Does a union have to strike when members vote down a contract?
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No,
A no vote from the membership just means that the offer was unacceptable as it stands
The neg. Committee must now go back to the table and say pony up a better offer.
A strike vote would have been held prior to the this final offer though...authorizing the neg. Committee to walk away and declare a strike ( usually just a scare tactic). IF the offer was rediculous.
Mgnmt will say...this is the best you're gonna get so take it to a vote.
The neg. Committee with either recommend to accept or reject...then the membership votes
50%+1 done deal....rejection will trigger either moderation or notice of strike usually 30 days...but neg.can still go on
Members cannot just arbitrarily walk off the job if its rejected there would be sanctin from the company and the union upto and including being removed from the union membership and termination by the company
A no vote from the membership just means that the offer was unacceptable as it stands
The neg. Committee must now go back to the table and say pony up a better offer.
A strike vote would have been held prior to the this final offer though...authorizing the neg. Committee to walk away and declare a strike ( usually just a scare tactic). IF the offer was rediculous.
Mgnmt will say...this is the best you're gonna get so take it to a vote.
The neg. Committee with either recommend to accept or reject...then the membership votes
50%+1 done deal....rejection will trigger either moderation or notice of strike usually 30 days...but neg.can still go on
Members cannot just arbitrarily walk off the job if its rejected there would be sanctin from the company and the union upto and including being removed from the union membership and termination by the company
Not necessarily. There are hoops to jump through, a process to follow to be in a legal strike position.
The info within this link should answer most, if not all, of your questions:
https://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/lr/faqs/lr_faq3.php#when
The info within this link should answer most, if not all, of your questions:
https://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/lr/faqs/lr_faq3.php#when
the union board has to call for walk off if i read u correctly
so why did 113 walk off at midnite a few years ago shutting down public transit?
they knew parliment would convene and send them to arbitration so why did not the board of 113 just agree to arbitration with no strike or agree to further negotiation with the city?
There was no outstanding issue as the union board had recommended ratification
I am trying to write a short story on what happened for creative writing class but WALKING OFF MAKES NO SENSE
I am going to make President Kinnear look like a hero trying to stop the walkout as he realizes it will destroy the union as they will be declared essential and then will be privatized which is what is happening
i will make the other board members look like dropouts that kinnear cannot lead because they are unreasonable goofs
kinnear says on you tube interviews they walked at midnite, instead of walking after giving public notice, because of threats to drivers but by declaring they will not walk off would have terminated the threat
so why did 113 walk off at midnite a few years ago shutting down public transit?
they knew parliment would convene and send them to arbitration so why did not the board of 113 just agree to arbitration with no strike or agree to further negotiation with the city?
There was no outstanding issue as the union board had recommended ratification
I am trying to write a short story on what happened for creative writing class but WALKING OFF MAKES NO SENSE
I am going to make President Kinnear look like a hero trying to stop the walkout as he realizes it will destroy the union as they will be declared essential and then will be privatized which is what is happening
i will make the other board members look like dropouts that kinnear cannot lead because they are unreasonable goofs
kinnear says on you tube interviews they walked at midnite, instead of walking after giving public notice, because of threats to drivers but by declaring they will not walk off would have terminated the threat
yes but does not the union board always have the power to continue negotiation without a strike even if the members have voted strike?I can't recall the specifics but for them to walk off the job legally, the no board would have to have been issued already.
Unions can continue to talk right up to the midnight deadline or whenever.yes but does not the union board always have the power to continue negotiation without a strike even if the members have voted strike?
However I the union voted TO strike and the time has passed...then legally they can walk but uni9n can ask that the members continue to work if a deal is close ...or as a sign that they dont want to walk even though they can..but depending on the situation 48-72 hrs would be given if the membership di walk
Hardens back to the old problem of "Essential Services" and should they be ALLOWED to strike!yes but does not the union board always have the power to continue negotiation without a strike even if the members have voted strike?
Anyways, it seems to me that the TTC strike was a very stupid move done by incompetent board members
They had nothing to gain and everything to lose and they are losing it as TTC has started to privatize
Before they would not have dared to privatize as the union had the threat of a strike now why not privatize?
They had nothing to gain and everything to lose and they are losing it as TTC has started to privatize
Before they would not have dared to privatize as the union had the threat of a strike now why not privatize?
The union has to declare a strike, but that doesn't mean in contentious negotiations that workers don't take it upon themselves to walk off early. And just because you vote down a contract offer doesn't mean you must go on strike either. We had a negotiation 5 or so years ago that when we got the contract info in the mail, the letter from the President of the union said "Voting no means we will authorize a strike without further negotiation with the company". So we voted it down, but only by something like a 55-45 margin. We didn't strike, the union went back and negotiated some more, and we accepted that next deal.
A strike vote is quite often done to give the union the mandate to call a strike if negotiations are going nowhere. But usually, even if that vote is done, a "final offer" is made, and is voted on before a strike happens. It's very rare that a strike happens without a "final offer". But sometimes, as in the case of my employer when we first unionized 25 years ago, negotiations were going nowhere, so we had workers at a large facility walk off the job for a couple hours to get the company's attention, and they fairly quickly started negotiating seriously.
A strike vote is quite often done to give the union the mandate to call a strike if negotiations are going nowhere. But usually, even if that vote is done, a "final offer" is made, and is voted on before a strike happens. It's very rare that a strike happens without a "final offer". But sometimes, as in the case of my employer when we first unionized 25 years ago, negotiations were going nowhere, so we had workers at a large facility walk off the job for a couple hours to get the company's attention, and they fairly quickly started negotiating seriously.
