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Do you save enough to retire?

Do you save enough to retire?

  • I hardly save anything

    Votes: 26 34.2%
  • I save enough to live, but not live like I do today

    Votes: 9 11.8%
  • I save enough to live, but not including spending on sex

    Votes: 5 6.6%
  • I save enough to live, including spending on sex

    Votes: 22 28.9%
  • I've already retired, or got enough saved to retire

    Votes: 14 18.4%

  • Total voters
    76

fuji

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Just wondering whether the average person here saves significantly for their retirement, or whether it all goes into the retirement savings of SP's, strippers, and MPA's :)

It would be foolish for anyone here to post their net worth or income. All I'm really asking is do you think you will have enough saved away to sustain your current standard of living when you retire?

Does that retirement plan include a budget for what you spend on sex?
 

JoyfulC

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fuji said:
Just wondering whether the average person here saves significantly for their retirement, or whether it all goes into the retirement savings of SP's, strippers, and MPA's :)
You think most SPs, strippers and MPAs have "retirement" savings?

You've been reading too many articles in Cosmopolitan.

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raven@mirage

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I have my RRSP account I put in something every month regardless of what else is going on with my expenses or spending habits along with my emergency account.

Anything can happen and you can not predict the future ... NO ONE CAN

With watching Suze Orman every weekend and reading her books along with other female financial advisors. with your money you fail to plan you really do plan to fail.
 

lickrolaine

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It would be foolish for anyone here to post their net worth or income.
networth should not be factored into the equation.house and property should be removed for calculation of retirement needs.

http://www.torontosun.com/Money/2007/01/14/3362262-sun.html

How many times have you heard this line from a Barenaked Ladies song: "If I had a million dollars."

And if we did -- we'd retire. Right?

Well, guess what? You don't need a million dollars, according to David Trahair, who wrote the book, Smoke And Mirrors: Financial Myths That Will Ruin Your Retirement Dreams.
 

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So far the poll is showing about 50% of you guys aren't saving enough to keep up the life you live now.

Joyful: Some SP's do have retirement savings. Given the amount of money SP's see in their lives ALL should; however, many just piss it all away.
 

fuji

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lickrolaine said:
networth should not be factored into the equation.house and property should be removed for calculation of retirement needs.
That depends. I agree with his point--estimate your retirement needs by adding up all your expenses. He excludes housing costs from your expenses by assuming you have a paid off mortgage. I agree with him about the value of paying off all your debt, including mortgage, but I prefer to include the value of my home in my net worth and then add an expense for rent when working out my retirement needs.

I'd probably sell my home to enable me to move around and live in a few different cities during my retirement. Also, my current home is much more expensive than what I'd need in retirement--I live where I do now so that I can be close to work. No such need in retirement, so I could move to a cheaper location. Many people also live in large family homes now and could get by in a much smaller, cheaper condo in retirement. Therefore, I think it does make more sense to include the value of your home in your savings and include a cost for expected rent, for most Canadians. Certainly it makes sense in my situation.

But I agree with his overall idea--you should know what your expenses are going to be, and use that knowledge as the basis for knowing how much savings you need, not use some "70% of income" rule of thumb.
 

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lickrolaine said:
Well, guess what? You don't need a million dollars, according to David Trahair, who wrote the book, Smoke And Mirrors: Financial Myths That Will Ruin Your Retirement Dreams.
I'll give the book a look. But other books that are good, because they also change your mind set about finances that I would recomend:

1. Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
2. The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley/William Danko
 

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JoyfulC

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What most SPs (or most people, for that matter) should do and what they actually do are two different things.

I've known plenty of SPs in my life, and few were putting anything away for their retirements. Most aren't even holding to a budget that would allow them some degree of dignity when the going gets rough.

Sure, sure, there's the old story about saving for a sibling's kidney transplant. And the myths about the tragically beautiful but tragically lonely SPs who retire and buy a man-made island in the Dubai archipelagos, but the fact is most SPs are poor budgeters, living pretty much hand to mouth and stumbling from one impluse buy to the next. I'm sorry to say that -- really! I've been asked for advice many times over the years, but most SPs don't seem to like the advice I have to give, which is get a realistic bead on what you're making, set up a budget and live within your means. All of us have days when we make more money than we can imagine, but all of us have days on end when we make nothing at all and weeks/months where we make far less than we hoped to, as well.

Dignity is about not having to do anything out of desperation. Prudent budgeting is the key to that.

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The reality is that over 90% of the population lives paycheck to paycheck and of the remaining 10% most aren't SERIOUSLY interested in their retirement future until their parents start to become seniors or worse die/dying.
 

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to-guy69 said:
The reality is that over 90% of the population lives paycheck to paycheck and of the remaining 10% most aren't SERIOUSLY interested in their retirement future until their parents start to become seniors or worse die/dying.
Well terbites are doing better than average then, since 33% claim to have saved enough to retire incl. sex; of course there's just as many who are going to be scratching dirt since they're saving nothing.
 

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Larger penises? I think there might be some actual truth to that because I've noticed that Canadians do tend to be, on average, larger than Americans and Europeans. (And here y'all thought I came here for the universal health care! ;) )

The thing that's really scary, I find, is credit and how the poorest people tend to pay the highest interest rates. The credit companies can argue that's because they're a higher risk -- but then, if that's the case, why give them credit at all? It seems like a flimsy excuse to prey upon those most vulnerable. A few years back, a woman on family assistance, also working as an escort, asked my husband and I for some advice (which of course she didn't take). She pretty much bared her situation to us, and we were floored by the interest rates she was paying. There's absolutely no way she could get out of debt, even if she tried, short of winning a lottery. Every time she worked, she went shopping or to the casino. This seemed very wrong-minded to us, but on the other hand, we really couldn't see any way to tell her how she could do things differently and get out of debt and out from under huge accruing interest.

Did anyone here see the article in yesterday's Star, Mom struggles on $1,008 a month (http://www.thestar.com/article/171169). On the one hand, you feel bad for the mother, and the numbers are daunting, but then there's the photo. Here's a woman who claims she can't afford to send her kid to a movie or let him play sports because she's so broke... but she's wearing make-up, jewelry, reasonably nice clothing, and her hair is died in some crazy scheme. Also, the photo is supposedly shot in her apartment, but in the background, through a reflection in the mirror, you can see someone sitting at a desk with a computer and a speaker. It looks like this person is surfing the web.

Now, I'm not for a minute disputing that it would be tough to get by on the type of money she gets, but myself, I'm self-employed, and although we're a 2-income family, we need my income to get by. I know what I have to forego to be financially responsible.

It isn't politically correct to say, but perhaps a key factors in poverty really are decision making skills and self discipline. And it's getting harder all the time, as we're bombarded on every side with consumerism to the point where spending oneself into debt on credit seems like a normal, rational thing to do. In the US, they want people to save for their retirement, save for their healthcare, save for their homes, save for their kids' education, and still go out and buy, buy, buy like good and patriotic little consumers. For the majority of the population, that simply cannot work.

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1HandInMyPocket said:
I'll give the book a look. But other books that are good, because they also change your mind set about finances that I would recomend:

1. Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
2. The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley/William Danko
Don't forget about "The Automatic Millionaire" by David Bach.
 
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