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Do Genocide & Holocaust Studies Have Any Future Now That Israel is Committing Genocide

Klatuu

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You refuse to accept that HRW report at the same time that you say we must accept all those reports.

This is why you are not respected.
Does that mean you accept HRW‘s conclusion that Israel is committing genocide? Otherwise, what credibility do you have on your soapbox? Why are you asking anyone to do what you are not willing to do?
 
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Israel Brand is Rock Bottom

Only stone cold morons champion POS Nation. Everyone else sees it for what it is….a nation of freeloaders that always have their hands out, commit incessant theft, ethnic cleansing and genocide. They represent nothing that anyone admires. A nation of blowhards that constantly needs to be bailed out.

Also sprach Chat GazaPalestinianTerrorists! This is one hard-working A(lack of)I!
 

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Wrong again.
I accept the HRW report, they did what they were supposed to do, record evidence.
The problem with that report is that Israel lied and just made shit up to demonize Palestinians.
So you clearly DO NOT accept that HRW report at face value even though you've repeatedly said we must believe all of their reports. Your doublespeak does not disguise you're hypocrisy.
 

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So you clearly DO NOT accept that HRW report at face value even though you've repeatedly said we must believe all of their reports. Your doublespeak does not disguise you're hypocrisy.
Embarrassing deflection
 

Frankfooter

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wife beater defense....
Every accusation....

The IDF is reporting that they did most of the killing on Oct 7. Hamas was out to take prisoners for exchanges but Israel went and dropped 1,000 bombs on Israelis and Hamas to try to stop them. The Hannibal Doctrine meant they'd rather kill Israelis rather than let them be taken hostage.

 
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So you clearly DO NOT accept that HRW report at face value even though you've repeatedly said we must believe all of their reports. Your doublespeak does not disguise you're hypocrisy.
You have no credibility, shack. You refuse every single HRW and Amnesty report except for this one report.
Its the most idiotic line of argument you've pushed here.

You cling to this one report as if its your life jacket without knowing its filled with bricks.


 

shack

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You have no credibility, shack. You refuse every single HRW and Amnesty report except for this one report.
Irrelevant. It was YOU who declared multiple times that HRW is one of the most reliable agencies and we must ALWAYS listen them. Yet you refuse to accept the contents of this report from them. Shame on you.

October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch

Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.
 

Frankfooter

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Irrelevant. It was YOU who declared multiple times that HRW is one of the most reliable agencies and we must ALWAYS listen them. Yet you refuse to accept the contents of this report from them. Shame on you.

October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch

Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.
But I don't, shack, as I keep saying.
The HRW did what they should, they took what Israel told them and reported it.

Its Israel that lied their faces off and submitting lies to HRW damages Israel, not HRW.

Why do you keep clinging to this idiotic line of argument?
Is this your last hope that you can declare the reports support your genocide?

Zionism is a terrorist, racial supremacist movement.
You back the philosophy of Meir Kahane, recognized by Canada as a terrorist.

This is terrorism


 
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Denial didn't work at Nuremburg.
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So why do you keep doing it? I gave you direct quotes from the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnesty, and HRW and all of them directly from their official documents but you still need to lie about it.

You have repeatedly argued that Hamas NEEDS to keep hostages even though all of your own sources unambiguously say how illegal that is. You are just pathetically pushing any propaganda you think makes Israel look bad.

All of those groups were unambiguous and did not tie their demand that hamas immediately and unconditionally release the hostages to anything.

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I support taking all of those reports, along with all other reports and backing all charges by the ICJ, ICC and UN resolutions.
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So why do you keep saying that the ICC allegations are false?
 

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But I don't, shack, as I keep saying.
The HRW did what they should, they took what Israel told them and reported it.

Its Israel that lied their faces off and submitting lies to HRW damages Israel, not HRW.
Your declarations never had any qualifiers. "We must listen to what HRW says."

And somehow Israel could fool HRW but not you. You know more and are smarter than HRW? LOL.
 

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Your declarations never had any qualifiers. "We must listen to what HRW says."

And somehow Israel could fool HRW but not you. You know more and are smarter than HRW? LOL.
Feeble
 
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So why do you keep doing it? I gave you direct quotes from the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnesty, and HRW and all of them directly from their official documents but you still need to lie about it.
Until you support the arrest of Netanyahu and Israeli officials for war crimes and extermination, as charged by the ICC, your arguments are fucking insane.
Claiming the law only applies to Hamas is idiotic.

If you back the law and the ICC, ICJ, Amnesty et al, you must support arresting Netanyahu and putting him on trial.

All else is hasbara trolling.

 

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Until you support the arrest of ...
You are such a joke if you think it makes sense to say the ICC is wrong in their charges against hamas leadership but need to be listened to with charges against netanyahu.

And I've been clear in my criticisms of the ICC and I'll even state criticism with their charges against Putin (which you never care about enforcement for either). But you are the one with the racist double standard of the ICC being both incompetent and authoritative depending on who they're charging.
 

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So you're saying you think ...
I think you are idiotically using obviously bullshit propaganda simply because you hate israel.

As I said, bots were promoting the same pics last year and despite the pic clearly showing labelled fuses with only the most superficial resemblance to food, you happily post the lies without even pretending to care about the truth behind it. It is just like the tweets you posted a while back claiming that all sorts of Israelis had high positions in the Biden administration which was just racist claims that American jews are really Israelis. Just like your idol King Don and his blind zealots, you think Truth is irrelevant when compared to whatever "good story" some twitter rando posts.
 

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And I've been clear in my criticisms of the ICC
Exactly.

You don't support the ICC and will not ever support both sides being held to the law equally.
Just as you will never support giving Palestinians equal rights, or Israel being held to honour any UN resolutions.

You back a pariah state committing genocide.
A crime that has been charged only to the most heinous people in history.

 
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