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Cobster

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When does it get charged to your credit card?
I got the email on the 12th, that a purchase was made on the 10th.
I'm looking at my online statement but don't see a debit purchase for it...?
 

Cobster

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blah, fuck, thought i had a freebie goin' :p
 

Cobster

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Laptop, and the battery codes were between 2004 and May this year.
I'm safe, plus my contact is in Dell's Toronto office and it's a chicky.
Not some guy in India named "Bob". :p
 

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What you don't seem to see that the problem with using these cheap batteries is not just that your notebook can catch fire or you burn your desk, coffee table, or leg but that heat shortens the life of computers. Dell doesn't what you to be able to service or upgrade your computer. they only wan't you to keep buying new ones.
 

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cdog said:
What you don't seem to see that the problem with using these cheap batteries is .......... that heat shortens the life of computers.
OK so now Deal claims they stopped using these cheap SONY batteries of which SONY is sharing responsiblity for warranty replacement costs along with Dell.

Now on that heat issue.
Dell uses Pentium chips.
Are the AMD chips any better heat-wise?

Which one handles the heat issue better on both laptops and desktops, Intel or AMD?
 

MojoRisin'

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Cobster said:
I'm safe, plus my contact is in Dell's Toronto office and it's a chicky.
Not some guy in India named "Bob". :p

and suddenly you trust a chick NOT to fuck you around? lmao, dude come on...lol
 

Cobster

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She cut me some slack a year ago on my monitor, so no complaints from me. ;)
 

Cobster

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that's harsh...:eek:
 

Cobster

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...true...:p !
 

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AMD produces a lot of heat. My notebook(too heavy and hot to be called a laptop) has an air intake and 4 fans. The new generation of Intel is considered to be much faster and cooler than the high-end AMD's.

x^
 

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How do you check for heat in a laptop, via the CPU?
I mean, I thought the only heat you can feel at the bottom was coming from the battery.
Intel's coming hard at AMD because of the market chunk they stole from Intel the past few years (mainly in N.America).
Still love my AMD X2 3800 dual core in my desktop, so damn fast.
 

chuck007

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xdog said:
AMD produces a lot of heat. My notebook(too heavy and hot to be called a laptop) has an air intake and 4 fans. The new generation of Intel is considered to be much faster and cooler than the high-end AMD's.

x^
That would be a first. In my 20+ years in the business, I've always found that Intel's process yielded "hot" chips (not just in performance terms). Rule of thumb: every 10 degree celcius rise in junction temperature halves the life of a chip. I've seen 3 Intel CPUs die, never once an AMD CPU. Now I grant you, this may not be a statistically significant sample (or maybe it is), but it wasn't the fans fault - they were still running OK.
 

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tomshardware.com cites the Intel Core 2 Duo (CPU only) as being spec'ed at 65 Watts (compared with 130 Watts for a Pentium D 840). Overall power consumption for their test system came in at about 213 Watts (Core 2 Duo E6700, under load; 181 Watts idle), compared with 280 (186 idle) for the AMD Athlon X2 4400+ (which is about two years older technology), or 344 Watts (232 idle) for a Pentium D 840.

Although this is a measure of power draw, not heat, the majority of this energy is dissipated as heat, much as an incandescent light bulb, so thinking in terms of "light-bulb equivalent" heat isn't an accurate measure, but gives us some idea.

And yes, the numbers say that AMD chips historically run much cooler than the equivalent Intel chipsets, since AMD's architecture is generally much better suited to the tasks being performed. It would not be unreasonable to expect AMD's next generation of chips to retake the mantle of the cooler performer.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/page3.html
 

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Cobster said:
Intel's coming hard at AMD because of the market chunk they stole from Intel the past few years (mainly in N.America).
Still love my AMD X2 3800 dual core in my desktop, so damn fast.
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processors look like the latest & greatest ....... right now.

From the Intel site:

Screams performance. Conserves power. Revolutionizes PCs. With Intel® Core™2 Duo desktop processor, you'll experience revolutionary performance, unbelievable system responsiveness, and energy-efficiency built in – up to 40% faster and over 40% more energy efficient.¹

Delivering the best overall performance. Period.
Up to 40 percent faster than previous generation desktop processors¹ the Intel Core 2 Duo desktop processor provides unrivaled performance for all your desktop computing needs. With the latest arsenal of performance-rich technologies, including up to 4MB of shared L2 cache, and up to 1066 MHz Front Side Bus, you've got the future of computing now, and only from Intel:

Multitask with reckless abandon.
Do more at the same time, like playing your favorite music, running virus scan in the background, and all while you edit video or pictures. The powerful Intel Core 2 Duo desktop processor PCs provides you with the speed you need to perform any and all tasks imaginable.
 

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...like I said, still love my AMD.
 
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