Disappearing threads

[dreamer]

I was following a thread on Dave the Webguy at http://dcww.ca/ about his lack of service and it disappeared. (started by jenna)

I was thinking about using him for a project but the thread changed my mind.

 

[Berlin]

so it was there..

I wasn't dreaming then.

 

[Fred Zed]

There are 2 sides to every story - I will put the thread back as soon as I hear back from Dave. I have sent him a copy of the post.

 

[Sardonicus]

I've known him to be a pretty stand-up guy. If something appears out of character or amiss, it very well could be due to something that is beyond his immediate control.

Life has a tendency to throw us curve balls every now and then. Let's give him a little respect and the opportunity to come clean with his clients before making rash assumptions about the guy, not that it would really be any of our business unless of course you were looking to hire him. Which is all the more reason to give the guy a fair shake in the off-chance that it was an honest error.

Miscues in communication have a habit of sending people off into orbit at the worst of times. It's human nature. That said, I'm sure there's an explanation for all this. Although, as much as I love gossip, whether it appeases those on the receiving end or not I believe it is best kept bewteen the respective parties until the jury comes in.

 

[1st down]

Re: so it was there..

I wasn't dreaming then.

nope. there are many of them here. or there were

 

[Sardonicus]

Getting dicked around isn't cool on any level. I sympathize with those who are out of pocket in this case.

Jenna? I've spoken with Jesterz and we both have agreed to waive 6 months of hosting for you and your friend to help make it a little less painful in the financial end of things.

Your site has been spidered and there are no anticipated complications that we forsee on that note. Your friend's situation is a little more complicated but we have a solution. Ask this person to call or e-mail Jes and he'll explain.

With regards to Terb, I'm not so sure if that's entirely true regarding the protection accorded to those who advertise here. I've had my share of flames and attacks without seeing Terb come running to the rescue *lol*. And I've got A LOT of banners here.

 

[Sardonicus]

So did Jes.

 

[joebear]

why dont you spell it out in the contract that you have to be provided the code and images for the website ?

unless there are copyright issues but those issues can be easily contracted for.

always get it in writing even with friends.

 

[xarir]

I was following a thread on Dave the Webguy at http://dcww.ca/ about his lack of service and it disappeared.

The thread still exists. It`s just been banished to The Deleted Threads Repository.

 

[Fred Zed]

But me thinks that being a paid advertiser in this case has help Dave against threads like these.

By all means delete this post if you like, but I am just saying what I have noticed.

Kiarra

Dave is a not a paid advertiser. His banner is here as a service to our clients but he is not a paid advertiser. I already said that we are aware problems and we doing our best to get hold of him.

 

[jwmorrice]

I remember him as a poster on GTAC and he seemed a knowledgeable and okay guy. But didn't even tbill end up having a site problem with Dave?

jwm

 

[Sardonicus]

I don't think it's a matter of credibility Kiarra. You are well respected wthin the community. The problem I see is this: We're both webmasters and for us to criticise a colleague's work or work ethics personally IMO is a subject best to avoid.

Regardless of how right we may be in our assessment, to those on the periphery, it could easily be mistaken as an opportunistic power play. This is why I think it's best for the respective parties to deal with the situation as they see fit.

I understand your concern and compassion towards those on the receiving end of this bum deal. I feel it too.

I believe the best way to deal with this situation is via a proactive approach: Educate all potential clients. End of story. Your last post explains this rather clearly to those seeking a website. Perhaps a webmaster resource section would be a good idea for Terb to put up. I'm considering it for TBP.

You have also given me another idea. I don't have an FAQ on my site that explains typically asked questions with regards to site ownership, FTP access, etc. I cover that particular ground when I meet with any potential clientele. I will have one now though.

 

[Fred Zed]

Forget I asked, in know the answer and be the time you find out his side this thread will be long dead.


Kiarra

All I said was you are arguing from wrong assumptions. We are just as aware of the problem as you you are. The Mods have already been advised to refer clients to other designers. Don't forget that Dave has also done some excellent work in adult entertainment over the years. A couple of years ago he hosted and maintained this site for a very resonable fee. He even designed all the software that TERB was running on at the time. I also know many ladies whom Dave has helped for next to nothing.

 

[Fred Zed]

You assumed that I didn’t know what was going on, you assumed I was working on assumptions not fact. The only thing I assumed was that he was a paid advertiser, I didn’t think TERB was in the habit of making some pay and others get banners for free. That was a wrong assumption on my part and one I will not make again, I can promise you that.

Kiarra

Now how did I "push your buttons" ? Are you having a bad day ? I merely answered your questions. Dave and TERB had a partnership of sorts. In exchange for doing some work for our clients he was offered advertising on TERB. But he was not a PAID advertiser as you stated. Ofcourse sometimes partnerships don't work as planned. But I already said we are addressing that.

 

[Fred Zed]

I hear you paul. That's why I never sleep with my clients
If I did I would not be able to pay for the site.

 

[Fred Zed]

Not a bad day, just hate when people try to cover the truth for their own personal gain. Kiarra

The truth was never covered - I said "we are aware of the problem and we are addressing it. "

 

[Goober Mcfly]

I hear you paul. That's why I never sleep with my clients
If I did I would not be able to pay for the site.

I'll sleep with some of TERB's clients.

No, not you Paul...

 

[Goober Mcfly]

Hey! What the moderators do with each other in their spare time is THEIR business!

Fred, did you dry-clean the french maid outfit?

 

[Mr. K]

Paul,

Excellent analysis of a sorry situation. As we've discussed before, business IS business, play is play. If you are truly in business than you keep the two separate.

 

[Fred Zed]

When you start deleting threads to get the" other side of the story" but admit to reffering people to other webdesingers and yet still keeping his banner here, what do you call that, I call it cover up.Kiarra

The thread was never deleted it was saved, somewhere else .
I said I would put it back if and when Dave chose to respond to it.
Have you considered the fact his services were contracted for a certain period of time. Ofcourse I will take the banner down once I have heard back from him. My goodness, don't you think you've chewed this one to death ?