nations. You just have to take in everything around us to try to have perspective.
This tells a different story:
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squeezer

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Trump's immigration policies are awesome, yup. LMAO

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WyattEarp

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Your preztelling skills are top-notch, and if a Terbie Preztel Award were available, I would nominate you and give you my vote!

Onto the midterms, where I am predicting a BLUE TSUNAMI and part of this is because of Trump's ridiculous immigration policies going after law-abiding citizens who have actually contributed to the economy instead of just criminals. Along with affordability. It really doesn't look good to furnish the White House with gold, build a new wing probably all lined in gold, while the majority of the population struggles to buy groceries because the orange 🤡 broke his promise but what do I know. ;)
squeeze, you live in a bubble. I fear you are suffering from cognitive dissonance. Just because information and different opinions do not conform to your belief system does not make them pretzeling.

Predicting a Democratic victory in next year's midterms is a silly, self-satisfying exercise. It's like predicting the Maple Leafs won't win the Cup or get this predicting that the U.S. will have a future recession. Guess what Canada will have a future recession.

No offense, but you are far too gullible for media manipulation. The American voters who matter do not care about Trump's strict immigration policies. The people you see protesting on TV are representative of perhaps 20% of the most liberal voters in the country. They have never voted for a Republican and never will.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The true "DEI" administration.
A fascist kakistocracy. lmfao.
Keystone Kash Tantrum Exposed in Bombshell Dossier on His ‘F***ed Up’ FBI

President Donald Trump’s embattled FBI Director Kash Patel has received a scathing assessment of his first six months in office from some of his own employees.
A report prepared by a group of active-duty and retired agents and analysts blasted his leadership as “dismal” and warned that the FBI has become “all f---ed up” and a “rudderless ship” under his guidance.

Sources described Patel in particular as insecure and “in over his head” with “neither the breadth of experience nor the bearing an FBI director needs to be successful.”

The report, which comes just days after Trump was forced to deny rumors that he’s planning to fire Patel, calls the FBI director out for undermining the investigation into right-wing activist Charlie Kirk’s killing by sharing too much information too soon, and losing it during a Senate committee hearing in September.

Patel is described by sources as fixated on his personal image, in one case allegedly ordering polygraph tests in a bid to root out FBI personnel who had criticized him.

An even more embarrassing scene is described in Utah in the aftermath of Kirk’s killing, when Patel is said to have refused to disembark from an FBI jet until agents hunted down a medium-sized raid jacket for him and removed their own SWAT patches to decorate his loaner jacket.
“Patel apparently did not have his own FBI raid jacket with him and refused to step from the plane without wearing one,” the report’s authors said.

Patel “did not make a positive impression” on FBI personnel during that visit, according to the dossier, which quotes one source saying both Patel and his deputy director, Dan Bongino, need to “stop talking, stop posing, and just be professional.”
They were both accused of “spending too much time on social media and public relations” and being “too often concerned with building their own personal résumés.”

Sources also described Bongino as “something of a clown” and said they strongly believed that neither Bongino nor Patel had the experience to effectively deal with top-tier threats facing the country.
 

WyattEarp

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I think you are living in a bubble.
This paints a different picture:
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First, immigration will not affect next year's midterms.
Second, you can look at 2024 polls and see very different sentiment.

Lastly, there are many issues where you will find slightly more than half Americans disagree with policies. The numbers almost always strongly follow party allegiance. As always, the big question is will it sway independent voters at the voting booth. By the way, many independents say they are independents but still have a fairly strong party preference. I don't know about Canadians, but we have Americans who like to say they are independents who actually talk smack on a policy level. So essentially they idealize being an independent but they are blowing smoke about their political identity.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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First, immigration will not affect next year's midterms.
Second, you can look at 2024 polls and see very different sentiment.

Lastly, there are many issues where you will find slightly more than half Americans disagree with policies. The numbers almost always strongly follow party allegiance.
I think it will.
Immigration, especially ICE's actions are starting to bother a lot of people.
So I think it will have an impact, although I am not sure to what extent, which remains to be seen.
Also, we are at the end of 2025, so views today have changed over the last year.
And yes, the numbers do follow party allegiance, but the polls show that the majority of Americans, accounting for party allegiance are starting to feel negatively about Trump's immigration policies.
 

squeezer

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squeeze, you live in a bubble. I fear you are suffering from cognitive dissonance. Just because information and different opinions do not conform to your belief system does not make them pretzeling.

Predicting a Democratic victory in next year's midterms is a silly, self-satisfying exercise. It's like predicting the Maple Leafs won't win the Cup or get this predicting that the U.S. will have a future recession. Guess what Canada will have a future recession.

No offense, but you are far too gullible for media manipulation. The American voters who matter do not care about Trump's strict immigration policies. The people you see protesting on TV are representative of perhaps 20% of the most liberal voters in the country. They have never voted for a Republican and never will.
I don't know, I believe it is you speaking to me from inside a Trump MAGA gullibility bubble. The Republicans have so far been getting creamed in elections by the mighty blue (leaf color, btw).

And now Trump is floating the idea of $2,000 checks before the midterms. Gee, I wonder why. It’s the oldest trick in the book. Why is that? Instead of taxing his electorate through tariffs and then playing the 'give a little back' game in hopes of buying some votes? But here’s the hilarious part: if the (very conservative) Supreme Court suddenly decides tariffs are unconstitutional and that the money collected has to be refunded, where exactly is he pulling billions in refund cash from? Waving a magic wand? Digging under the couch cushions at Mar-a-Lago?

Wyatt, I keep throwing reality at you, you come back with "you're silly," "you're gullible," "you're suffering cognitive dissonance." Odd, since you seem to always jump up and down if the same is done to you. Hmmmmmm, that's ok, I have a thick skin and I'm good at spitting out the facts.
 

Frankfooter

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squeeze, let's just say the American immigration system legal or otherwise has been very different than Canada's. Trump always brings too much bluster but that does change the need for re-assessing and re-examining our immigration system.

Most Americans were very unhappy with Biden's immigration policies. The good news for Democrats is that Americans easily forget.

Seriously, you need to look at the challenge almost all Western nations face with immigration. Moving forward, I don't see the big need for unskilled labor in our nations. You just have to take in everything around us to try to have perspective.
Its all going exactly as planned

 

squeezer

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@WyattEarp I know, I know it's only CNN and of course you are going to say it's only fake news but again we can agree to disagree

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The Oracle

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I don't know, I believe it is you speaking to me from inside a Trump MAGA gullibility bubble. The Republicans have so far been getting creamed in elections by the mighty blue (leaf color, btw).

And now Trump is floating the idea of $2,000 checks before the midterms. Gee, I wonder why. It’s the oldest trick in the book. Why is that? Instead of taxing his electorate through tariffs and then playing the 'give a little back' game in hopes of buying some votes? But here’s the hilarious part: if the (very conservative) Supreme Court suddenly decides tariffs are unconstitutional and that the money collected has to be refunded, where exactly is he pulling billions in refund cash from? Waving a magic wand? Digging under the couch cushions at Mar-a-Lago?

Wyatt, I keep throwing reality at you, you come back with "you're silly," "you're gullible," "you're suffering cognitive dissonance." Odd, since you seem to always jump up and down if the same is done to you. Hmmmmmm, that's ok, I have a thick skin and I'm good at spitting out the facts.
Well at least this poster didn't ingratiate us with a video that he never watched this time.

I suppose that's a step in the right direction...
 
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